Ordered my first suppressors today.


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1858
September 24, 2013, 08:42 PM
I've shot a bunch of suppressed rifles and pistols over the past few years and finally decided that I should own some suppressors myself. I ordered the following from AAC today to be used on the rifles/pistols listed:

TiTAN-QD (AI AWM in .338 LM)
MK13-SD (AI AW in .308 Win, AI AWM in .300 WM and POF in .308 Win)
M4-2000 (POF P415)
Ti-RANT .45 (SIG P220 Combat TB)

I'll need to order five flash hiders/muzzle brakes from AAC as well. Now for the wait.

:D

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Arizona_Mike
September 24, 2013, 10:32 PM
Nice, see you in two years or so, hopefully not much more :(

Mike

TIMC
September 24, 2013, 10:42 PM
Nice, I hope I'm still around for the range report!

1858
September 24, 2013, 10:53 PM
:D I know I'm in for a long wait but that's ok. Probably the worst part is that I had to pay for all four suppressors up front even though some are back ordered and it'll be many, many months until I can use them. This is all new to me but it's my understanding that AAC sends in some federal paperwork once the cans have serial numbers and they can't ship the suppressors to my FFL/SOT guy until their paperwork comes back. This step alone is taking a couple of months. Then my FFL/SOT guy sends paperwork in for me along with $200 per suppressor and this is taking 6 to 9 months. To make things more complicated, I'm moving to Montana in the next couple of months so I'll have to find an SOT up there so that my buddy can ship them up to Montana. Hopefully it'll all be worth it. At least all five muzzle brakes/flash hiders that I need are in stock and ready to ship.

TIMC
September 25, 2013, 12:41 AM
Hey I feel your pain, I've been where you are now. One good thing about the long wait is you forget how painful it was to shell out all that cash to the dealer and the BATF by the time you get your cans. Lots of stuff is slow even with gun manufacturers. I have an AR-10 I put a deposit down for more than a year ago and still waiting. Seems there are too many stupid people in the world slowing everything down for the rest of us!

OARNGESI
September 25, 2013, 12:43 AM
congrats i bought a tirant45 last Thursday hopefully ill be able to play with it by may, my gemtech should be back around Christmas.

1858
September 25, 2013, 12:46 AM
My FFL/SOT guy was kind enough to let my ex-wife shoot both a suppressed and a full-auto AR-15 this weekend. Being from Hawaii she doesn't get to try this sort of thing very often, in fact, this was her first time. She had a great time though and is already looking forward to visiting me in Montana to try out my suppressors.

http://youtu.be/vnOwa7FWJn0

TIMC
September 25, 2013, 01:07 AM
I bought 4 suppressors my first time out, .45, .30, .556, and .22. I would have to say my favorite has been the SWR Spectre II .22 can. because it is just so quiet that all you hear is the action and what you are hitting. My next favorite is the .30 caliber can, I have been shooting it quite a bit too and now that I am playing with subsonic loads it is becoming more fun. The .45 and 5.56 cans are a lot of fun too but I don't play with them as much.

1858
September 25, 2013, 01:14 AM
I bought 4 suppressors my first time out, .45, .30, .556, and .22.

So I'm not crazy then!! :D I don't know if I'll buy a .22 suppressor ... I don't have a .22 rifle. I'm really looking forward to shooting my .308s and .338 with suppressors. Those are the rifles I shoot the most and would like to shoot without bothering neighbors as much.

TIMC
September 25, 2013, 01:22 AM
Oh yes your crazy, just not alone! :D

The Walther P-22 and the SWR is my favorite. I do have a couple of .22 rifles that are cool but the pistol is just awesome!

You will love the .308 and subsonic rounds. I had a world of trouble working up a good load but I finally found a load that is deadly accurate at 100 yards and as quiet as a pellet rifle.

TIMC
September 25, 2013, 01:26 AM
So your moving to Montana, gonna start a dental floss farm? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ialhaxhr7iA

Arizona_Mike
September 25, 2013, 01:32 AM
What I would do differently next time: buy from a dealer with their own range!

Mike

1858
September 25, 2013, 07:57 AM
What I would do differently next time: buy from a dealer with their own range!

It would be good to try out a number of different suppressors before buying. The dealer I'm using has 40 acres and is in the process of building a range. He doesn't have any AAC suppressors yet but I've used a couple at work so I have some idea as to the build quality and effectiveness.

Here's the ex shooting full-auto for the first time this past weekend at my dealer's place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pgbrxyeuF4

Gtscotty
September 25, 2013, 10:36 AM
Are you sending in your form 4s to have your suppressors transfered to you by a dealer in your current state, or by a dealer in montana. Just curious because when I put in the paperwork on my suppressor there was a possibility that I was going to move out of state before the forms were approved. Concerned, I called the ATF to see what I should do if I moved while my form was in process, they told me the only thing I could do was to withdraw my forms and start over once I moved..... Definitely something to consider.

1858
September 25, 2013, 12:19 PM
That's a good question. At this point I'm having them sent to my dealer here in Arkansas as they become available. He'll then send them to an SOT dealer in MT once I find one and that dealer will process the paperwork.

Telekinesis
September 25, 2013, 12:48 PM
At this point I'm having them sent to my dealer here in Arkansas as they become available. He'll then send them to an SOT dealer in MT once I find one and that dealer will process the paperwork.

That will add another form 3 transfer to your wait for each suppressor. If you know for certain that you'll be in Montana when the Form 4s are approval (almost assuredly over a year out if you're still waiting on the manufacturer to build the can) you shoul find a SOT near where you'll be moving to for the transfer instead of running it through the guy who is local now. Doing that should save you 2-3 months on a extra and unnecessary transfer.

1858
September 26, 2013, 02:18 PM
Telekinesis, thanks for the advice. My situation is a little more complicated than most so I'll probably stick with the current plan ... for the moment anyway.

I had a call from AAC today and they suggested some changes to my order based on the firearms I plan on using with the suppressors. It was suggested that I use the TiTAN-QD on all three AIs i.e. .338 LM, .300 WM and .308 Win and swap the MK13-QD for a 7.62-SDN-6 and use it on both the POF P308 and POF P415 and drop the M4-2000. This would reduce my order from four suppressors to three which would save me a bunch of money.

Arizona_Mike
September 26, 2013, 04:49 PM
It would be good to try out a number of different suppressors before buying.
Not just about trying. If the dealer has a range you can use your suppressor while it is in the dealer's possession.

Mike

1858
October 21, 2013, 05:22 PM
So I got a trust set up with a lawyer who's done a bunch of them here in Arkansas and I ended up adding a MK13-SD to the order. According to AAC they've sent in Form 3s for the Ti-RANTs and the 762-SDN-6 but the TiTAN and MK13 are a few weeks/months away due to a backlog.

1858
January 8, 2014, 05:16 PM
Two of the suppressors (Ti-RANT and 762-SDN-6) shipped from AAC to my Class 3 dealer today so it took about 15 weeks to have the Form 3s completed. Now on to the Form 4s and still waiting on Form 3s for the TiTAN-QD and MK13-SD.

Arizona_Mike
January 8, 2014, 07:50 PM
Sounds like Form 3s have gotten a little faster in the last 9-10 months. Were they paper forms?

Mike

Akita1
January 8, 2014, 09:21 PM
Congrats - the worm has definitely turned for you!

I have three Form 4s and one Form 1 with BATFE since March of last year for cans & a multi-caliber SBR lower. This stuff is expensive and paying the price to wait a year is getting old…I call them once a month just to bug them (as if that matters/helps). At least I get to go to my dealer and shoot them while we wait for the stamps - FUN!

1858
January 8, 2014, 10:38 PM
Were they paper forms?

I don't know. I would think that AAC would file electronically given the number of suppressors they make a year .... but that's just a guess.

Arizona_Mike
January 9, 2014, 03:33 PM
I don't know. I would think that AAC would file electronically given the number of suppressors they make a year .... but that's just a guess.
The Form 4 is filed by the dealer. If AAC does direct sales (acts as their own FFL) they could only do so in their home state of Georgia. I don't believe they do since they don't list themselves in their GA dealer list.

Mike

1858
January 9, 2014, 03:43 PM
Arizona_Mike,
I thought you were asking if the Form 3s were filed electronically by AAC since my Class 3 dealer hasn't submitted the Form 4s yet. The suppressors arrive at his place tomorrow and he'll submit eForms for them this weekend.

Arizona_Mike
January 9, 2014, 06:20 PM
Arizona_Mike,
I thought you were asking if the Form 3s were filed electronically by AAC since my Class 3 dealer hasn't submitted the Form 4s yet. The suppressors arrive at his place tomorrow and he'll submit eForms for them this weekend.
Nice! You should have them in less than 100 days!

I wish my dealer had done e-forms :(

Mike

1858
January 22, 2014, 05:43 PM
My Class 3 dealer now has three of the four suppressors I ordered with the last one on the UPS truck. AAC submitted the Form 3 for the MK13 on 12/30/13 and they shipped it today! That's only 23 days for the Form 3 to come back!! I hope the eForms are just as quick.

Now I'm looking for a suppressor to use with my .450 Bushmaster upper.

1858
January 26, 2014, 07:08 PM
The TiTAN (.338 LM) came in a Pelican hard case. :) All four eForms have been submitted .... tick, tock.

UPDATE: My original order and intended use changed over the last few months. Here's what I ultimately ordered and the intended use.

TiTAN-QD (http://www.advanced-armament.com/TiTAN-QD_p_416.html) and two TiTAN-QD muzzle brakes (http://www.advanced-armament.com/TiTan-QD-Muzzle-Brake_p_496.html) (AI AWM .338 LM and AI AWM .300 Win Mag)
MK13-SD (http://www.advanced-armament.com/MK13-SD_p_439.html) and one MK-13 muzzle brake (http://www.advanced-armament.com/MK13-SD-Muzzle-Brake_p_618.html) (AI AW .308 Win)
762-SDN-6 (http://www.advanced-armament.com/762-SDN-6_p_433.html) and three Blackout 51T flash hiders (http://www.advanced-armament.com/BLACKOUT-51T-Flash-Hider_p_447.html) (POF P308, POF P415 and DSA FAL PARA)
Ti-RANT .45 (http://www.advanced-armament.com/Ti-RANT-45_p_458.html) and a short Ti-RANT 45 piston (http://www.advanced-armament.com/Ti-RANT-45-Piston-_p_585.html) (SIG P220 and 1911)

http://thr.mcmxi.org/suppressors/aac/titan_qd/photos/titan_001.jpeg

donaldspark
February 1, 2014, 12:06 PM
Great choice. That is a SOLID suppressor. Ive given mine hell and its holding up great!

1858
February 4, 2014, 02:44 PM
eForm or paper? The TiTAN only took 28 days for the Form 3 ... electronic of course.

ole farmerbuck
February 4, 2014, 04:05 PM
I'm wanting to get one too, just dont know much about it.

1858
February 4, 2014, 04:18 PM
I once wanted "a" suppressor. I'm waiting on my 5th to be approved.

I know what you mean. I'm seriously considering ordering a fifth suppressor this week. It'll be a custom order since it's for a .450 Bushmaster that I put together recently. Some companies make .50 cal cans but they're typically huge and intended for the .50 BMG crowd.

I'm wanting to get one too, just dont know much about it.

There isn't much to it really and you can find everything you need to know in this NFA section. There are some very knowledgeable people here so get reading and start a thread if you have any questions. You'll get plenty of help.

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