england = simply vile


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danzig
March 24, 2004, 05:31 PM
reading earlier about the man who stabbed one of four intruders reminded me of a story i heard on the radio news a while ago. i do not have a perfect memory, so this may seem sparse, but be ensured it is true all details (i'm not sure if it made american news, i haven't been stateside in three years).

anyhow, a north yorkshire farmer awoke one night hearing noises in the house. grabbing his shotgun and going downstairs, he found two men in his lower floor. one of the burglers was hit in the back and died (however it was dark and indiscernible as to who was where) and the second was struck in the leg. the farmer's house had been broken into numerous times before; in the last of which he lost nearly $8500 worth of furniture.
when the dust settled, the farmer was given life (later reduced to five years for manslaughter), and has been refused early release by his parole boards because he shows no remorse and would still pose a threat to burglers. to top it all off, the second intruder, who received leg wounds, sued the man although he himself had over 30 criminal convictions.

i am probably preaching to the choir, but i really see a problem with a modern society where the criminal has more rights than his victims. i count the days till i return home.

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danzig
March 24, 2004, 05:56 PM
by the way, here's the BBC link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/3009769.stm

XLMiguel
March 24, 2004, 05:58 PM
Welcome to THR, Danzig. I believe you're refering to the Martin case. If you do a quick search, you'll likely find it's been discussed here a bit, but it is good to be reminded of how far the Empire has declined, and it is an object lesson on why we should never take or rights for granted.

I hope you find your time here informative and we look forward to your perspective from 'across the pond'.

TBeck
March 24, 2004, 06:11 PM
It gets even better. The State is providing funds to the injured robber so he can pursue a lawsuit against Mr. Martin. :what: :barf:

At one time I would have said the French were the most neutered society in Europe but now I have to give the nod to the British.

Ah well. Britain and Australia are giving us lots of great empirical data on the end results of the great gun control experiment. Exploding crime rates, emboldened criminals, and disheartened citizens.

entropy
March 25, 2004, 03:09 AM
The difference between the French and the English is that the State neuters the English, whereas the French neuter the State !:neener:

4570Rick
March 25, 2004, 06:19 AM
Idiots:fire:

RobW
March 25, 2004, 03:44 PM
Britain and Australia are giving us lots of great empirical data on the end results of the great gun control experiment. Exploding crime rates, emboldened criminals, and disheartened citizens.
This is EXACTLY what the "Liberals" want: disheartened citizens. To accomplish that goal, they are not ashamed to be accomplices of criminals.

illuminatus99
March 26, 2004, 06:07 AM
I'll see if I can find a link but you may want to read the whole story, the man didn't stab the robber while he was in his home, he chased him down an alley and stabbed him four times. it was also noted that what was stolen was a bag of cash, the robbery victim was a drug dealer.

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