Ruger P95 Discontinued. Last of the P Series


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weblance
October 2, 2013, 01:47 PM
The Ruger P95 has been removed from the Ruger websight, and the Ruger response is that it is no longer in production. Its was the last of the P series. Its a sad day for us Ruger fanboys

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PO2Hammer
October 2, 2013, 01:49 PM
One of the ugliest pistol ever made, but they sure do shoot nice.

Tecolote
October 2, 2013, 01:52 PM
Too bad. They were an affordable alternative to their striker fired offerings.

777funk
October 2, 2013, 02:22 PM
So I suppose that's their last auto design by Bill Ruger?

frankenstein406
October 2, 2013, 02:25 PM
I hope they don't jump in price, been wanting to try one out.

newglockguy
October 2, 2013, 02:45 PM
Ugly and too big for my hands but I shot alright with it. I prefer the SR series myself so no big loss for me

marv
October 2, 2013, 02:58 PM
After seeing the current offerings from S&W. H&K, SIG, etc. I can NOT call the Ruger P95 ugly.

Blue Brick
October 2, 2013, 03:56 PM
Sad indeed…

Kiln
October 2, 2013, 04:49 PM
Wow. I was always recommending the P95 to people who wanted a reliable gun in the $350 range. Guess I'll have to point them all towards the Tristar C series.

BSA1
October 2, 2013, 04:59 PM
The P series is dead.

The SR and SRC take the throne.

Long live the new King!

kokapelli
October 2, 2013, 06:33 PM
Ugly and too big for my hands but I shot alright with it. I prefer the SR series myself so no big loss for me
Same here, I have small hands and find the SR much better for me.

ritepath
October 2, 2013, 06:47 PM
I'll keep looking for a p90 and a 89 on the used market. RIP old friend...

TennJed
October 2, 2013, 06:50 PM
Buds has new P345s in stock. I am tempted.

Blued $450 (it was $420 last night)

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_49_75/products_id/14309/Ruger+45+BLUE+RAIL+Fixed

Stainless $477

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_49_75/products_id/12753/Ruger+KP345PR+45ACP+Fixed+Sights%2C+BlackStainless+6645

snooperman
October 2, 2013, 09:44 PM
Too bad, the Ruger P95 is a real bargain and very reliable. I have the P89, P95, and P90. All solid reliable guns that I have enjoyed shooting for many years. Like S&W and their 3rd gen guns, that I also like a great deal , I guess it is the sign of the times.

savanahsdad
October 2, 2013, 10:18 PM
Had a P-95 years ago. had it for about 1 month and then I got a deal on a P-89 (used LEO gun with 3 - 15 round mags) then sold the P95 at the next gun show , still have the P-89 and run about 300 rounds a year through it and it eats everything I feed it ,

osteodoc08
October 2, 2013, 11:27 PM
My P-89 was my first handgun. 5k+ with no malfunctions. Reliable, accurate, dependable. I'm holding onto mine forever

MedWheeler
October 2, 2013, 11:51 PM
I have one I picked up used about three months ago. I found it to shoot (from my hands) better than I thought it would. I even carry it now and then. I'm glad I got it. It is kind of sad to see the slow death of DA/SA duty-sized pistols, perhaps because it reminds me of my own age. My first agency-issued autoloader was the P-85. Qualified decently with it, but had no formal training with autoloaders (had come from a wheelgun-issuing agency), and really wasn't all the good with it.

funnelcake
October 3, 2013, 12:40 AM
IMO, really ugly are (with a couple exceptions) most new Walther's. They make the P series guns look handsome.

Funnel

weregunner
October 3, 2013, 03:37 AM
Now we have collector pieces:):rolleyes:

jim97701
October 3, 2013, 04:19 AM
I have a P89 I bought new for $269 and it is still one of my favorites, I will never let it get away. It is sad indeed to see the P series ended :(

jim243
October 3, 2013, 04:28 AM
Rest in Peace little brother.

Jim


http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/bigjim_02/IMG_1220.jpg (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/bigjim_02/media/IMG_1220.jpg.html)

JohnhenrySTL
October 3, 2013, 04:36 AM
I don't think they are ugly at all. I think they were some of best priced guns around. I never owned one, but always wanted to, and I love shooting my friends. It seems like pistols are becoming more and more about either striker action, or 1911. I like decent ordinary guns. Is Ruger replacing it with something similar or just hoping their striker action will take it over?

Deus Machina
October 3, 2013, 07:22 AM
I'd be hard pressed to find any modern arms uglier than the Ruger P series.
That said, I'd rather have a Pinto that runs 100% with a couple clogged filters and shot crank bearings, than a Ferrari that won't move if a spark plug is out of spec.
Plus, these things made useful weapons even without ammo.

JTQ
October 3, 2013, 08:29 AM
I'm not surprise to see them go. It was inevitable with the demise of the other's in the P-Series line-up.

The thing that does surprise me, is the departure of the Cam-Block used in the P-95/P-97/P-345. That seemed like such a good design, I'm surprise it wasn't carried on in any current design. Possibly, it wasn't as good as it seemed.

Blue Brick
October 3, 2013, 03:04 PM
The SR is not a Ruger design, its a Kimber design. Kimber KPD.

ColtPythonElite
October 3, 2013, 03:10 PM
They are about the only gun uglier than a Glock.

MedWheeler
October 3, 2013, 04:54 PM
JohnhenrySTL wries (in post 22):

...and I love shooting my friends.


Well, count me as not one of your friends!

This is an example of how improper punctuation can be deadly. Take the following:

"Let's eat Grandma!"

"Let's eat, Grandma"!

See the problem? :D

ritepath
October 3, 2013, 09:06 PM
http://www.securityarms.com/photos/1277833047.jpg

http://allensgunshop.com/image/cache/data/Ruger%20SR9-500x500.jpg


Interesting...I'd never heard of the KDP.

kokapelli
October 3, 2013, 09:18 PM
The profile is sure similar, but how about the internals?

Kiln
October 3, 2013, 10:03 PM
Only problem with the SR series "taking the throne" is that they're not $350 like the P95.

Looks like Ruger's days of building affordable guns at fair prices may be gone.

TennJed
October 3, 2013, 11:14 PM
Only problem with the SR series "taking the throne" is that they're not $350 like the P95.

Looks like Ruger's days of building affordable guns at fair prices may be gone.


They still make the LC9, LC380, LCP all in the p95 range. They still offer affordable guns at fair prices. They are just geared toward carry.

Kiln
October 3, 2013, 11:59 PM
Sorry I should have specified. I specifically meant their full size offerings. Not many names producing a full size $350 hi cap anymore.

Quentin
October 4, 2013, 01:23 PM
My buddy has a P89 and I can't warm up to it. To me, as far as old school goes, there's no comparison between it and my S&W 5903. Sad though that both are history now.

Omaha-BeenGlockin
October 4, 2013, 03:00 PM
I have one that's never been fired ---thinking I should just hide it away now

W.E.G.
October 4, 2013, 03:33 PM
I have one that's never been fired ---thinking I should just hide it away now

I hope you're 14 years old.

Because if you stash that gun under your bed until you're 89 you might turn a small profit on the appreciation of it.

9mmforMe
October 6, 2013, 11:27 PM
Wow...I need a moment.

Jim NE
October 7, 2013, 11:36 AM
Well, I've always liked my P-95, but it suddenly seemed clunky once I shot my SR9c for the first time. I'll certainly keep mine because it's a powerful centerfire pistol that has almost no recoil. A very good gun to have my wife and kids shoot if they ever get interested in pistols.

I really don't get the "ugly" accusations. How is the P-95 (or any other gun) NOT prettier than the weapon below? And I don't hear many people going on and on about how ugly Springfields are. (Not Springfield bashing...I care mostly how a gun works, and Springfields work good.)

tubeshooter
October 7, 2013, 11:42 AM
Never owned one, but way back when I got my first gun (a .38 special) my college friend got his first gun too - a Ruger P89.

At the time (about 20 years ago) they were widely regarded as blocky and maybe a little homely... but rock solid. I think that carried on throughout the rest of the P-series lifespan.


Truly the end of an era.

MCgunner
October 7, 2013, 03:16 PM
I had one, nice little shooter and lighter than my other P guns. I still own a KP90DC, the absolute BEST Ruger centerfire semi auto ever produced and that's a fact, Jack. If you say different, your opinion is flawed. :D I also have an un-altered P85.

I'll miss seeing the old P guns in the shops, other than used, I guess. I don't much care for dohickey triggers, though I don't know if Ruger's version is as short throw as Glock's. I really prefer a DA with decocker only, does not stay down on safe. Since Bill died, they seem to have gone less and less to the "overbuilt". The old guns were damned near indestructible, but a bit heavy and wide. That's okay, my KP90DC conceals OWB just fine and it's only 33 ounces unloaded. The P95 was nearly as wide, but lighter.

The only new Ruger I've got is an SR22, fun little .22. I enjoy shooting it on my back yard range. I'd shoot it more if I could find a constant supply of ammo like I could before the political panic. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I have MY P guns of choice. I don't guess it matters that I can't buy another. I'll never need to unless mine get stolen. God knows they'll never wear out.

Kiln
October 7, 2013, 10:16 PM
I actually love the way the XD and XDM series pistols look. I think they look hardcore and the grip is great.

dieselmech
October 7, 2013, 10:21 PM
ive got a p89. i hate the thing, but it has always worked and travles well in the glovebox or console. it can also do double duty as a club

MCgunner
October 9, 2013, 04:11 PM
They are about the only gun uglier than a Glock.

Tiz my opinion that ALL square guns, including 1911s, are fugly. A gun must be round to appeal to my eye, like an 1873 colt or a 58 Remmy or at least a Smith and Wesson double action. Eye candy is round. I do carry fugly guns for defense, but also carry DA revolvers when I feel like it. :D They're hidden, so I can't actually admire them when I'm carrying them, though.

Weevil
October 9, 2013, 10:45 PM
Yeah I'm kinda curious myself.


So just which pistols are considered pretty???

Ken70
October 10, 2013, 12:00 AM
Is this the one that has a lever down in the guts of the gun, that you need to manipulate to disassemble the gun? I think it is, I watched the guy at the LGS try to get it apart, and he was having no luck. It is ugly.

Phaedrus/69
October 10, 2013, 03:51 AM
The Ruger was fuggly with crappy ergos and lots of sharp edges, but it was super solid and reliable. My dad really loved them. It's a shame to see them go away. I don't know much about the newer ones. Only Ruger I have in an old Standard Model/ MK I that I've had since the late 80's- bought it used in a pawn shop. Looks terrible but shoots beautifullly!

kokapelli
October 10, 2013, 09:45 AM
Is this the one that has a lever down in the guts of the gun, that you need to manipulate to disassemble the gun? I think it is, I watched the guy at the LGS try to get it apart, and he was having no luck. It is ugly.
That lever is still present in the newer SR9 series and I can't understand anyone having even the slightest problem disassembling one of these pistols.

weblance
October 10, 2013, 09:28 PM
Is this the one that has a lever down in the guts of the gun, that you need to manipulate to disassemble the gun? I think it is, I watched the guy at the LGS try to get it apart, and he was having no luck.

The "lever" is the ejector, and its no where "down in the guts of the gun" Its a simple matter of locking open the slide, and pushing the ejector down. If the guy at the gun shop couldnt manage to do this, I would quickly find another gun shop. I suppose he has trouble tying his shoes also. Where do these people come from?

HOOfan_1
October 10, 2013, 09:37 PM
The "lever" is the ejector, and its no where "down in the guts of the gun" Its a simple matter of locking open the slide, and pushing the ejector down. If the guy at the gun shop couldnt manage to do this, I would quickly find another gun shop. I suppose he has trouble tying his shoes also. Where do these people come from?

The sear disconnect on the M&P is harder to push down than the ejector on the Rugers

Mike J
October 10, 2013, 10:36 PM
I can field strip my old .40 caliber P94 in less than a minute. Once you know how it is easy. That gun shop guy must not have known what he was doing.

The P series guns were rugged & reliable. I always liked the way my old P94 looks. I have nicer guns now & it doesn't make it out as much as it once did but I keep it around because I'm kinda attached to it & it works.

Don357
October 12, 2013, 02:23 AM
Guns, cars and guitars. All the same. Anything worth having is either out of production or extremely overpriced.

kokapelli
October 12, 2013, 10:24 AM
Guns, cars and guitars. All the same. Anything worth having is either out of production or extremely overpriced.
I don't know about guitars, but compared to guns cars are a real bargain.

You can buy a very functional car for $14,000 that is guaranteed for 100,000 miles or ten years and when you consider all the electronics and mechanical parts are in a car, guns are a big ripoff.

You will drive a car for years with the engine running at 2,000 to 3,000 revolutions a minute or higher for years and now consider how many slide strokes a gun can handle before it wears out.

I can't even imagine how many explosions occurs in a car engine over all the years it's driven, but surely it's well into the millions, or maybe billions, now compare that to how many rounds a gun can handle before it fails.

Cars are a real bargain and guns are anything but.

wanderinwalker
October 12, 2013, 05:07 PM
Beg to differ RE: guns and cars. Guns are a bargain when you consider what their service life is versus purchase price.

You can take a box stock Ruger P-series and expect it to run 50k rounds. Let's say that's 9mm at current pricing ($25/100?). $250 per 1k * 50 = $12500 of ammo. If the purchase price of the pistol was $350, you've spend almost 36x that on ammo.

I have a hard time believing my $14k Toyota Corolla will last long enough to spend half a million on just gas. (Figuring current price of $3.50 a gallon that's near 5 million miles. As a point of comparison.)

At any rate, I always thought the old P-90 was a nice .45 but never got to hold or try one out. I was a bit shocked when I noticed they were no longer catalogued. And now the P-95 is gone as well. (And let me say, having fired a P-95 and a P-345, I found them to be horribly clunky, but they worked reliably.)

kokapelli
October 12, 2013, 08:51 PM
Beg to differ RE: guns and cars. Guns are a bargain when you consider what their service life is versus purchase price.

You can take a box stock Ruger P-series and expect it to run 50k rounds. Let's say that's 9mm at current pricing ($25/100?). $250 per 1k * 50 = $12500 of ammo. If the purchase price of the pistol was $350, you've spend almost 36x that on ammo.

I have a hard time believing my $14k Toyota Corolla will last long enough to spend half a million on just gas. (Figuring current price of $3.50 a gallon that's near 5 million miles. As a point of comparison.)


Gas vs ammo? what does that have to do with what you get for the money with cars vs guns?

You can spend thousands on one pistol and all it does is smack a primer with a firing pin and slams a slide backward and forward.

Compare that with a car that has a sophisticated braking systems, anti skid system, doors, windows, lights, sound system, very sophisticated electronics, comfortable seats usually for four or more people, air bags, a very complicated transmissions and an engine that has city times more moving parts, is also infinitely more complicated than any gun but will still handle millions more internal explosions than any gun.

What you feed the car or the gun is another story, but when comparing what you get for your dollar when purchasing the two, the car is a steel.

HOOfan_1
October 12, 2013, 09:30 PM
What you feed the car or the gun is another story, but when comparing what you get for your dollar when purchasing the two, the car is a steel.

Well...cars usually require a lot more maintenance over their life time...and that maintenance is a lot more expensive too.

kokapelli
October 12, 2013, 09:35 PM
Well...cars usually require a lot more maintenance over their life time...and that maintenance is a lot more expensive too.
That's true, but I'm just comparing the actual product.

JTQ
October 12, 2013, 11:05 PM
kokapelli wrote,
I don't know about guitars, but compared to guns cars are a real bargain.
Heck, for a few hundred dollars you can buy a new gun when you turn 21, and for the average shooter, that gun will last the rest of your life, and most likely the life of your children.

For $25,000 you can buy a new car at age 21, which by the way, is a pretty big loan for your average 21 year old, and it may last the average owner 10 years. Next you buy a $30,000 car (with another loan) that may last you another 10 years, then you buy a ..., well, you get the idea. If you're frugal, you could stretch your way through five cars and about $150,000 worth of those cars through your lifetime vs. a single $500 gun for a lifetime. I think the gun is the bargain tool.

I'm convinced one of the reasons guns have become so popular over the past 30 years is because cars have become less of a bargain. The guy that used to buy a car in the '50's or 60's and tinker around with it, now buys a gun and tinkers around with it simply because guns are affordable and cars aren't anymore.

kokapelli
October 12, 2013, 11:11 PM
I'm convinced one of the reasons guns have become so popular over the past 30 years is because cars have become less of a bargain. The guy that used to buy a car in the '50's or 60's and tinker around with it, now buys a gun and tinkers around with it simply because guns are affordable and cars aren't anymore.
Really? How many people owned cars in the fifties and how many own them now and an average white male with a job, in 1950, made a median inflation adjusted wage of $18,001. Today, that number is $31,335

MedWheeler
October 13, 2013, 12:06 AM
Okay, this is now a "guns-compared-to-cars" thread? :rolleyes:

TennJed
October 13, 2013, 02:32 PM
Kokapelli, you are forgetting one very important thing which I believe really ups the bargain aspect of guns. Customer service and lifetime warranties. It is really amazing how well the firearm industry treats its customers. I think it is safe to assume Dodge doesn't give a crap if my 14 year old truck breaks down. I got Rugers twice that age and know they will take care of them if something goes wrong

kokapelli
October 13, 2013, 03:17 PM
Yes I will give that.

bikerdoc
October 13, 2013, 03:36 PM
Holy thread drift batman!!!:)

Please bring it back to OP please.

capttom
October 13, 2013, 04:10 PM
I don't have any personal interest in the P95 (or indeed, any of the centerfire Ruger semi's), but I mourn their passing. It's another indication that we're losing an entire class of weapons. Metal hammer guns seem to be going the way of the dinosaur. I've tried the plastic striker-fired pistols with dingus triggers and simply don't like them. CZ, Beretta and SIG continue metal production and there are a host of smaller European offerings, but I wonder about their long term production. I'm glad I have my Colt .45 Combat Commander and my 9mm. third generation Smith & Wessons.

kokapelli
October 13, 2013, 04:19 PM
The fact that polymer based guns are selling so well must mean a lot of people must like them.

I have a couple of CZ pistols and they are fine guns, but my Ruger SR9 with it's striker and polymer base has become my favorite 9mm.

it all depends on what you like and as you mentioned there are still all kinds of all metal guns available.

Biohazard1993
October 22, 2013, 10:41 AM
I too will miss the p series... RIP. On the other hand expounding on making 9mm and 40 cal versions of the sr22p (full size and compact) would be nice, more of a walther type firearm. Still has a hammer, lite-weight polymer frame, decent capacity, reliable, and looks sweet as candy. I prefer the walther mag release on the trigger guard as apposed to ruger's on the grip, but i can live with the ruger mag release.

ritepath
October 22, 2013, 10:46 AM
We still have Sig and CZ and that ain't bad.

We just lost a budget but reliable option.

Biohazard1993
October 22, 2013, 01:14 PM
I agree, I feel we are losing a whole class of pistols; likes and dislikes aside, it is the truth. I feel sad when i see pistols with hammers being discontinued. I like my weapons to have hammers, I just can't get past the fugliness of most striker pistols. Pluss something about having a hammer on a pistol is just well...bad@$$. I owned a S&W M&P9 (had a few problems i worked out), traded it for a tanfoglio witness 9mm combat and never looked back. I understand that polymer striker pistols are lite-weight and easy to carry, but when it comes down to what makes me personally think "Oh yeah I want one" or "oh yeah I own one" is a heavy full metal hammerd pistol. The p95 had polymer (great for carry) but it still had the hammerand it has a place in my heart and I am sad to see what is going to be the waning of hammer driven pistols.

hemiram
November 1, 2013, 05:17 AM
While the Rugers never appealed all that much to me, I'm sad to see another metal pistol line bite the dust. I don't really like plastic guns much at all, give me steel. Solid steel, and I'm happy. It's hard for me to think of a better gun than an all steel CZ or a clone, or a 3rd generation S&W, like a 5906 or 4506. I have a bunch of these guns and love them all.

Kiln
November 1, 2013, 04:50 PM
While the Rugers never appealed all that much to me, I'm sad to see another metal pistol line bite the dust. I don't really like plastic guns much at all, give me steel. Solid steel, and I'm happy. It's hard for me to think of a better gun than an all steel CZ or a clone, or a 3rd generation S&W, like a 5906 or 4506. I have a bunch of these guns and love them all.
Well the frame was polymer on the P95 but it does represent another hammer fired design biting the dust. Pretty sure in 20 years nearly everything will be striker fired.

DC3-CVN-72
November 2, 2013, 01:47 AM
Ruger made ALOT of the P Series guns. They will be sitting next to the 3rd. gen S&W guns in the used gun case @ my LGS. forever. I think they will continue to be a best buy 4 the $$$. I would realy like a LNIB P-90 under $400.00 !! :evil::)

TennJed
November 2, 2013, 02:56 AM
Well the frame was polymer on the P95 but it does represent another hammer fired design biting the dust. Pretty sure in 20 years nearly everything will be striker fired.

I can't wait to see what the purist say when the first striker fire "1911" hits the market ;)

Kahr33556
November 3, 2013, 10:58 AM
Ya I don't care for mine to much.it was cheaper than others and is reliable.
just keep it loaded as a home defense gun.

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