Which pocket folding knife with screwdriver (EDC/SD)?


October 2, 2013, 01:36 PM
I know there are multi-tools out there with both knife blades and screwdrivers (I've been carrying one for years, a Skeletool CX, it’s fantastic). But I am looking for something that is primarily a knife, but with screwdrivers also. Something with a larger/more substantial blade than most multi-tools. This is going to be an EDC kind of thing for everyday working tasks, with a nod toward self-defense.

I’ve narrowed it down to three I’m looking at (but I’m open to other suggestions):

Leatherman Crater C33T (http://www.leatherman.com/860211.html#start=4)

Kershaw Select Fire (http://www.kershaw-knives.net/Kershaw-Select-Fire-1920.php)

Gerber Obsidian (http://www.gerbergear.com/Industrial/Knives/Obisidian-Fine-Edge-Knife_22-41021)

All are in the $20-30 range on Amazon. Anyone have experience with one or more of these? I'm kind of partial to the Kershaw right now (longer blade and exchangeable bits), but I like the safety on the Gerber, and as I said I've been carrying a Leatherman for years and have nothing but good things to say about it.

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October 2, 2013, 02:02 PM
I've lost confidence in Gerber products lately with their numerious recalls.

My personal experience with interchangable bits is that the bits get lost. The other annoyance is when the drive "blade" doesn't lock. Reviews on the Kershaw are good, but those are nits I have to pick with any exchangable bit setup.

Look at the Victorinox One Hand Trekker.

Yo Mama
October 2, 2013, 04:11 PM
Seconding the Vic Trekker.

Also, can't go wrong with Leatherman, sidekick is my fav

October 2, 2013, 04:44 PM
Then just get screwdrivers. The shape of screwdrivers are a "nod to self defense" in their own right.

October 2, 2013, 05:16 PM
I've been carrying one for years, a Skeletool CX, it’s fantastic

I LOVE my Skeletool. Sorry. You mentioned it and I got excited.

Carry on.

Sam Cade
October 2, 2013, 05:42 PM
I've lost confidence in Gerber products lately with their numerous recalls.

The Obsidian should be the subject of a recall. Both examples I had suffered from spontaneous self partial disassembly syndrome after light usage. :banghead:

I'll post a pic once I get back to the house.

Sam Cade
October 2, 2013, 07:53 PM
OK Gerber Obsidian.
Not a bad looking knife.

But wait, something is missing!

Both examples that I released into the wild failed identically, losing the pivot for the (non locking) supplementary tools.

Without that wee fastener the tail end of the knife is loose and wobbly.

Just a spacer:

October 2, 2013, 08:52 PM
If both failed I think that might be a good subject for a write up.

Sam Cade
October 2, 2013, 09:04 PM
If both failed I think that might be a good subject for a write up.

I would but it has been several years ago and I can't speak with much accuracy as to the circumstances of failure.

I've got a couple of slightly hamfisted non-knife-guy acquaintances involved in general contracting who I use as long term knife testers with sometimes mind boggling results.

Ohen Cepel
October 2, 2013, 09:32 PM
The Buck CSAR-T is more $$ but worth a look. It's a TANK of a knife!

Doesn't have screwdrivers but does had a bit holder. When I carry mine I carry a small selection of bits on my belt also.

It's a bit off of what you're looking for but is a full size knife and I like that if I mess up a bit it's easily replaced. Mess up part of the knife and it's messed up for good.

October 2, 2013, 09:48 PM
Also look at the Wenger Ranger.

October 2, 2013, 09:53 PM
Yikes re: those obsidian pictures / failure stories. I have one and it has actually rotated to the top of my EDC list because I am almost as likely to need a small screwdriver as I am to need a knife on a daily basis.

That being said, I've carried the Obsidian for about 9 months and haven't had any issues with it.

Maybe that Crater c33T is in my future.

October 2, 2013, 10:08 PM
Or you could class it up a bit and find a TL-29 on ebay:


Sam Cade
October 2, 2013, 10:44 PM
That being said, I've carried the Obsidian for about 9 months and haven't had any issues with it.

It might be wise to periodically check the tightness of that rearmost fastener.

Y'know, the fix for that issue might have been something so simple as just slathering said fastener with a thread-locking compound.

October 2, 2013, 11:16 PM
I have a Kershaw Selectfire that was given to me as a gift. Its OK.

The screwdriver portion of the knife works well enough that I keep the knife in my coffee table drawer as a go to screwdriver for toys and stuff like that. Bit retention is solid, and they are easy enough to access. Oddly, it's the knife portion that I am not wild about. It's OK, but it just seems to clunky to carry around. Not bad, not good. Just... eh. I don't dislike it, I certainly appreciate that it was given to me as a gift, and they are cheap enough that I might have bought one on a whim. I think my ambivalence really boils down to the fact that it's clunky, which is not a phrase I typically describe Kershaw knives with.

For an EDC multitool, I like the Leatherman Wingman. Nothing fancy, does everything I want. The screwdrivers are adequate, but what I personally like about it aside from the decent pliers is the scissors. My second choice would be a SAK Super Tinker. Skeletool would be my third choice, only because thats the only other EDC multitool I happen to own.

October 3, 2013, 10:38 PM
Get the Leatherman.

October 4, 2013, 07:36 PM
this one resides in my Harly's winshield bag. I highly reccomend it for EDC . The screw driver locks and is well placed.

October 4, 2013, 08:27 PM
Also look at the Wenger Ranger.
I went with the Victoria Knoxx version shown in this video. Actually it's a Victoria Knoxx model without a serrated blade. I've been very happy with it. Both the blade and flathead screwdriver lock. Knife prior to this that I carried for 15ish years was the Swiss army tinkerer. Prior to that for 20 or so years was a boyscout pocket knife.

October 4, 2013, 11:46 PM
If you want a screwdriver to carry in your pocket, get the Swisstech ScrewZall. It fits on your keyring. I've used knives with screwdriver blades and multitools with screwdriver attachments and none of the ones I've tried hold a candle to the functionality of the ScrewZall.

Then get whatever folding knife tickles your fancy.

October 5, 2013, 10:57 AM
I went with the select fire, and the screwdriver portion is good. Also, the bits feel pretty secure. I do not carry it daily, because I have better pocket knives for daily carry. The select fire actually stays in my range bag.

October 5, 2013, 12:01 PM
I have experience with leatherman tools, old gerber multipliers, SOG multipliers, and a couple of off-brands. The leatherman tools were the best all-around tools I had, they would open smoothly and stay open until I closed them. The SOG was nice but it was more expensive than the others and not a good choice for cutting with the blade shape/thickness. The OLD gerber multiplier was great until I broke the pliers. I sent in the old one and the replacement was not worth a darn, the locks for the tools were not that solid nor did it feel as "substantial" in my hand. The off-brand ones held up good for the $15-25 I put into them, they spent their lives in my glove box/windshield bag, tackle box, and desk at work.

I would look long and hard at the victorinox series of tools, I have known people who swear by them, and they have been in the "multi-tool" business a VERY LONG TIME.

October 5, 2013, 02:55 PM
My EDC consists of a Benchmade Barrage and a Leatherman Wingman. Not once would I consider combining a defensive tool and a mechanics tool in the same piece.

I'm *ahem* wide enough that there is no lack of space on my belt for stuff. Gun, knife, multi tool, flashlight, reload for gun car keys, work keys... most days that is it.

October 8, 2013, 10:44 PM
I'd suggest the Buck X-tract. (http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=product.detail&productID=3627) There are a few variations, but I have the 735.

It carries like a smaller multi-tool, but works well as a one-handed opener. It's very affordable, too (though one of China-made Bucks). A good pair of scissors are another plus, as is the one-handed screwdriver (phillips and flat-head, depending on which way you slide it).

October 9, 2013, 02:48 AM
I also have a Kershaw Selectfire. My main dislike is the blade shape. I feel like it's a little too wide and thick and heavy for what I'd want for EDC. I haven't used the blade much, so I can't comment on edge retention or sharpening of the 8CR13M blade. My Selectfire lives in my Savage rifle case. I customized the bit loadout so that along with a custom spanner wrench to get the FP spring on/off, it contains every tool needed to completely detail strip said rifle. That's one advantage of the Selectfire. Whether you need torx, hex, or screwdriver bits, the spring-loaded bit holders are secure and easy to access.

I've purchased and tossed a lot of gimmicky knives. I feel like the Selectfire is a keeper.

October 9, 2013, 05:37 PM
this one resides in my Harly's winshield bag. I highly reccomend it for EDC . The screw driver locks and is well placed.

No doubting the quality there, but if I am going to carry something like that with the potential that I am going to have to fix something on the side of the road with it, I want pliers. Still, I guess if it is the windshield bag, no reason you couldn't that and a pair of pliers.

And that is my only personal objection to that. If it weren't for my desire for pliers, I would basically carry a super tinker or something similar and call it good.

October 11, 2013, 09:20 AM
Vise grips are much handier than pliers when carried on a vehicle:evil:

October 11, 2013, 10:55 AM
True enough! Actually, in a truck or car, no reason not to have a small set of wrenches, period.

October 16, 2013, 10:02 PM
Swiss army knife are great. I carry my camping knife 90% of the time.

November 21, 2013, 01:40 AM
Sorry, gotta jump on the Skeletool CX band wagon. I have both the serrated carbon fiber, as well as the non serrated, non carbon fiber. The carbon fiber serrated blade is simply better, in my humble opinion.

November 21, 2013, 07:58 PM
Hey.... its a new guy!!!!


Why do you think the serrated blade is better?

Just for the fact that's its serrated or do you think the material is better?

November 28, 2013, 06:58 PM
Victoronix (Swiss Army Knife) makes one with a 1-TB USB drive! ... sells for around $3,000. ROFLMAO!

If you can afford to pay that much for a knife ... you really don't need it!

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