S&W 460mag reloading cost correction please


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handgunner308
October 2, 2013, 11:54 PM
So even spending $357.40 on all new reloading stuff 100 bullets i reloaded would mean it paid $180 for all the equipment if $35 a box for cheapest box of 460 or it will have paid $300 of the equipment if $60 a box which i shoot now the real purpose is to defeat the cost of the $60 a box and also beat the accuracy and performance, i did the math.
I can play it right find used equipment and lower the price to a total of like $2xx spent to get started math goes back up high on second reloads cuz i cant calculate wat brass can be re-used so i added just buying new batches of brass after first 100 made still 55 rounds worth of powder and 900 rounds worth of primers

I go off of a lee handloader with hornady xtp mags 240 grn starline brass 1lb of hogdun h110 cci primers such and such

I notice with $60 winchester partition gold and dualbond in 460 cases are trimmed uneven seated unevenly and have alot of fliers read my 460 accuracy thread in revolver threads to get the full info

Is it worth my time and money for an averege hunter? What other ways can i lower down cost?

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Anmut
October 3, 2013, 12:07 AM
How much do you want to shoot your 460? Do you have other calibers you want to reload for? If you just want to send 50 rounds of 460 down range every six months it's going to take you a few years to get back in the black. If you might reload other calibers, well then it's something to think about.

Personally, I would not start with the 460 as your first round. I reload them and they are mini grenades and are very tricky to get right. You may want to think about something that will only break your gun if you screw up, and not blow your hand off.

JMHO.

handgunner308
October 3, 2013, 01:30 AM
well how tricky can it be? My Ideal load is a hornady 240 grn xtp bullet loaded with 45 grns of hogdon h110 should push it to 2000 fps from load data that I found from someone online plus I think the hornady reloading book says 48 grains will push it to 2000 fps but it will be hot load max limit.
I mean using a lee hand press kit at $50 and not needing a primer tool plus being able to find used scales and case trimmers for around $35 for it I can put my total cost down to $2xx.00
Not saying Im perfect but being a machinist I bet I can trim cases straighter and seat bullets straighter as well vs factory loads I can develope a much much accurate load hornady book does say the 240 grn xtp bullet can make a very accurate round and I plan to keep speeds at 2000 fps I dont intend on pushing it faster unless using 200 grn bullets that whay It will be easier with less powder vs trying to push a heavier bullet faster using more powder, RIGHT?
if it turns out to be more accurate than winchester dual bond and partition gold and those sell for $60 a box of 20 if I was to buy 100 rounds of either one it would have already paid and cost more than all I need to reload 100 hornady xtp's..... so far I have shot through 4 boxes of hornady factory 460 rounds and they go for $36 each box so thats $144 worth plus I have one box left over and they dont shoot well for my 460 10.5" revolver about 4-6 inch groups probobly bigger seems scattered. So I have $180 into 100 rounds of bullets that I dont want to shoot for hunting, I shot through half a box of winchester partition gold 260 grn 2000 fps and its $60 a box shoots alright about 2-5 inch groups at 100yards but still seems scattered and with fliers as well so 100 rounds of them would cost me $$300. So overall If Im hunting once twice a year and shoot about 10-50 rounds a year going to the range I would be saving SOME cash but more importantly not wasting time and money at the range and on bullets trying to find a round that flys straight plus reloading a more accurate round using my own machining skills.

ArchAngelCD
October 3, 2013, 04:42 AM
If all you're loading is the 460 Magnum there is no reason to spend $357.40 on reloading equipment. You can spend as little as $100 plus components and load for the 460 quite well.
$31.49 for dies
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/681170/lee-carbide-3-die-set-460-s-and-w-magnum
$27.99 for a press
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/807734/lee-reloader-single-stage-press
$27.49 for a scale to check the dipper
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/438260/hornady-gs-1500-electronic-powder-scale-1500-grain-capacity

Your prices may of may not match mine but they are current prices according to Midway and a few others.

Using those 240gr XTP bullets, CCI primers and H110 powder and assuming you saved your spent brass you can save a lot of money over buying that very expensive .460 S&W Magnum ammo.

CCI LRM Primers $33.99/1000
H110 $24.99/lb.
Hornady 240gr XTP $29.99/100
With those above prices you can load each Hornady round for less than 50 cents.
$9.90/20 rounds
$49.54/100 rounds

Speer 260gr Deep Curl bullets $15.99/50
$10.28/20 rounds
$51.44/100 rounds

200gr Hornady Flex Tip $26.99/50
$14.68/20 rounds
$73.44/100 rounds
Hornady 200gr Leverevolution ammo $28.99/20

Barnes XPB 275gr bullet $22.99/20
$26.80/20 rounds
$134.41/100 rounds
CarBon 275gr Barnes XPB bullet ammo $68.99/20
Buffalo Bore 275gr Barnes XPB ammo $64.99/20

Those are just a few examples of how much you can save on ammo, especially hunting ammo with premium bullets. $27 a box for Barnes bullet ammo is much better than $65 or $69 a box. Also remember, you can also load light loads with cast bullets for fun at the range and load 454 Casull or .45 Colt ammo for plinking.

handgunner308
October 3, 2013, 04:59 AM
I like the handloader has a deprimer and a priming tool in one kit i was going based off of new stuff yes i have saved all my shells i have 3 hornady boxes of them but buying new brass is a good idea to me incase some are cracked or bad. Im looking for the best hunting round most accurate thats why im so stuck on the hornady xtp mag bullet. Used scale used trimmer press dies powder primers bullets it still will add up to what i calculated completley to get started I dont know more insight would be great this is really helpful

ArchAngelCD
October 3, 2013, 05:03 AM
I like the handloader has a deprimer and a priming tool in one kit i was going based off of new stuff yes i have saved all my shells i have 3 hornady boxes of them but buying new brass is a good idea to me incase some are cracked or bad. Im looking for the best hunting round most accurate thats why im so stuck on the hornady xtp mag bullet. Used scale used trimmer press dies powder primers bullets it still will add up to what i calculated completley to get started I dont know more insight would be great this is really helpful
Well I'm sure you will save plenty of money since I doubt you will find Hornady XTP ammo for twice the price you can load them for. At under $10/box you will make up the costs quickly especially if you load practice ammo too and shoot enough to get very good with that revolver. Something you probably couldn't do if you had to buy the ammo, I know I couldn't pay those prices.

gamestalker
October 3, 2013, 05:35 AM
The initial investment for the reloading equipment is never a consideration, in my opinion. The simple fact that once you have your equipment you are ready to enjoy the ability to shoot and enjoy loads of your liking, and at prices per box that will always beat factory hands down. And considering what a box of top shelf factory hunting loads go for, well? It wouldn't take a very many boxes of expensive factory to amount to the cost of a decent single stage set up. And if you look hard enough you may be fortunate enough to find some of the more expensive equipment for far less than buying new. And with many of those tools of the trade, the manufacturer, if RCBS or other quality brand, will honor the life time warrantee regardless if your the original owner, or not, much like buying new.

Although I started when the equipment was far less expensive, as were components, economics still had little bearing on my reason for reloading in the first place. I wanted to shoot the very best ammunition obtainable, the significant savings was just one more advantage to reloading my own

But anyone who ponders the decision to reload must weigh the advantages accordingly.

GS

handgunner308
October 3, 2013, 05:43 AM
Im not the best shooter but i do shoot great with handguns i have shot more big bore handguns in my life than rifles. Last year i was able to put 3 inch groups at 50 yards and 5 inc groups at 100 with my desert eagle in 50ae 6 inch barrel, seeing how my groups were such and my uncle with the exact same gun as my smith 460 had exactly the same results tells me factory ammunition nowadays are not as good as they were before. Our guns are so similar that both sighted with hornady shot same groups both switched to winchester both shot them way off paper to the right and high. Ill think and keep reading answers replies and sugestions to make up my mind.
I noticed you have to look at the rounds you make as currency to get the sense of saving money but overall you will spend more buying bullets too im starting to see it dies depend on how much you do shoot

handgunner308
October 3, 2013, 05:53 AM
The 460 is a tough round to decide on my dad sends federal match sierra matchking .308 out his 15 inch encore pistol with bullets touching at 100 yards for a box of his amazing match grade bullets the same price gets me hornady 460 loads with the infamous non expanding bullet or explosivley expanding no penetrating bullet, from what i been reading all over the internet and they dont even group well out my revolver. Its a doozy if only manufactures knew how to price it right and fairly $60 a box of somewhat better stuff still isnt worth it at time to me

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