Q4-2013 Rimfire Match:


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Maverick223
October 3, 2013, 10:29 PM
Welcome to the Rimfire Match for the months of October/November/December 2013! This match is open to any and every 22 caliber (as well as 17 and 20 caliber) rimfire rifle including the perennial favorite .22LR, as well as the .22Short, .22Long, .22 Mag., .17HM2, .17HMR, .17WSM, and 5mm Rem RF Mag (as well as any oddball rimfires that you might have). This match is meant to be challenging and educational, but most of all FUN. Hopefully it will get you out to the range and shooting your rifle. If you have one handy, make sure an bring a friend too.


There are Two Optics Divisions:
->Iron sights and non-magnified optics and red dots. Shot at 25yds.
->Scopes and other magnified sighting devices. Shot at 50yds.

*Note that the distance of irons div. returned to 25yds.

There are Two Rifle Classes:
->Target Class: unlimited class primarily dedicated to target rifles but also includes any rifles that do not meet the prerequisites for the sporting division (highly modified rifles, rests, target sights, sub-.20cal. chamberings, high magnification optics- over 10x [in the appropriate division] may be used)
->Sporting Class: limited class for sporting rifles used in "field conditions" (Includes All Non-Target Class Autoloaders, Bolt Actions, Single Shots, Pumps, & Lever Rifles chambered for any rimfire cartridge .20cal./5mm and larger)

Both classes can be shot from any position. Rests/Sandbags/bipods are permitted in the Target Class only. Shooting stick(s) are now permitted for both divisions (either crossed or walking stick style). Use of a sling is encouraged.

25 Yd. (Irons) Target: See image attached below (we've shot this one before, but I think it was a good one, so lets give it another go). Scale to "fit to page" on standard 8.5x11in. paper. The objective is to fire as many shots as necessary at the individual "holes" until the edge of the dot has been broken. The target is scored as one point for each shot (up to 5, after which time you can just mark a five for that "hole" and continue), with a 2pt. penalty being assessed for each "sand-trap" hit. Note that, just like golf, the lower the score the better, with the shooter that attains the lowest score being the winner.

50 Yd. (Optics) Target: Same as above.

If you enjoyed this match and want a bit more challenge, or just compare your rimfires to their larger cousins, check out the concurrent Centerfire Match (now quarterly). Discontinued till further notice (Will likely be up and running again later this month).

When you are satisfied you've done your best post/attach (or shoot me a PM) a photo or scan of your target with as much of the following information as possible: Forum name (or name you want posted in the results), Rifle, make, model, vintage (if known), Sights/Optics (with magnification if applicable), Ammo, Position, Distance, Conditions (in/outdoors, wind, temperature...). Multiple submissions are allowed (in same or different division/class with same or different rifles).

Self-scoring is encouraged and appreciated; all submissions due before October 32nd. ;)

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Texas4x4hoe
October 3, 2013, 10:56 PM
I think I printed some of these out but never got to shoot them. I'll definitely get to it this time.

Maverick223
October 3, 2013, 11:01 PM
Great to have you on board, Texas4x4hoe.

:)

KSCCHTrainer
October 4, 2013, 09:11 AM
Mav,
Could you or someone else make a properly sized PDF file of this? I can't seem to get my browser to print any bigger than a 75% scale image of this one.

Jim

Texas4x4hoe
October 4, 2013, 10:01 AM
You have a Mac by chance?

KSCCHTrainer
October 4, 2013, 11:40 AM
Nope, old HP PC that I keep running with duct tape and baling wire (plus WD 40 for the fan bearings) :evil:

Probably won't be able to shoot this one til around the end of November - had my pacemaker replaced a couple weeks ago and cardiologist won't let me shoot (even .22lr) until he does the next follow-up visit on the 20th of November. If I can find where it came from on the internet, I can download it and make the PDF myself.

Jim

Texas4x4hoe
October 4, 2013, 02:31 PM
I had problems printing it from my internet browser but I saved it to my computer then it printed fine.

KSCCHTrainer
October 4, 2013, 09:43 PM
I had problems printing it from my internet browser but I saved it to my computer then it printed fine.
Thanks!
That worked - got some good printouts of it finally.

Jim

Texas4x4hoe
October 4, 2013, 10:53 PM
Thanks!
That worked - got some good printouts of it finally.

Jim

Glad I could help.

Maverick223
October 5, 2013, 03:24 AM
Sorry to be so late to the punch, I've been very busy all day, and I haven't the software to convert it to .pdf format with me (I'm out of town for a couple of weeks). This one was created by a fellow THR member so I can't even refer you to the source on the internet...that said I will arrange for someone else to convert it for me if need be. Just let me know if you guys have any more problems and I'll get it done one way or another.

:)

Centurian22
October 5, 2013, 03:52 AM
I miss participating in these so much! I have yet to be able to obtain more .22lr ammo but I've been getting closer. Hopefully I can get some and put some holes in paper for this one.

Maverick223
October 5, 2013, 11:59 PM
Good luck, Centurian22. If you're not too picky (like myself) you can probably find a box or two if you stand fast and keep looking, at least that's what I have seen at home.

:)

KSCCHTrainer
October 6, 2013, 08:52 AM
Good luck, Centurian22. If you're not too picky (like myself) you can probably find a box or two if you stand fast and keep looking, at least that's what I have seen at home.

:)
Hey Centurian22,

I have an unopened 325 round bulk pack of Federal "Auto Match" that I'd ship you for $20 (originally paid $18.95 + tax at Walmart) plus whatever UPS charges to ship it to you. (Unfortunately, the UPS shipping charges for even that small parcel might be more than the cost of the ammo).

PM me if you're interested. It isn't the best ammo in the world, but I have had fair luck with it in my standard 10/22's. It always seems to go "BANG" and cycles the semi-autos just fine and it would at least let you get out and shoot some.

I only have one of these but sending it to you won't cut into my shooting as I have plenty of my favorite Wolf "Match Target" stuff on hand and no, the Wolf ain't for sale - ;)

Jim

Jimmy M.
October 22, 2013, 03:26 PM
Hi Guys........I guess somebody's got to be first.
What a great idea.....buddy and me played three rounds of golf on the
weekend. Just like the real game I got a couple of good holes then got
cocky and blew one out of the water.
Thank you Maverick for going to all the trouble to set up these little competitions........now how about more shooters.

I'm shooting a Savage Mk 11 with a 4-16 Simmons at 50 yds off sandbags.
Could use better optics ( and better eyes too )

gonna try again soon

Maverick223
October 22, 2013, 04:07 PM
Welcome to the match, Jimmy M., and despite your longstanding membership welcome to THR as well (I figure that nobody has been afforded the opportunity to properly welcome you considering that this is your inaugural post). Also, thank you for getting us started...I think your first post is a well placed one. I hope that you enjoy the match and return for many more!

:)

gpjoe
October 25, 2013, 08:30 AM
Attached is a copy of the target converted to pdf, if anyone wants it.

Maverick223
October 25, 2013, 12:58 PM
Thank you for adding that, gpjoe!

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Jimmy M.
October 27, 2013, 09:37 PM
Tried it again this weekend.......strong gusty winds.....best I could
do was 21.......ouch !!
Being kind of stubborn ( and not too smart ), I'll be trying again. :)

Maverick223
October 27, 2013, 10:59 PM
Being kind of stubborn ( and not too smart ), I'll be trying again.That's the spirit! :p Hope you get a nice calm day to better your score (BTW, and you probably already know this, but just in case you don't, you can submit as many attempts as you like).

:)

KSCCHTrainer
October 31, 2013, 02:35 PM
Realizing that not many who are shooting 10/22's in the matches will be using the Ruger BX-25 magazines, but most of us have one or two of them. Over on Rimfire Central, there's a guy (forum nickname - Sallowpad) that is advertising a follower bushing fix for the older mags having feeding problems. I got mine in this morning (they aren't cheap, being CNC machined out of super quality aluminum at 15 bucks a pop, plus shipping, but IMO they are worth it). They take all the slop out of the follower and keep it from allowing a cartridge to nosedive or stick up too far causing a jam, or, heaven forbid, a "slamfire".

They are fairly easy to install and have a much wider lip than the original plastic bushing. This makes them follow the track in the magazine much more smoothly and keeps the follower positioned properly through the entire range of travel. This even makes it easier to load cartridges into the magazine and saves some wear and tear on your thumb!

Jim

Maverick223
October 31, 2013, 07:08 PM
I don't need one (I like the old rotary 10s), but I'm sure that there are folks here that do. Thanks for giving us a heads up, Jim.

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KSCCHTrainer
October 31, 2013, 07:59 PM
I don't need one (I like the old rotary 10s), but I'm sure that there are folks here that do. Thanks for giving us a heads up, Jim.

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Yeah, I like the old rotary's too, but for the "Takedown" model in it's carrying bag, I like to keep 4 of the BX-25's loaded up in the bottom pocket.

I found some "Cocoon" Tyvek sleeping bags that are packaged real small and are real light weight so I put 2 of them, 2 space blankets, some fire starting materials, a hundred feet of para-cord, a small Katadyn water filter and some first aid items in the other pocket of that nice Ruger carrying bag. That becomes my "Get Home" bag and gets placed in the trunk of the car whenever we go beyond a local trip. Not good enough for a "Bug Out" bag, but for normal trips, if we wind up living through a wreck or some other kind of disaster that stops us out in the boonies, there's at least enough there to hunt for food, provide drinkable water and with the space blankets/para-cord and Tyvek sleeping bags, material to build a shelter to keep most of the weather out at least for a while. The Tyvek "cocoons" are good down to the low teens temperature wise and also can be reversed to put the reflective material on the outside for hotter weather. Oh, and there's always a box with a roll of duct tape, 4' of 3/4" dowel rod along with a Swedish "Mora" knife and a folding limb saw that stays in the trunks of both cars.

Everybody ought to have something like that in the vehicle on trips. Doesn't take up much space and might just save the bacon.

Jim

Merle1
November 2, 2013, 11:04 PM
Well, I'm going to work up the nerve & give this a try. Hopefully I won't be dead last..... :what:

Maverick223
November 5, 2013, 12:22 PM
Welcome to the match, Merle1! Good luck at the range.

:)

KSCCHTrainer
November 17, 2013, 07:28 PM
Hey gang,
If the ammo prices ever get to where Maverick decides to reinstate the centerfire matches, I finally picked up a brand new, in the box, Howa Targetmaster .223 off a local guy that decided he didn't want it for $500 (MSRP around a grand but usually discounted to $699-750). It came with a Hogue overmolded stock that has an aluminum chassis, 24" heavy barrel (only bad thing is the barrel is a 1:12 twist so my 62 grain match ammo is going to be pushing the limit of what I'll be able to shoot in it.) I've got lots of 55 grain bullets, so I'm sure I'll be able to work up a good shooting load for it though.

Came with a mounted 4-14X44 Nikko-Sterling 1/8MOA per click side focus, mil-dot scope, 5+1 internal magazine with the aftermarket plastic parts for a detachable 10 round box, but the reviews on that are pretty poor claiming the plastic mag lips wear out after only 150 rounds or so. Horrendous MSRP of $90+ bucks for that part too! Might just try to pawn it off on some local sucker along with the Nikko-Sterling branded Chinese bipod that was in the box -- :evil:

Instead of the bipod, I'll just shoot it off my Caldwell bags. I found an old canvas web sling from an M1 Garand that fits and looks like it belongs on the gun so that's there to stay.

Going to try to get to the range tomorrow or the next day to see how it shoots with the 62 grain match ammo. I've had the stuff shoot well in the longer 1:12 barrels, so hopefully it will work in this one.

Jim

Maverick223
November 17, 2013, 07:45 PM
Nice rifle, Jim. Hope that it performs as well as your Savage did. I decided to wait until the beginning of the year to restart the CF Match as I was out of town on business for the first couple of weeks this past month (when the RF Match began) and didn't have time to get it started properly. Things are almost always slow at the beginning of the year so I should have some time to devote to it at that point. I'm just hoping that rimfire ammunition gets a little easier to procure in the meantime (like most centerfire rifle cartridges have), the RF match seems to be hanging on by a thread (pun not intended) and I get the feeling it's not for lack of interest...it's the lack of ammo (I know that many folks want to conserve what they have...if they have any at all :uhoh:).

:)

Centurian22
November 17, 2013, 08:02 PM
Nice rifle Jim! Hope it shoots well for ya.

Mav: I agree on rimfire ammo! For the first time in a year I have obtained some .22lr and will be able to participate weather (and family commitment) permitting during my next time home. I also now reload for my .308 so after a little load development I should be able to participate in the centerfire when it starts back up as long as the target does not require too many rounds.

KSCCHTrainer
November 17, 2013, 08:19 PM
Great on finding some .22 rimfire ammo. It's showing up pretty regularly in the local Walmart and Cabela's. Depending on how much they get in a shipment, they are NOT allowing their employees to set any back for themselves, limiting customers to no more than 2 bricks and not letting the employees buy any until the end of their shift to give the customers first crack at it.

About time they cracked down on their employees hoarding the stuff and only letting their friends get it.

I'm not worried about .223 now as I have enough brass, bullets & powder to load around 6K or so. I have 2 full 8lb jugs of Varget on hand and at 7000 grains a pound, 25 grains per cartridge, that's just shy of 4500 rounds and I also have 8 pounds of Reloader 15 which works just as well and the most accurate load with it is also maxed out at 25 grains works out to around another 2200+ so I won't run out of .223 for a while. I'll actually run out of 62 grain match bullets before I run out of powder & primers. Looking for a source of inexpensive 55 grain .223 bullets now.

Jim

Centurian22
November 17, 2013, 10:11 PM
Recobs has Hornady vmax's at $17/100 in stock (among others). I don't know if that's a good price or not.

nbkky71
November 25, 2013, 03:39 PM
Finally thought that I'd finally have a chance to shoot this match since I missed out on the last one. But it was so $&#^ cold and windy at CRPC yesterday I bagged it early. hopefully next weekend

ford8nr
December 4, 2013, 03:11 PM
Found some Federal Auto Match ammo at Gander Mountain, bought a box to try...Auto Match is NOT the answer. Shot 50 yard 10 shot groups of 3-3/4" out of the CZ and 4-1/4" out of the 10/22T. Both guns shot 10 shot groups of SK+ in under 3/4". Even though it was REAL foggy I did get a chance to shoot a target using the CZ452 Varmint and SK+.
Shot a 14

Maverick223
December 4, 2013, 04:18 PM
I've had similar experiences with Federal Auto Match (shoots slightly worse than the 40gr. RN Fed. Champion IME) and have, therefore, swore it off.

As a side note, I have found the term "match" to be a mostly meaningless descriptor that doesn't always equate to superior accuracy (in general, without regard to the platform used). I move that all ammunition that uses the title "Match" (or some other derivation thereof) hereby be required to light a match-head at a distance no less than 25yds (using a rifle/rifleman suitable for performing the task). :D

Cee Zee
December 8, 2013, 03:42 AM
I've had similar experiences with Federal Auto Match (shoots slightly worse than the 40gr. RN Fed. Champion IME) and have, therefore, swore it off.

You guys do realize that "Federal Auto Match" is not the same as "Federal Premium Gold Medal Ammunition UltraMatch", right?

This stuff is $15 for a box of 325. It's ok for bulk ammo. It is "not" target or match grade ammo.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/130/130410.jpg

This stuff is $165 a brick here when it's in stock. I've never bought any at that price though. It's always considerably more expensive.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/552/552770.jpg

Both images are from Midway and neither is available there currently (surprise). I have seen the Gold Medal Ultra Match for sale often in the last year though.

The UltraMatch stuff is what won the Olympics a few years back. AFAIK it's the only US made ammo to ever do that. It is very accurate and consistent. If I really want to win a competition I'll use it.

Maverick223
December 8, 2013, 06:06 PM
You guys do realize that "Federal Auto Match" is not the same as "Federal Premium Gold Medal Ammunition UltraMatch", right?Sure, but having the title "Match" in the name one might believe that it would yield superior accuracy than their bottom of the barrel lead RN (40gr. Fed. Champion)...and IME it doesn't. I purchased some (and tried a couple different lots in several rifles) with fairly low expectations (coming bulk packaged doesn't inspire confidence, but with it's given price I thought it would be worth the opportunity to prove itself), and came out surprised that my expectations were far too high for the product delivered...very disappointing. That being said, I'm not trying to slander Federal (which produces many fine products) nor dissuade potential buyers from making a purchase, I simply want to inform folks that they should temper their expectations with respect to the ammunition in question.

As a side note, I find it interesting that they put the slogan "every shot counts" on a box with dismal performance and left it off of the box that you can rely upon when the shot counts.

:)

ford8nr
December 30, 2013, 03:02 AM
Was hoping to get couple more targets before the first. Supposed to be minus didgets at night and single numbers during the day. Darned weather.

Maverick223
December 30, 2013, 10:13 AM
There's still one more day for the weather to turn...good luck.

:)

nbkky71
December 30, 2013, 01:49 PM
I finally managed to shoot a round of THR golf today... just in the nick of time before the end of 2013.

Marlin 917V .17HMR
Mueller 8.5-25x40mm
Hornady 17gr V-MAX ammo
fired using front rest & rear bag

I didn't fill in the scores on the sheet, but my math comes up with an 12.

hole 1 - 1 shot
hole 2 - 1 shot
hole 3 - 1 shot
hole 4 - 2 shots
hole 5 - 1 shot
hole 6 - 1 shot
hole 7 - 3 shots
hole 8 - 1 shot
hole 9 - 1 shot

Most of my shots just broke the edge of each hole, favoring right. Holes #1 are #9 are *really* close, but they did break the line.

The shots are the bottom are sighters I took on a shoot-n-see paster.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~nbkky71/THR_GOLF.jpg

Maverick223
December 30, 2013, 07:44 PM
The first hole might be pretty close, but the ninth one is clear as day...it's hard to say, but honestly I think hole four might have squeaked by if you put a gauge on it (or used the bullet of an unfired cartridge as a stand-in).

At any rate, well done. :)

Cee Zee
December 30, 2013, 08:22 PM
I forgot to mention this Federal ammo:

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/802/802266.jpg

Compare that box to this box:

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/552/552770.jpg

Federal does make some good stuff and I was as loyal to them as I've been to any ammo for at least 20 years. That was shooting the plain 550 round bricks. But this "Federal Premium Gold Medal Target Ammunition" type shown above is clearly trying to cash in on the success of their Federal Premium Gold Medal Ammunition UltraMatch. It's just not right that they make these two boxes look so much alike when the ammo in them is far from the same.

ford8nr
December 30, 2013, 09:55 PM
The top box they make in two flavored, 711B sub sonic which I find strings vertically in my rifles and the 719 std velocity which I've had good luck shooting steel silhouettes out to 200 yds.

Maverick223
December 31, 2013, 12:53 AM
[...]the ammo in them is far from the same.^That.

Folks, please shop carefully!...the former box doesn't do well IME (perhaps I purchased the wrong 'flavor', I'm unsure of whether it was sub-sonic or std. vel.), whereas the later is nearly beyond reproach.

P.S.: I'm not trying to discourage anyone from purchasing the target grade ammo, as with most other ammunition performance varies so it may yield acceptable performance for you, just know what you're buying.

:)

KSCCHTrainer
December 31, 2013, 10:06 AM
Guys,
Near the end on the last day of a gun show in our local area several years ago, a vendor was trying to sell some Wolf "Match Target" ammo and not having much luck. Seems like somebody had been spreading the word that Wolf ammo was all made in Russia and was pure junk. (It's really not, it's made by Lapua.)

I was looking for some plinking .22 at the time and was discussing it with the guy. He offered me the 23,000 rounds that were still on the pallet for $250.00. I asked him if he was really serious and when he said yes, I handed him all the cash I had and hit the ATM to get the rest.

So far, this stuff has lived up to it's name "Match Target" and has been remarkably consistent even in some stock 10/22's to the point of under dime sized groups out to 50 yards & beyond.

A few months ago, Sportsman's Guide had it on one of their "one day Buyer's Club sales" and I got another 5K for what I paid for the original 23,000. Gave that to my wife along with a 10/22 Stainless "Sporter" I'd refinished & tricked out as a retirement present.

My wife wasn't too happy with me for spending that much money on ammo but now with the .22 shortage and her having her own .22 rifle & handgun to shoot, the tables have turned.

Family & other things sort of got in the way this quarter and I didn't get a chance to shoot the match, but I'm sure Maverick will bring the "golf course" back again in a future one.

Happy New Year to all and keep your powder dry.

Jim

Maverick223
December 31, 2013, 12:09 PM
Yeah, I think it's a good'un, we can bring it back after a while.

P.S: I'll get the new one set up tomorrow and will be bringing the CF match back as well...so check back in for the links after results have been posted.

:)

KSCCHTrainer
December 31, 2013, 01:19 PM
Oooooh, sounds great. Now that I have a new .223 and enough components to keep it fed with reloads for a while, the CF match revival ought to be interesting.

Now that my Dr. has cleared me to shoot my .223 again, and deer season is about over, finding space to shoot at the range should be easier. Pretty much everybody has their deer gun sighted in and the range has dropped the lane reservation requirement.

Jim

Maverick223
December 31, 2013, 07:40 PM
Glad to hear that you've been cleared for participation...I know that has to be aggravating having perfectly good centerfire rifles collecting dust in the closet.

:)

Cee Zee
January 4, 2014, 05:58 AM
He offered me the 23,000 rounds that were still on the pallet for $250.00

What a snag that was! I guess we all get lucky from time to time.

Maverick223
January 4, 2014, 01:05 PM
Sorry for the delay on posting results and the new match. Got a emergency call in for work New Years morning and completely forgot about it afterwards. :banghead: Please forgive my lack of attentiveness. Here's what I came up with for the Magnified/Target Division (keep in mind that the lower the score the better in this one):

1. nbkky 71 - 12pts.
2. Jimmy M. - 13pts.
3. ford8nr - 14pts.

I know that everyone has been busy for the holidays and the weather hasn't cooperated (and still isn't in many areas), but I'm hoping that things will change for the better in 2014. Hope this year turns out to be a great one for you folks!

:)

Maverick223
January 4, 2014, 01:08 PM
Oh, forgot to mention that the new match is up and running and will hopefully be stickied early this afternoon. See my signature for current links.

:)

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