Wanting new slim 9mm


October 15, 2013, 09:29 PM
OK, I know this is a rehash. I have large hands and wondering if anyone has shopped for a slim carry 9 and what the results were. I have a G26 now and I am trying to decide if it is worth the width reduction. Pistols like the XDS-9, Shield, Nano, CW9, LC9 and many others I am sure. Has anyone with large hands switched to one of these? Which one and why?

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October 15, 2013, 09:45 PM
I'm trying to find one myself. I've owned a glock 27 and found it just too thick for IWB carry.

I've shot a Kahr cw9, shield 9mm, and a Ruger LC9. I would still like to shoot a walther pps, XDS, and Bersa BP9CC. Out of the Kahr, the shield, and the ruger, I prefer how the Kahr shot. I was most accurate with it. The shield wasn't that far off.

October 15, 2013, 10:38 PM
My favorite carry-designed singlestack 9mm pistols are:

Tied for 1st place:
Walther PPS
9mm officer size 1911 from Armscor

Third place:
Springfield XD(S)9

Fourth place:
KelTec pf9 (bonus points for .22lr conversion)

... and I have large hands (2xl gloves) but liked slim pistols to start with.

October 15, 2013, 10:43 PM
I made the same switch, as I found my G26 too wide for CCW carry. I went with a Kahr P9 Black Diamond with night sights and couldn't be happier.

October 15, 2013, 10:50 PM
I have a g26 and a nano, I have large hands but really like the little nano, I shoot it better than I did my kahr cm9. I can pocket carry the nano in jeans.

October 15, 2013, 11:05 PM
My hands aren't huge, but my fingers are kind of long and thinner. Still, I can handle the harsh handling of the Kel-Tec PF9 just fine, and it is my EDC (I switched from a gun that was not only thicker-gripped, but shot a less-powerful round.)

So, anything even marginally thicker, such as the LC9 or CW9, would simply be that much more pleasant.

October 15, 2013, 11:06 PM
About 6 months ago I had my sights set on buying a 9mm Shield. I already have a M&P full size and was looking to purchase the Shield. Instead of the Shield, I left the LGS with a 9mm Bersa BP9CC. The grip and the trigger sold me. And for around $400, you won't go broke either. It has some good reviews.

October 16, 2013, 02:30 AM
If at all possible, shoot before you buy.

I have personal experience with three of your options mentioned.

My EDC is a G26, and I have no issues carrying it. I am fast and accu7rate with it, and can shoot a couple hundred rounds thru it comfortably any day.

My slim 9 is a Shield. Not as good with it as the G26, but still acceptable. It's my formal attire piece.

I had a LC9. Accurate, but slooow and less than comfortable. Gives up too much just to be smaller. Trigger sucked. Sold it and made two people happy!

If at all possible, shoot before you buy.

October 16, 2013, 07:55 AM
My experience mirrors that of Teachu2. I prefer to carry my P250 hybrid doublestack but a singlestack 9 is easier to carry & conceal.
Tried the Kahr CM9 & CW9 and while surprisingly accurate for such small pistols, I needed a Hogue grip sleeve for shooting comfort.
Tried a SIG P290RS (DAO like my P250) and while the grip is slim and doesn't fill my large hand comfortably like the bigger P250, I shoot it nearly as well and it carries/conceals much better w/o the need for a grip sleeve for comfortable shooting.
Handle/shoot as many options as you can, I'm sure you'll find something that will fit your particular needs.

October 16, 2013, 09:23 AM
I handled a S&W Shield 9MM yesterday at a LGS. I liked it a lot. It was slim, but still with a large enough grip to get a good hold. I also handled a Sig P938, and liked that also, but the grip was very short, and only allowed a two fingered hold. It was also more than $300 in cost over the Shield.

October 16, 2013, 10:20 AM
Mine is a Shield 9mm. 938 are nice but too much $$$ for me. I like the feel of the Nano, but didn't ever warm up to funky slide release. Was set on PT709 for a while due to great trigger, but went S&W for better quality reputation.

October 16, 2013, 10:37 AM
I like the Walther PPS for IWB as well as my S&W 3913.

October 16, 2013, 10:46 AM
I actually bracketed your Glock 26... I find my M&P Shield to be more comfortable (if not really any more concealable) due to how thin it is. On the other end, I find the Glock 19 to not really be any less comfortable or too much harder to conceal in a good holster (TT Gunleather IWB) than the Glock 26. So those are my two...

October 16, 2013, 11:10 AM
I have rather large hands and find that the Walther PPS with the large grip insert fits me very well and if anyone else in the household wishes to shoot it, I simply snap in the small grip insert.

October 16, 2013, 12:36 PM
I did 40 hours of research on the last toilet I bought. I'm somewhere in the 60 hour or more range on what single stack 9mm (in my budget range) so far I'm coming up Shield. I've still got more to go, the shield is a little heavy but covers most other bases I want. Gotta take a look at a g36 and bp9cc.

I rarely carried my m&p 9c because it was just too thick. I traded it and now it's time for something beyond my LCP. A thin 9 or 45 should do for my purposes.

Sergei Mosin
October 16, 2013, 12:57 PM
When I think slim 9mm, I think Browning Hi Power, but maybe that's just me.

October 16, 2013, 01:02 PM
Browning BDM.

October 16, 2013, 03:24 PM
The Walther PPS is super slim and a joy to shoot. And you can get 6-, 7-, or 8-round magazines depending on how much grip you want.

October 16, 2013, 03:35 PM
Browning BDM.
You know that isn't far fetched at all. The BDM was one if not THE slimest, full size, double stack 9MM's out there. I still prefer the Hi Power, however, but the BDM is an interesting piece.

Another slim 9MM is the HK P7, but I got the impression the OP was looking for a newer, sub-compact, but I could be totally wrong.

October 16, 2013, 03:52 PM
I'm still hoping that CZ will come out with a "thin Rami". Few guns fit my hand as well as a CZ and having one thin enough to be adequately concealable would be of extreme interest for me.

Kayaker 1960
October 16, 2013, 03:55 PM
I recently bought an LC9. It's slimmer and lighter than most. I shoot revolvers regularly so the trigger feels just fine to me.

Roadking Rider
October 16, 2013, 03:56 PM
Shot a Walther PPS9 Shield, Traded a kahr Pm9 for the XDS9. The XDs9 is my favorite, with the Kahr coming in second. #3 Walther PPs9 and then the Shield. All good guns just a matter of preference I suppose. I'm chomping at the bit waiting for the XDS to come back. I really like that pistol.

October 16, 2013, 05:33 PM
Unless seeking a pocket gun i'd stick with a double stack. I have big hands and an LC9. The biggest challenge is not so much my grip as the looooooong trigger pull. I almost have to shift my grip to finish the pull. Installing a rubber grip sleeve actually help a lot though and I intend to upgrade the trigger eventually. Really though its not primary carry gun and I only use when I can't go with an untucked shirt.

October 16, 2013, 06:12 PM
I sold my Glock 26 and bought a M&P 9c

Wow am I glad I did. :what:

9c is a much better gun in so many ways.

By the way it carries 12 + 1 in a very small thin package


October 16, 2013, 08:08 PM
Taurus 709

October 17, 2013, 07:30 AM
I tried the Shield but wound with a Kahr CM9 when I want to pocket carry. Very surprised at how accurate the little pistol is.

October 17, 2013, 09:58 AM
+1 on the Taurus 709 Slim. I carry mine in a Sneaky Pete holster.

October 17, 2013, 11:43 AM
Kahr, all of the 9's are thin. The ruger is thin, but has the worse wobble in the trigger of any 9mm or any other gun I have ever held. The shield is thin also. The MAK is thin, but heavy. The xds is a nice size but the problems follow it, also the Solo, but it's expensive. Taurus slim, is very slim, and appears to work well.

October 17, 2013, 12:36 PM
I find the Glock 26 a tad wide but manageable. The experts always tell us not to buy a gun smaller that ur hand. And 4 me, that's no Nano, it's a Glock 26.

October 17, 2013, 12:45 PM
+1 on the Taurus 709 Slim. I carry mine in a Sneaky Pete holster.
Another +1. If you have big hands, get the Pearce grip extensions. I have one on each of my mags. Pistol is carried IWB in a Tagua universal holster. I'm 6'3", 235, and with the grip extensions, it feels great in the hand. Hardly even feel it when I'm wearing it.

October 17, 2013, 04:16 PM
Look at the cw9 kahr.

October 18, 2013, 07:17 AM
Owned a Glock 26...it was like carrying around a clothes iron. Nice weapon...just not a good conceal carry.. S&W Shield is perfect for a CC weapon, in my estimation. Lite weight, slim, less than an inch wide. A prime backup piece for the majority of American law enforcement.

October 18, 2013, 07:54 AM
The BHP is the slimmest double stack 9mm I've ever carried.

October 18, 2013, 01:37 PM
I have a Nano that I like a lot. But I bought a G26 recently and was surprised to find, that for me, it carries just about as easily as the Nano in an IWB holster. I don't do pocket carry, or the Nano would win, obviously. I love little single-stack 9mm's, but I have discovered bigger pistols aren't as hard to conceal as I expected. Even my G19 will hide just fine with jeans and a t-shirt.

October 18, 2013, 09:40 PM
I chased a few small single stack 9mm's but still my S&W 3913NL works very well for me IWB. I do like carrying the XDS, the trigger is sweet, I just hope Springfield doesn't mess it up with the recall fix. With the XDS in recall I went to carrying my Glock 27 and found it quite easy to carry IWB or OWB for me. Recently discovered a Cross Breed type holster, love them.

October 18, 2013, 10:50 PM
Occasionally carry an LC9 when circumstances dictate something more discrete than the BHP.
Nice pistol.
Tried the Kahr and the Shield, didn't quite do it for me. LC9 does.
Your mileage amy vary.

October 18, 2013, 11:11 PM
I have carried a Glock 26 for 5 years and just recently moved to a Sig 938. It is amazing how such a subtle size difference can translate to a significant perceived increase in ease of every day carry.

I also carry a Kahr P45, Berretta 86 and Colt Defender on occasion as well, however the 938 by far requires the least effort in terms of belt selection, holster selection, and cover garment in order to achieve secure, comfortable carry for me.

So far in my quest for a comfortable EDC, I have also tried the following without the same success: Taurus PT145, S&W CS45, H&K P7 (Expensive experiment :), Glock 19, Walther PPK, AMT Backup .380, and S&W 642.

I've been the most pleased with the Sig 938 and Kahr P45 - For my body type and typical dress, the slimmer firearms seem to carry easiest.

October 18, 2013, 11:48 PM
I tried the Shield but wound with a Kahr CM9 when I want to pocket carry. Very surprised at how accurate the little pistol is.

I had the exact same thing happen... thought I wanted a Shield, got impatient in trying to find one(they just came out at the time), I wanted to try a CW9... well a CM9 was what was in stock, I figured it was for CCW and a smaller gun would be more likely to go with me anywhere... I got a 7rd extended magazine for it(I can't say I really recommend it though... more below) for a full grip if I felt the need.

It's silly accurate. The only upgrade I made was a Trijicon front tritium sight... it's an easy screw-in install and it is worth the $50 or whatever I paid.

I've found that my 7rd extended magazine in my CM9 is ammo sensitive, I'm not too keen on trusting it for self defense. It has a tendency to cause ammo nose-dives into the feed ramp. Some searching on Kahr Forums shows this to be a VERY common problem. 7rd mags are no problem in the CW9s near as I can tell. There are some issues with followers to check if you experience problems, but this is not the case with mine. The 6 rounders are 100% reliable in about 600 rounds between the two that I have. I've got maybe another 50 through the 7rd mag.

I also shoot a Commander size 1911, I was SO impressed with how well I shoot my little CM9(I shoot it just as well/better than my 1911) that I will probably be buying either a TP9 or CW9... or something similar in .40 or .45... not really sure but I REALLY like them now.

That said I've shot an XDS in .45 and it was super tame so I imagine it would be excellent in 9mm.

I have not had problems shooting my CM9 like some others have... I've put 200 rounds through it in about 45-60 min with no real problems, but I have some thick mechanic's hands so maybe that has something to do with it:uhoh: Bonus is that it is relatively tolerable against bare skin if you must carry IWB without an undershirt. Gets uncomfortable sitting for a long period of time in some positions, but I can wear it all day without a problem if I'm up and about. 5'10" 215lbs for reference.

Hopefully some of that is helpful... good luck!

October 19, 2013, 12:13 AM
I have both the Nano and the 938 and both are easy to conceal.

October 20, 2013, 10:42 PM
Size 12 hands, PPQ M2 rocks for winter carry.
G36 in the summer.

October 21, 2013, 04:55 PM
Go to the range and see if they will allow you to shoot a few of them. "Where I shoot, they are good with things like that" especially if you are buying a gun. They even allow me to dump a couple of mags free of charge, when I have done work on a gun, and just want to make sure it works properly. A good gun shop should allow you to try a mag or 2 in a few guns to help you make a choice. As long as you occasionally purchase something.

October 21, 2013, 05:12 PM
I had a LC9 for awhile and like it a lot. I only sold it because I needed the cash. I don't share others' opinions that it was uncomfortable to shoot. It's a subcompact and felt great for what it was... a tiny 9mm pocket concealable pistol.

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