Just ordered a bullet mold from Accurate for my ROA


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AbitNutz
October 23, 2013, 08:36 PM
I just pulled the trigger, so to speak, and ordered a 4 cavity mold from Tom at Accurate Molds. It's the .45-200S. I'll be sending it off to Erik at Hollow Point Mold Service to make it in to one of his inset-bar HP molds. All that should take a few weeks but I'll post the results.

Erik is also going to make a seating jag for my cylinder loader that mirrors the HP of the bullet so it centers and holds it straight. Between that and the heel it should load very easily indeed.

I'm also thinking about changing the front sight on my ROA to a barrel banded ramp with a patridge brass blade. I always liked the way a barrel band sight looked on a revolver. We'll see if it's do-able.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn94/AbitNutz/45-200S-D.png (http://s302.photobucket.com/user/AbitNutz/media/45-200S-D.png.html)

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BowerR64
October 24, 2013, 01:02 AM
I thought the ROA uses a .457 ?

AbitNutz
October 24, 2013, 08:22 AM
They recommend using .457 RB just so it swages tight in the cylinder chambers. The bore diameter is .452 and the actual chambers are .452-.453.

I size soft lead bullets to .455 with really good results. They never jump forward, even under the stiffest loads.

Patocazador
October 24, 2013, 09:03 AM
Have you tried the 200 gr. R.E.A.L. bullet mold from Lee? It shoots good in my ROA.

rodwha
October 24, 2013, 11:24 AM
In case you aren't aware Ruger will send you a replacement sight for a 45 Colt Blackhawk for free. You'll just need to have the pin hole drilled through it.

kBob
October 24, 2013, 12:22 PM
How big a hollow point are you going for?

What will the finished bullet weigh?

Wonder how these would work in replica Remington NMAs.....

Nice looking design. Good luck with it.

I would be tempted to do up a big batch of solid bullets with it before sending off for the Hollow point treatment just to have enough to compare and have a choice in the future. Assuming the guy doing the HP work has no problem working on the molds after they have been used.

-kBob

AbitNutz
October 24, 2013, 01:06 PM
Erik recommended that almost the entire meplat be a HP.

The finished bullet should weigh in about 190 or so with soft lead.

I think it would work in most anything with a .452 or even .454 bore.

I'll let you all know how it proves out with targets and chronograph data. I have a Ransom rest w/windage base and a CED2 that will tell the truth, no matter what.

The BigLube 210 (more like 230) that I had Erik modify to a HP really works very well.

Rattus58
October 24, 2013, 01:33 PM
I just pulled the trigger, so to speak, and ordered a 4 cavity mold from Tom at Accurate Molds. It's the .45-200S. I'll be sending it off to Erik at Hollow Point Mold Service to make it in to one of his inset-bar HP molds. All that should take a few weeks but I'll post the results.

Erik is also going to make a seating jag for my cylinder loader that mirrors the HP of the bullet so it centers and holds it straight. Between that and the heel it should load very easily indeed.

I'm also thinking about changing the front sight on my ROA to a barrel banded ramp with a patridge brass blade. I always liked the way a barrel band sight looked on a revolver. We'll see if it's do-able.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn94/AbitNutz/45-200S-D.png (http://s302.photobucket.com/user/AbitNutz/media/45-200S-D.png.html)
Why on earth would you want to make it a hollow point?

AbitNutz
October 24, 2013, 06:22 PM
I like hollow points.

rodwha
October 24, 2013, 06:31 PM
With as well as RB's seem to expand I wonder if a HP design really helps or makes it mushroom further.

I'd actually like to see you do a test if you can. FN against modified HP's for an expansion/penetration test.

I figured a wide flat nose would help a light weight bullet expand much sooner and wider than a RB would. And with the greater sectional density ought to penetrate deeper.

Rattus58
October 24, 2013, 06:38 PM
I like hollow points.
Hehe.... well I was kinda of that opinion.. but in this application my question is still why. If you are going hunting with it, you won't gain benefit and in fact will lose penetrating potential probably. At the target range with an almost square bullet, you're almost at roundball proportions and as such I can't see at pistol ranges... this is (I can't... a limiting factor surely) I don't know that you could get more accuracy from what would be I think fairly accurate going in.

Just curious... if you have given any other thought to this... :D :cool:

AbitNutz
October 24, 2013, 06:50 PM
Soft lead with a very large HP does expand quite well when pushed to upwards of 1000 fps. It also gives a lighter bullet for a given length. I have gotten very good accuracy, low recoil and big friggin' holes with no leading at all using bullets like this.

...and I like hollow points.

Dframe
November 1, 2013, 03:01 PM
Thats a REAL nice looking bullet! I wouldn't mind having one but wouldn't want the extra hassle of hollowpointing it. Just give me the bullet.

BowerR64
November 1, 2013, 11:53 PM
This bullet might be fun to try shooting upside down also.

The guy who made the conicals for me said he shoots them both ways in his loads.

Shooting them backwards puts a sweet hole in the paper like heavy wad cutters.

Dont know how yours will work with the hollow part in the back but with the one he made for me is simmilar to a ball on one side.

BowerR64
November 2, 2013, 10:59 AM
I loaded some up in my shooter today with some swiss (i dont know why) never used swiss before not sure why i decided it was a good time to try it and put the conical upside down as well :confused:


Anyway ill post some results when i get back later.

Rattus58
November 2, 2013, 02:00 PM
I loaded some up in my shooter today with some swiss (i dont know why) never used swiss before not sure why i decided it was a good time to try it and put the conical upside down as well :confused:


Anyway ill post some results when i get back later.
Well the swiss are in a different time zone..

Rattus58
November 2, 2013, 02:12 PM
With as well as RB's seem to expand I wonder if a HP design really helps or makes it mushroom further.

I'd actually like to see you do a test if you can. FN against modified HP's for an expansion/penetration test.

I figured a wide flat nose would help a light weight bullet expand much sooner and wider than a RB would. And with the greater sectional density ought to penetrate deeper.
Well I can see two possibility.... one is more weight with the flat nose... thus... Two is more weight forward in the bullet... and a COHESIVE penetration... are what I would call observations from the burrow...

AbitNutz
November 2, 2013, 07:10 PM
I received my mold from Accurate Friday the 29th. I ordered it on Saturday the 23rd...yee that was fast. It dropped from the mold in soft lead at .455 and 200 grains on the button...just what I asked for.

I was able to shoot it today. I loaded it with 35, 40 and 45 grains of Triple 7. Accuracy was as good as my BigLube bullets....and that's pretty good. It didn't seem to care how much T7 I used. The 45 grain loads were just as accurate as the 35's.

After 10 full cylinders I experienced no leading or problems. No jams, jumping forward or misfires.

I did try the Remington #11's I managed to find. They fit the Slix Shot nipples better and while not as powerful as the RWS caps, I think I prefer them. They worked just fine and seem to produce less shrapnel.

I made a modification to my cylinder loader that really works well. I made an adjustable ram stop that makes sure every bullet is seated to the same depth. It also ensures that I don't over compress the T7 powder stack, which is really fluffy.

Next, the mold is off to Erik at Hollow point Mold Service...Erik has modded two previous molds for me with excellent results.

Once I get it back, I swear I'm going to chrono the loads with my CED2 and use my Ransom rest and we'll see exactly what the velocities are and how accurate. The only video cam I have is my Android Note 2....meh, I've seen worse on YouTube. Maybe I'll try it.

BowerR64
November 2, 2013, 09:46 PM
Here is my results with the conical and swiss 19g

First i shot it in upside down and WOW those are some hella holes! some one asked me if i was shooting a 50 cal!

Even though they were in backwards i about put 3 bullets into the same hole!

Then i reloaded it and shot them again but the correct way, again 19g swiss.

i put 4 bullets in the same hole! Everyone says conicals arnt as accurate as balls but man im having some darn good luck with mine.

My front sight is still a little to short i guess or i need to change my load to get POI closer to my POA but im still shocked on how close im putting a few of these shots.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=190719&stc=1&d=1383443155

6 shots upside down, then 6 right side up

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