California Grassroots Group Launches Colorado-Style Recalls


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Midwest
October 24, 2013, 07:13 PM
California Grassroots Group Launches Colorado-Style Recalls


I think this goes here, if not then mods please move to the right section. Looks like gun owners in California are following their counterparts in Colorado. Gun Owners of California is mounting a recall effort from San Diego to all the way through Northern California. Good Luck to our friends in California...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/24/Colorado-Style-Recalls-Launch-On-October-24-In-CA

"The recalls are being announced "for potential targeted seats from San Diego along the border, up to Orange County, to the Central Valley, all the way up to Northern California."

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ChaoSS
October 24, 2013, 08:24 PM
Good luck. Us CA gun owners can't seem to unite for anything. I am in one of the few places that has (mostly) pro gun representatives, so I'm out for the voting, but I wish them good luck.

Kiln
October 24, 2013, 09:05 PM
The majority of California is so liberal that they'll never get the votes to oust them.

Librarian
October 24, 2013, 10:54 PM
The effort has some obstacles.

Here is the procedure (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/recalls/procedure-for-recalls.htm) to do a recall, per the Secretary of State.

First, only the voters in the challenged legislator's district get to vote in the recall election; they are the ones who can have valid signatures.

The number of valid signatures "must equal at least twenty percent (20%) of the last vote for the office."

Once the petition is approved, the campaigners have 160 days to get and submit the signatures.

Hard, but might be do-able. Signature-gathering is an industry in CA.

Then, if enough signatures are submitted, "An election to determine whether to recall an officer and, if appropriate, to elect a successor, shall be called by the Governor and held not less than 60 days nor more than 80 days from the date of certification of sufficient signatures. "

An election on its own could be a useful result, regardless of the success or failure of the actual recall. Defending against such an election will take time and resources, and may possibly influence legislative behavior in that district and others in the future.

But that's probably the best result (I'd be happy if more could be achieved).

I'll go ahead and speculate that the organizers have carefully picked their recall targets. But in general, CA voters in the most recent elections were quite decisive; the vote results for State Senator and Assembly are linked at this SOS page (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2012-general/).

In my opinion, it seems unlikely that voters who elected a candidate with a good majority simply would not vote to oust that candidate.

California does not yet have a large enough 'throw them all out' movement to actually replace legislators with others who would vote much differently.

ArtP
October 25, 2013, 03:11 AM
The trouble with California is the voting public. Most people in CA get their gun info from movies and have never handled a gun. People like to blame politicians for wanting to take control and remove guns from our hands.

The fact is, reelection forces politicians to do what the voting public wants -- I think most politicians could care less about guns. The voting public wants our guns removed, plain and simple. There's a reason DiFi gets reelected over and over.

I really should make that comment about state representatives, not federal ones. But you get the idea.

danez71
October 25, 2013, 08:39 PM
The trouble with California is the voting public. Most people in CA get their gun info from movies and have never handled a gun. People like to blame politicians for wanting to take control and remove guns from our hands.

The fact is, reelection forces politicians to do what the voting public wants -- I think most politicians could care less about guns. The voting public wants our guns removed, plain and simple. There's a reason DiFi gets reelected over and over.

I really should make that comment about state representatives, not federal ones. But you get the idea.

This is where my opinion differs from yours.

IMO, the CA politicians don't do what the voting public wants. They just say what the public wants to hear.

"Do it for the children" "Safe" and "Fair" are all buzz words/phrases that people like to hear.

A loose example is Antonio Villaraigosa (last LA Mayor) promised in his campaigns that he would fix the pot holes. He was the Mayor for 8?? yrs and didn't do jack for filling pot holes. Even the LA Times noted it. LA was again listed as having some of the worse condition streets for a major city.

But when he said he would in his campaigns.... "I will fill all the pot holes so that our children will have better and safer streets and the current drivers will stop incurring un-fair car repair bills from our deteriorating streets".

Then a photo-op of him shoveling some asphalt.


Anyways.... I think Librarians assessment is about spot on.

ArtP
October 27, 2013, 03:38 AM
Danez,

I sort of agree with you.... BUT

Politicians make promises they may not have the money to fulfill. Potholes, as you raised. But that's a different subject as every politician would fill potholes if they had the money to do so.

But new crime/public safety bills generally do not need money after they pass the budget committee.

When politicians vote on gun bills, they do not necessarily need a budget or money to pass, they appear to be all too happy to vote with the public to ban "this or that", on the majorities behalf. There is little or no money necessary to pass such bills after they pass the budget committee.

I find it is what the public wants. The public here finds guns evil, plain and simple. We're never going to have representatives on our side until the voting public wants us to keep our guns. With the demographics in CA, a pro gun public is miles away.

Ryanxia
October 29, 2013, 09:52 AM
Regardless of their chances everyone should be supportive and encouraging of their efforts. Every effort reminds others that there's still a fight left in CA. The only other option is to roll over, which is not what America does.

Good luck folks in CA!

Pistola
October 31, 2013, 12:37 PM
Well said Ryanxia.

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