List of .45 ACP powders


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bainter1212
October 28, 2013, 09:05 AM
Hey y'all,

I was at a gun store this weekend looking for powder to load some .45acp with. I had previously been using Unique but had run out recently. The first gun store (a "big box" ) had no powder of any kind in stock.
At a smaller shop down the street, a very helpful young gentleman, when I asked for pistol powder, pulled out some oddball stuff that wasn't in any of my manuals. When I saw what they were priced at, the young man could clearly see the dismay on my face.
After a moment's consideration, he pulled out a pound of Titewad and said "I think you can use this for .45acp". I said " shotgun powder?"

He got onto the Hogdon website and sure enough, you can use Titewad to load slow plinking loads for .45acp. Perfect. And this powder was way cheaper than the other stuff.

The goal of this post is.......

Can a list of powders that can be used for .45acp be compiled in one place? Does such a list already exist and if so, where?

In times of shortage, as we are currently experiencing, a big list of alternative powders would be helpful to a lot of people. I know that if that helpful young man had not known that I could use shotgun powder for my pistol loads, I would've walked away disappointed from that shop.

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yamahawarrior89
October 28, 2013, 09:12 AM
3. Hodgdon Titewad*
4. Accurate Nitro 100*
5. Alliant Bullseye*
6. Accurate Solo 1000*
7. Scot Red Diamond*
8. Alliant Red Dot*
9. Alliant Promo*
10. Hodgdon Titegroup*
11. Accurate No. 2*
12. Alliant American Select*
13. Winchester AA Plus*
14. Hodgdon Clays*
15. Vihta Vuori N320*
16. Ramshot Competition*
17. Scot Royal D*
18. Winchester WST*
19. Hodgdon HP38*
20. Winchester 452AA*
21. Scot 453*
22. Winchester 231*
23. Ramshot Zip*
24. IMR 700X*
25. Alliant Green Dot*
26. Hodgdon Int. Clays*
27. Vihta Vuori N330*
28. IMR PB*
29. Accurate No. 5*
30. Scot Pearl*
31. Winchester 473AA*
32. Hodgdon HS-5*
33. Winchester WSL*
34. Alliant Unique*
35. Hodgdon Univ. Clays*
36. Alliant Power Pistol*
37. IMR SR-7625*
38. Hodgdon HS-6*
39. Ramshot Silhouette*
40. Winchester WAP*
41. Vihta Vuori N340*
42. Winchester 540*
43. Alliant Herco*
44. Winchester WSF*
45. IMR SR-4756*
46. Scot Solo 1250*
47. Vihta Vuori 3N37*
48. IMR 800X*
49. Accurate No. 7*
50. Hodgdon Longshot*
51. Scot Solo 1500*
52. Ramshot True Blue*
53. Vihta Vuori N350*
54. Vihta Vuori 3N38*
55. Hodgdon HS-7*
56. Alliant Blue Dot*
57. Winchester 571*
58. Vihta Vuori N105

warhwkbb
October 28, 2013, 09:42 AM
yup!

Walkalong
October 28, 2013, 09:42 AM
Some of those slower ones are not particularly suitable. Any good manual will give you a good idea of which powders are suitable. After that go to the powder sites and look at their data.

Anything from #1 (Fastest) to around 44, 45, 46 ish could be made to "work".

Maybe folks could shout out their favorite .45 ACP powder(s). That would give you lots of choices right there.

Here are a couple.

AA #2, AA #5, N310, N320, N340, Unique, Solo 1000, Zip, WST, W-231.....

bainter1212
October 28, 2013, 09:44 AM
Wow....I love this site.

That list is exactly what the doctor ordered!

Thanks guys.

cfullgraf
October 28, 2013, 10:14 AM
Western Powders has data for True Blue and Accurate #7 in 45 ACP.

I feel there are better powders for 45 ACP, but data is available for these.

yamahawarrior89
October 28, 2013, 10:30 AM
I agree that there are much better powders than the ones towards the end of the list. But they will work, but probably leave unburnt powder, dirty, and maybe loss of accuracy. But they will work and function a gun. That would be longshot, accurate #7, blue dot. I have used them but they usually don't clean up until max charges or past them

ArchAngelCD
October 28, 2013, 11:05 AM
The most used powders for loading the 45 Auto from my experience are:
AA#2, AA#5, Bullseye, Unique, Red Dot, Clays, HP-38/W231, Universal, AutoComp, WST, Zip and probably a few VV powders I have no knowledge of.

The above suggestion you consult a good load manual is a very good one.

918v
October 28, 2013, 11:41 AM
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Etc.

ArchAngelCD
October 28, 2013, 11:55 AM
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Bullseye
Etc.
That's all well and good and I can say:
W231
W231
W231
W231
Ect.
BUT, the OP said the local dealers have no powder, especially Unique which is what he uses so he wanted a list of possible powders he can use in case he finds a store with any powder on the shelf at all.

Foto Joe
October 28, 2013, 12:29 PM
Unfortunately I also got caught shall we say "with my pants down" this last spring when I returned from Texas. Since it's next to impossible to shoot where I was in Texas I didn't even take any reloading equipment with me. As a consequence I wasn't quite as aware of how bad the supply problem had really gotten until I got back home and started shooting again.

I had gotten in a rut and pretty much only loaded 45ACP with only Universal but I had played a little with TrailBoss which does work pretty good. But when you combine it with cast boolits and home made lube don't expect to get a thousand rounds between cleanings.

The experience this last summer has taught me that there are numerous powders that are suitable for 45ACP. Currently I'm kinda fond of AutoComp.

bainter1212
October 28, 2013, 12:50 PM
I dont know how bad the situation is where you all are, but here in Northern CA powder is almost impossible to find. I found the Tightwad while visiting a friend in Reno. I bought it because it is affordable. If I had gone with the more expensive powder it would've put my costs real close to factory ammo costs.

I don't care if it shoots slow or dirty.....I just want to put affordable rounds down range.

sauer1911
October 28, 2013, 02:37 PM
I could only get IMR700x in the beginning. 8#! Worked awesome for .45acp.
As time went on, I got some Winchester super target, hogdon titegroup, and some autocomp! 8# each! I good for over 40,000 rounds of ammo!

So far these are the ones I use. Look around online for powder, purchase it by the 8#"keg", along with primers to offset the $27 hazmat charge that UPS
Charges. Funny $27 to handle powder and primers, but they still just toss it
On your front porch, no signature.


Be safe

ArchAngelCD
October 28, 2013, 03:12 PM
I dont know how bad the situation is where you all are, but here in Northern CA powder is almost impossible to find. I found the Tightwad while visiting a friend in Reno. I bought it because it is affordable. If I had gone with the more expensive powder it would've put my costs real close to factory ammo costs.

I don't care if it shoots slow or dirty.....I just want to put affordable rounds down range.
Be careful with Titewad and handgun cartridges. I'm not sure about now but originally Hodgdon strongly recommended against using Titewad in handgun cartridges. Titegruop is a different story.

bainter1212
October 28, 2013, 03:20 PM
Be careful with Titewad and handgun cartridges. I'm not sure about now but originally Hodgdon strongly recommended against using Titewad in handgun cartridges. Titegruop is a different story.

Thanks.

They do publish data for Titewad in .45acp on their website.....I may call them anyway to see if there are any disclaimers I should know about. I will check for excessive buildup or fouling as well when I get around to shooting it.

ljnowell
October 28, 2013, 03:53 PM
AA#2 is IMO the best all around. Super fine ball that meters wonderfully, burns clean, doesnt scorch cases like titegroup, and has made some very accurate loads for me.

Sauer Grapes
October 28, 2013, 07:39 PM
I don't see Clays on that list. Makes dandy light target loads with LSWC.

Miata Mike
October 28, 2013, 10:12 PM
WST is all I now use for .45acp.

TfflHndn
October 28, 2013, 10:14 PM
Clays is there at #14. And I agree it is a good powder for soft shooting light to medium loads. I like red and green dots a lot, myself.

ColtPythonElite
October 28, 2013, 10:26 PM
Unique for lead. Power Pistol for jacketed.

KansasSasquatch
October 28, 2013, 10:33 PM
5, 8, 22, 34, 48, 50, 52. Are my favorites. Bullseye works okay and I certainly wouldn't mind having some on my shelf but I like a fuller case than Bullseye allows. I don't like 800X at all except that it fills the case pretty well. I have 8lbs of Longshot but unfortunately I haven't had the chance to find a good load for it yet. My first couple test loads with Longshot were terrible, only the loads I've tried with 800X have been worse. I love True Blue for "full house" .45acp but don't like it in .45acp other than that. When the "shortage" gets better I have a few more I'd like to try like Universal Clays, AA#5, and Power Pistol. I may be trying WST and AutoComp here soon, found a place with some in stock, hopefully it's still there when get back by there.

Comrade Mike
October 28, 2013, 10:35 PM
titegroup for a a nice clean shooting load

Mohave-Tec
October 28, 2013, 11:10 PM
This is the only powder I've ever used for any pistol loading and it is likely, at 8 lbs (6 pounds still remaining) that it will be the only powder I use for the rest of my life, LOL. It is a terrific powder but seems to be hard to find in the stores these days. :rolleyes:

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp230/igonator/WAPsmall_zpse63d09cb.jpg (http://s414.photobucket.com/user/igonator/media/WAPsmall_zpse63d09cb.jpg.html)

KansasSasquatch
October 29, 2013, 01:26 AM
This is the only powder I've ever used for any pistol loading and it is likely, at 8 lbs (6 pounds still remaining) that it will be the only powder I use for the rest of my life, LOL. It is a terrific powder but seems to be hard to find in the stores these days. :rolleyes:

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp230/igonator/WAPsmall_zpse63d09cb.jpg (http://s414.photobucket.com/user/igonator/media/WAPsmall_zpse63d09cb.jpg.html)
You may already know this but if you run out just look for Ramshot Silhouette. Supposedly it's the same powder packaged in a different company's jug.

Mohave-Tec
October 29, 2013, 06:23 AM
Ramshot has a little more flash suppressants in it but you use the same load data.

Vodoun da Vinci
October 29, 2013, 07:18 AM
It's Alliant Unique for me in everything I load. I'm simple that way except that Unique doesn't want to measure/dispense consistently but you get used to that after a while.

VooDoo

horseman1
October 29, 2013, 12:08 PM
I've used Bullseye, WST, W231 and Clays and liked them all in 45.

I also used Longshot once, but found I needed to load it up near the Max load for decent performance in the 45 ACP. Now I save the Longshot for 40 S&W JHP loads.

ArthurE
October 29, 2013, 12:47 PM
I assembled my first cartridge in 1969, my first .45 ACP in '81.
I've used Bullseye,Win 231, Unique, HS-6, IMR 700X and VV N340 and had good results with all.
I like the VV and Hodgdon powders because they fill more of the case and it's easier to see the powder level in the case.

Gamer
October 29, 2013, 01:26 PM
I like VV n320, Bullseye, Titegroup. I wouldn't have normally bought the VV N320 but come into a large quanity buying a press. I have since learned to love it. Funny how things work sometimes.

Lj1941
October 29, 2013, 05:43 PM
W 231/HP 38, Titegroup or Red Dot for lead. Power Pistol & Titegroup for jacketed/plated works for me.:)

Hondo 60
October 29, 2013, 06:01 PM
I use Tite Group or Accurate #5.

I've also used Universal.

Potatohead
October 29, 2013, 06:25 PM
Walkalongs right about the manuals and the chart numbers.

I was going to make caliber lists once, and shrugged that same advice off, and spent way to much time trying to compile a list of some sort. I found myself going in a big circle eventually, and found that the best "list" is found in the data of the manuals.

Hell, it started feeling like I could find 75 powders for every caliber if I looked far enough, but many are not perfectly suited i guess, so in the end it just kept coming back to the 12 or 15 powders (or whatever number) that kept popping up in the manuals.

cfullgraf
October 29, 2013, 06:52 PM
700-X has been my main 45 ACP powder since 1980.

I have good loads for Accurate #5 and Unique so that I have back ups when I cannot find 700-X.

There are other good powders for 45 ACP as well.

mstreddy
October 29, 2013, 07:57 PM
For me, Win 231/HP38, WST, and will be playing with Promo in a couple of weeks.

trooks
October 29, 2013, 08:06 PM
I love Universal for my 45 and 40. It gives me the most accurate charges with my Lee auto disk powder drop. I believe it's the texture of the powder. If I set it for 5.7 grains that's what I consistently get. Here in Southeastern N.C. powder supplies are getting better but not for Universal. Gun show coming up this weekend , hope I find it there. Only have about 1.5 pounds left.

ole farmerbuck
October 29, 2013, 08:46 PM
I'll probably continue using 231/hp38 since I just found two more 4lb jugs of 231 in my cabinet after buying an 8lb jug of hp38. Gotta do some sorting!

ArchAngelCD
October 30, 2013, 12:49 AM
It's Alliant Unique for me in everything I load. I'm simple that way except that Unique doesn't want to measure/dispense consistently but you get used to that after a while.

VooDoo
Why should anyone have to get used to anything when there are so many good choices out there? IMO Unique is so popular because at one time it was one of the only games in town. Now it's only one of many dozens.

TrueTexan
October 30, 2013, 07:27 PM
When the great shortage hit I was not prepared and ran low on bullseye but I came across some Red Dot, Green Dot and Blue for the low power magnums and the Dots seem to be cleaner burning. Red Dot loads almost identical to Bullseye. Green Dot loads are just about 1 grain less than Unique loads. Also found many reloaders didn't know that you could use these powders for handguns, so the powders were available.

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