How can Taurus put out something so wrong?


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OC_
October 28, 2013, 11:31 PM
We all know that Taurus is not exactly the highest quality brand, but their wheel guns are of a solid design. Unfortunately, it seems that too often their execution i just so flawed.

I bought a Tracker a few months ago in .17HMR. I thought that would be a cool little plinker. I finally got to take it out yesterday only to find that the head spacing must be off. Every round gets the bottle neck blown out and looks like my crudely drawn picture. A lot of them split as well and make extraction difficult.

I dont know if taurus is going to fix this if I send it back. I hear a lot of bad things about their customer service.

Funny thing, when I got this gun, I noticed that it seemed like it had been shot quite a bit from the factory -More than a single test firing. I wonder if they were debating on selling this junk or scraping it.

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ole farmerbuck
October 28, 2013, 11:33 PM
Mine did the same thing. Sent it back and they 'fixed' it by doing nothing! I think it had a 22mag cylinder instead of a 17hmr. Got rid of it.

TennJed
October 29, 2013, 12:43 AM
interesting. I am considering this gun (happy with my 2 other Taurus revolver purchases)

OC_
October 29, 2013, 09:28 AM
It's definitely not a 22 mag cylinder. I can look into it and see a profile for the 17hmr. Plus the holes on the other side are 17 Cal sized. It just looks like the chambers are a little too deeply cut into the cylinder, so the neck of the cartridge is not supported.

What a mess. The gun clearly needs a new cylinder. Plus, I seem to get very light strikes and hang fires... what a fool I was getting this.

KSCCHTrainer
October 29, 2013, 11:40 AM
OC,
Taurus has a lifetime warranty on their guns. The gun, not the owner and it does NOT matter how many owners it has had before you. Look 'em up on the internet and contact their customer service department in Florida. I'll bet they'll fix it for free. (you might have to pay shipping to them initially).

OC_
October 29, 2013, 01:29 PM
I hope your right. I guess it's the only real option I have..

MrBorland
October 29, 2013, 02:15 PM
Bottleneck cartridges in a revolver frequently suffer from this problem. I would think rimfire cases would be especially vulnerable to this because of the relatively thin brass. It's just a bad idea to begin with.

rcmodel
October 29, 2013, 02:21 PM
I think Taurus chambers them that way on purpose.

I have seen it come up in THR threads before.
And I saw it in a magazine gun test when they were first introduced.


It could be done to decrease chamber pressure and make cycling & extraction possible.

As MrBorland mentioned, to combat the bottle-neck case setting back in the chamber and locking up the cylinder from turning.

In either case, I don't think Taurus is going to do anything about it if you do send it in.

rc

ole farmerbuck
October 29, 2013, 03:01 PM
OC,
Taurus has a lifetime warranty on their guns. The gun, not the owner and it does NOT matter how many owners it has had before you. Look 'em up on the internet and contact their customer service department in Florida. I'll bet they'll fix it for free. (you might have to pay shipping to them initially).
Like I said, I sent mine to them after 3 days of owning it. I sent them fired cases showing them what they looked like. They sent it back after what they called fixing it and it was the same thing all over. I had a heck of a time getting the empties out of the cylinder after only two or three rounds. They did nothing to the gun to help in any way. I'm done with them.

MrBorland
October 29, 2013, 05:26 PM
I don't think Taurus is going to do anything about it if you do send it in.

I doubt they'll be able to do anything about it, short of swapping in a .22 cylinder & barrel. It's not the execution, but the design that's the problem.

I had a bud who wanted to bore out his .357 charge holes to accept moonclipped .357sig rounds, thinking it'd be the ticket for über-fast reloads (big hole/small bullet). He was quickly told by a number of excellent wheelgunners & gunsmiths to forget it, even if mild handloads were used. Bottleneck cartridges and revolvers just don't mix.

wally
October 29, 2013, 07:23 PM
I think Taurus chambers them that way on purpose.

I have seen it come up in THR threads before.
And I saw it in a magazine gun test when they were first introduced.


It could be done to decrease chamber pressure and make cycling & extraction possible.


This. Its not like damaging the .17HMR brass will hinder your reloading it. If it fires reliable, the empties extract, and the accuracy is reasonable be happy with what you've got as its likely working correctly.

Bottleneck cartridges and revolvers just don't mix.
Even tapered cases like 9mm can have extraction problems with hot loads in revolvers.

Lucky Derby
October 30, 2013, 03:56 AM
While I am not a Taurus fan, it's a design issue, not a quality issue. The gun is working as well as can be expected. Bottleneck cartridge in a revolver. It just doesn't work well.

Willie Sutton
October 30, 2013, 05:40 AM
See Smith & Wesson Model 53 and the .22 Jet cartridge: It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now.

Taurus actually figured it out a bit better than S&W, but still...


Willie

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BSA1
October 30, 2013, 01:36 PM
If you will do a search you will find two posts about issues I am having with 22 Mag. Revolver.

The original gun was so bad they replaced it with a new one. I am still undecided about the replacement. It shoots very accurately with some brands and minute of trash can with others.

My main complaint is the fired brass sticks in the chamber.

I have not made up my mind yet on whether it's a keeper. Thanks to our very successful gun salesman Caesar I have not been able to shoot ammunition made specially for short barrel revolvers. Until I can do so I am keeping the gun.

Taurus will pay the shipping on the gun. All you are out is a telephone call to them and dropping it off at Fed-Ex.

MICHAEL T
October 30, 2013, 03:00 PM
I had a PT-22 was lite strikes take several hits to fire . Didn't matter brand of ammo. I sent it in 2 times for repair come back with a sheet saying polished feed ramp. Still had lite strikes problem. Has a 38 spl at 50' shooting from bench rest would not hit a B-27 target. Their great junk . More fun to just toss money in street and watch people fight over it.

Jaymo
October 30, 2013, 09:49 PM
How could they put out something so wrong?
Easy. Have you seen the Tupperware model 85?
Hideous.

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