Gunstore/Shooting ranges and CC


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Atticus
March 26, 2004, 08:07 PM
I have a question for those of you who live in states that have enjoyed concealed carry for awhile. All of the gun stores around here have strict rules about bringing uncased and/or loaded guns in the store, including those with indoor shooting ranges. I'm wondering if they will still have that policy,or a similar one, next month when CCW becomes legal (in regard to concealed and holstered weapons). It's gotta be a tough call for them. It wouldn't look too good for them to have a "no guns" sign at the door....and yet they don't want yahoos walking in with loaded guns in hand either. How have your indoor ranges/gun stores handled that situation? "No unholstered and/or uncased guns allowed" perhaps?

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XavierBreath
March 26, 2004, 08:17 PM
Concealed means concealed.

If it's concealed, the policy is irrelevant unless they have the legal right to forbid concealed carry (which may be the case, check the law once passed.)

Josey
March 26, 2004, 10:10 PM
My favourite shop simply has a barrel of sand out front. They allow weapons, UNLOADED! The rule is applied fairly. I tend to spend more at that shop also. They provide CCW courses. The family just doesn't want a crossfire situation to develop. ALL of their employees have openly carried in the store. Employees are the only ones they want to shoot if it comes down to it. They HAVE in the past. The owner has tactics and strategies and points to cover pre-arranged each day with the employees. I am comfortable having a cup of coffee, reading a magazine and waiting for a 4473 to clear. No complaints. Most other shops are not as well trained or secure.

LiquidTension
March 27, 2004, 12:14 AM
One of the local shops here in town has a sign that says, "Absolutely no handling or displaying of any firearm outside the range. All firearms must be unloaded or in a case/holster at all times." The wording isn't exact, but you get the idea. There is nothing about carrying concealed in the store, and many of the employees there know I do and have never said anything. Even if they meant for the sign to mean you couldn't carry inside even with a CWP, the sign does not meet the legal requirements for a sign of that nature in this state and is therefore irrelevant.

My point is that you need to either A) ask the store owner or 2) check the law once it is enacted.

goalie
March 27, 2004, 12:41 AM
The range I went to today just says that carry weapons need to be in a holster. You are allowed to take it out at the line.

bpisler
March 27, 2004, 01:09 AM
The local range where i used to shoot has a barrel of sand to clear your gun at.Their policy is no carrying of loaded firearms in the store.I used to just drop the mag out of my glock and put it in my pocket and reholster the gun.

ke6guj
March 27, 2004, 02:37 AM
Turner's in CA has posted at the door that all firearms must be unloaded and shown at the front counter. Underneath that is smaller print stating that LEO's and CCW are exempt, however loaded weapons must remain holstered.

Not bad for CA where CCW is rare.

edited for spelling

Standing Wolf
March 27, 2004, 05:51 PM
Gun shops that want my dollars respect my civil rights.

GigaBuist
March 27, 2004, 09:13 PM
One local shop as a sign "CCW welcome!" I like them guys!

The other has no signs, and an indoor range. Carrying is fine, but the weapon can't leave the holster until you're at the firing line in the range. No problems there either. I've seen guys come in and pull their CCW piece at the line.

Both shops are very pro-carry it seems. They get plenty of my money.

blades67
March 27, 2004, 10:10 PM
There is a sign by the door of the shop I work for that reads "Unload all firearms." It isn't a matter of not respecting a customer's Right to Bear Arms, it is a matter of safety. If you don't agree I'll come to your workplace a few times a week and point loaded guns at you. This happened twice this week and once last week, just on the days that I was working and may have happened more than that. Not everyone that is carrying a gun has thought it all the way through.

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