Beretta 93r availability?


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el Godfather
November 18, 2013, 10:42 PM
Dear THR:
I would like to know where in the 'world' would one be able to find Beretta 93r for sale. I have checked Italian market and found nothing. Any ideas?

Thank you

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Sam Cade
November 19, 2013, 08:25 AM
I believe I have read that there are 12 transferable 93r pistols in the United States, plus the one titanium framed machinists special.

el Godfather
November 22, 2013, 12:57 AM
I believe I have read that there are 12 transferable 93r pistols in the United States, plus the one titanium framed machinists special.
Thank you.
However, I am interested in availability in Europe.

The ones in the US, how do find the owners and make them offer, and are they exportable out of the US to EU?

mljdeckard
November 22, 2013, 01:58 AM
It's more likely you would only see the ones that are for sale. (If ever.) If G-18s are going for north of $20k, I would suggest 93Rs are even more rare and exclusive.

pikid89
November 22, 2013, 06:17 AM
-Godfather, in the US there are classified adds for NFA Items, as well as dealers that can deal in these types of items.

here is one of them

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/

forindooruseonly
November 30, 2013, 12:35 PM
Exports not going to happen.

As far as finding owners, that is impossible until one shows off or places it for sale. You cannot check the registry, so to speak. If you knew what the serial numbers were of the 93Rs, it still wouldn't help. If you file a FOIA claim about specific firearms in the registry, they'll redact all relevant information about ownership.

Your best bet is to contact the big dealers, they tend to have lots of connections and might know someone who knows someone... Word of mouth gets around in the NFA community, especially among the MG collectors, probably because it is such a small world. However, that's not going to help you in Italy if that's the market you're in.

Have you contacted Beretta themselves? If you're in Italy and you have the political connections you've alluded to, then that's the obvious place to start.

Prince Yamato
December 5, 2013, 12:46 AM
Beretta Italy stopped making them in the late 80s. I think your best bet would be to check a gun store in a country that allows ownership of full-autos. Switzerland and Czech Republic come to mind. Then, have the gun transferred to wherever you buy your guns in Italy.

hq
December 5, 2013, 06:02 AM
Then, have the gun transferred to wherever you buy your guns in Italy.

In Europe guns don't have to be transferred anywhere - you can buy a gun from a dealer or private individual any EU country and have it shipped directly to your door. All you need is copies of purchase and transfer permits, which (for the most part) are easy to obtain.

93R:s (like Glock 18:s, Micro Uzis etc.) used to be somewhat common in Finland in the 90's, but I haven't seen one for sale in years. Collectors seem to have bought them by now and few are willing to part with theirs. I looked for one for quite a while and finally gave up. They're rare.

el Godfather
December 5, 2013, 02:26 PM
Thank you guys.

The hunt continues.

Prince Yamato
December 9, 2013, 12:53 AM
In Europe guns don't have to be transferred anywhere - you can buy a gun from a dealer or private individual any EU country and have it shipped directly to your door. All you need is copies of purchase and transfer permits, which (for the most part) are easy to obtain.

93R:s (like Glock 18:s, Micro Uzis etc.) used to be somewhat common in Finland in the 90's, but I haven't seen one for sale in years. Collectors seem to have bought them by now and few are willing to part with theirs. I looked for one for quite a while and finally gave up. They're rare.

Better food, better beer, AND you can get machine guns shipped right to your door! I need to move to Europe... :D

el Godfather
December 10, 2013, 06:26 PM
But not a decent steak! Stay where you are. Ain't no place like the good ole USA. Trust me.

LeonCarr
December 10, 2013, 07:51 PM
Sam Cade,

When you mentioned the Titanium framed Machinist's Special, did you mean the 93R that was modified into Robocop's sidearm?

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

ogree
December 12, 2013, 09:22 PM
A true Beretta 93R is a restricted nfa item. Only LE, Military or an NFA dealer can posses one as they were imported as a select fire pistol. I don't think I have ever run across a transferable 93R and have only known 1 dealer who had a real Beretta 93R.

Prince Yamato
December 16, 2013, 01:00 AM
There are a couple in the NFA registry (I think they number 12, including the Titanium-framed one).

The OP is in Europe though, so he can get a NIB Beretta 93.

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