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roper031495
November 29, 2013, 03:45 PM
I'm looking to buy a 45 1911 but i dont want to pay 1,000 + for a big name brand i have been looking at either an ATI, Rock Island, or a Citidel but i cant find any reviews on them. Does anyone have one of these three and how do u like them?

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19-3Ben
November 29, 2013, 03:49 PM
You say you don't want to spend $1000 but all the guns you mention are in the $500 range. What's your actual Budget? There's a lot between $500 and $1000. That said the ones you have mentioned, especially the RIA have a good rep.

PJSprog
November 29, 2013, 04:36 PM
19-3Ben is right. You can get many offerings from "big name brands" for under $1000.

I have an RIA Tactical .45, and like it a lot. Paid under $500 for it, with Pachmayr American Legend grip.

jhop73
November 29, 2013, 04:41 PM
I picked up a Kimber Custom II this summer for $689 new. i have put around 1000 rounds thru it without a problem. i did add a set of Mepro light night sights but otherwise it is stock.

Hunterdad
November 29, 2013, 04:43 PM
I have a Rock Island Match and love it. Pretty sure I paid $550 or so for it. It's a lot of gun for the money.

bds
November 29, 2013, 05:37 PM
I'm looking to buy a 45 1911 but i dont want to pay 1,000 + for a big name brand i have been looking at either an ATI, Rock Island, or a Citidel but i cant find any reviews on them.
Here's one review THR's sister website did on RIA Tactical - http://www.shootingreviews.com/rock-island-armory-1911a1/
Conclusion: would I recommend this to someone looking for a first 1911?

Absolutely. This was reliable, accurate, reasonably full featured, affordable, and ... if you’re looking for a reliable and affordable 1911 I have no qualms with recommending this pistol.


Does anyone have one of these three and how do u like them?
When I was looking for a 1911, I handled and ranged tested various brand pistols and settled on a railed Sig 1911. During my range tests, I got to shoot new RIA Tactical models fresh out of the box and I was impressed. I suggested it to a friend who was looking for an entry level 1911 and he was happy with the purchase.

Since then, we have put 6000+ rounds of various factory and reloads. The RIA Tactical barrel chamber is tapered with wider mouth so it will reliably feed/chamber even sloppy SWC lead reloads and keep on firing when dirty.

As to accuracy, it produces comparable shot groups at 7-10 yards and opens up slightly more at 15-25 yards compared to my Sig 1911. I used Chip McCormick 8 round power mags mostly but the factory magazines have worked well too. Only thing that needed to be replaced since purchase has been the recoil springs and we used Wilson Combat and Wolff Variable Power springs.

orionengnr
November 29, 2013, 06:21 PM
I have a friend who just bought a Ruger SR1911 for $619, and I have seen that same price several times lately.

For my money, I would take the stainless steel, American-made Ruger over any of the Filipino or Turkish 1911s.

And yes, I had one of the Filipino 1911s. Once.

Quick Shot xMLx
November 29, 2013, 06:28 PM
What's your price range? One that I would highly recommend around $700 is the Magnum Research "Desert Eagle" 1911. One of the most underrated 1911s out there and hands down the best trigger in its class. I've put 1k+ rounds through mine without a single failure.

jtsteiert
November 29, 2013, 06:36 PM
Springfield Mil Spec is a awesome $500-$600 gun in my parts... I have one that is by far my favorite, not to fancy that you don't mind changing out parts on yourself. Plus its a great range gun. Hard to go wrong with a Springfield 1911, if you want more fancy but within your limit of under a $1,000.00 look at the range officer, those are around $800-$900 almost everywhere I turn.
Just my $.02 worth.

OARNGESI
November 29, 2013, 06:53 PM
buds has the rock island gi model for $329 shipped right now, it would be hard to beat that.

Mick_W
November 29, 2013, 06:59 PM
Buds gun shop has a special on the RIA 1911 for $350. I have around 10k rounds through mine and going strong even with cheap mags its going strong.

Jim K
November 29, 2013, 07:06 PM
The Remingtons run about $700 and they are pretty good guns.

Jim

TfflHndn
November 30, 2013, 12:20 AM
I have an ATI Thunderbolt (full size, with rail) and it is a very good pistol. I also have the Citadel compact with Hogue grips. Also very good. The ATI needed a Wolff spring right away, but other than that it has operated flawlessly. I will probably do something with the sights on the Citadel; plain black is too hard to pick up in low light. Very happy with both of them.

Lantern
November 30, 2013, 08:29 AM
I have a Sig 1911(brand new) in 45 as well as a S&W 9mm pro series 1911(like new) for well under 1000 on gunbroker at 725 and 875 respectively. They are both a lot of gun for the money. The STI Trojan can be had riiiiight at 1000-1100 and is the next 1911 on my hit list.


However, if you wanna go even lower than that then it's hard to deny the downright sexy and american made Ruger sr1911. Now not near as sexy but smoother running is the STI spartan. Both can be had around 550-650.

Spats McGee
November 30, 2013, 09:14 AM
bac1023 put together Buyer's guide for all you 1911 addicts... (http://www.1911addicts.com/showthread.php?511-Buyer-s-guide-for-all-you-1911-addicts) It's worth your time to take a look.

tuj
November 30, 2013, 10:48 AM
STI Spartan should be on your list. Great gun.

smalls
November 30, 2013, 02:10 PM
but i cant find any reviews on them.

Then you haven't looked. At all. Google.

pendennis
November 30, 2013, 02:19 PM
Springfield Armory sells the Range Officer, which is well under your $1K limit. It has a ton of features on it for under $800. Then, you can spend the $200 savings on ammo.

And, unless your heart is set on new, there are any number of used Colts, S&W, Kimber, Springfield, Sig, etc., out there for well under $1K. There are always folks who buy and trade in, looking for the holy grail.

kbheiner7
November 30, 2013, 02:28 PM
It really depends on your preferences - I prefer a modernized version with better sights, ring hammer and extended thumb safety. Because of that preference, I'd look for a used gun with those options. If you prefer a more classic setup, the Springer Mil Spec is a god option. RI guns are ok, but a step down in fit and finish, imo.

gym
November 30, 2013, 04:01 PM
The SR1911 commander was on sale for 599 from Sportsman's Warehouse for Black Friday. That's a pretty good deal, too bad they aren't in FL.

krupparms
November 30, 2013, 05:21 PM
I am not buying a 1911 right now, but if I were I would look at that Ruger! JMO.

Hondo 60
November 30, 2013, 07:58 PM
Ruger & Remington are just north of 6 bills.

Metro Arm's American Classic II is just south of $500 (Distributed by Bersa).
(I have one & can highly recommend them).


6-8 months ago one of the gun rags did a "Beer Budget 1911" review.
I think it was "American Handgunner", but I'm not sure.
The writer said he liked the ACII some much he bought it after the reviews.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/49736

zerobarrier
November 30, 2013, 08:11 PM
I have two Kimbers a tactical pro 3" and a CDP custom 5" and love them both. New they are over $1000 but you can find them used on gunbroker for $800ish. Worth the money in my opinion, never had a single problem with either and I use them a lot. The magnum research 1911 is very nice as well. Or how about the LAR grizzly :P

ms6852
November 30, 2013, 10:27 PM
Springfield mil spec are what you want anything else is a gamble in your price point.

stinger 327
November 30, 2013, 11:25 PM
RIA 1911 Tactical. Paid $599 but that's the rate here in California.:confused::what:

mikey98e
December 1, 2013, 12:45 PM
Wednesday I bought a Remington 1911R1 SS Enhanced. Wow does it shoot good. I put a box through it Wednesday night and surprised myself at how well it let me shoot it. It beats my M&P 9mm full-size with the 3-lb target trigger.
-mike

RainDodger
December 1, 2013, 08:04 PM
A buddy of mine has the Ruger 1911 and I'm quite impressed with it. I also really like what I see in the new Remingtons for the dollars spent. I'd prefer either of them over non-U.S. 1911s. Either of them would be a great starting point if you want to personalize them, or you can leave them exactly as-is for a perfectly functional 1911. Doesn't get a lot better than that.

RussB
December 1, 2013, 08:12 PM
OP has 1 post, and has not been back since he posted...it takes 2 to have a conversation ;)

stinger 327
December 2, 2013, 11:23 PM
buds has the rock island gi model for $329 shipped right now, it would be hard to beat that.
That's a great price the lowest here on that RIA GI model is 499+

35Remfan
December 4, 2013, 10:17 PM
Kimber and Ruger would where I would look first.

I own a Kimber CustomII and it has been a wonderful pistol for me. I feed it primarily my own reloads and usually lead ones and never have a problem. It gobbles up whatever I feed it (always wanting more).

Ruger does a fine job.I have owned several over the years without any trouble.

But honestly few companies worry me right now with the exception of Remington. I have shot a Taurus 1911 and it shot fine only suffering because of the comparsion I can make with my Kimber.

A good buddy loves his Auto-Ordance.

SAS Mayhem
December 5, 2013, 03:56 PM
I have had 2 Rock's and they both shot great. I just sold my Firestorm DLX. One of the best trouble free 1911's I've ever owned. This was NOT a drama queen 1911.

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j419/mayhem47/DSCN02241_zpsac217343.jpg


Cheers
Ron

anothernewb
December 5, 2013, 04:05 PM
Remmington and Ruger both have a fine 1911 in the sub 1k range. Springfield Range officer as well.

wford
December 6, 2013, 12:54 AM
1911's suck. You won't get a proper gun for that amount. If you want a reliable 1911, you most likely wont get it for that price. If you spend 1.5k, then maybe you will get a reliable gun. That is a big maybe.

anothernewb
December 6, 2013, 09:46 AM
^ I'm guessing you have had a poorly made one.
I think there are many 1911 owners with less than $1k invested that would disagree with that statement, myself included. I'm approaching 7k trouble free rounds through mine. I also torture tested mine for function and gave up when I hit 1k with no jams or misfires in a combination of hardball and reloads with no cleaning.

stinger 327
December 6, 2013, 10:21 AM
I got a 1911 and finally got to shoot it at the range. What is so special about the 1911? Why is there such a following of gun owners? All I can feel is that it fits my hand great.

tcoz
December 6, 2013, 10:52 AM
Can't go wrong with SA 1911's. Both of my sons have the Mil-Spec model, both paid around $700 and neither has had a single malfunction from the first round on the first day using both factory ammo and our reloads. I love my Sig 1911 Nitron but I paid about $900 and it wasn't quite as reliable until I had put 500-600 through it and changed over to WC mags. SA 1911's--best buy for the money.

stinger 327
December 6, 2013, 11:04 AM
Can't go wrong with SA 1911's. Both of my sons have the Mil-Spec model, both paid around $700 and neither has had a single malfunction from the first round on the first day using both factory ammo and our reloads. I love my Sig 1911 Nitron but I paid about $900 and it wasn't quite as reliable until I had put 500-600 through it and changed over to WC mags. SA 1911's--best buy for the money.
Got a Glock 21 for $650

anothernewb
December 6, 2013, 11:16 AM
Stinger 327. hand fit is one of the reasons, It's a well designed pistol, and essentialy rather simple in nature.

but I believe that the primary reason is it's iconic nature/culture. Much in the same way that Harley Davidson has such a following. Sure there are others out there that do the same thing - but a 1911, like a harley, in whatever form or permutation - is instantly recognizable.

Kayo
December 6, 2013, 11:18 AM
"I got a 1911 and finally got to shoot it at the range. What is so special about the 1911? Why is there such a following of gun owners? All I can feel is that it fits my hand great."

You answered your own question.

stinger 327
December 6, 2013, 11:21 AM
Stinger 327. hand fit is one of the reasons, It's a well designed pistol, and essentialy rather simple in nature.

but I believe that the primary reason is it's iconic nature/culture. Much in the same way that Harley Davidson has such a following. Sure there are others out there that do the same thing - but a 1911, like a harley, in whatever form or permutation - is instantly recognizable.
Feeling good in my hand and appearance of 1911 style was the reason for me. I just find the prices to be very expensive on these guns.

nightal
December 6, 2013, 11:25 AM
I have and shoot 6 different RIA pistols, had to send the 10mm. back for service, had it back in two weeks. they have a no BS Lifetime Warranty.
for the price, you get a great gun...:D

stinger 327
December 6, 2013, 11:43 AM
I have and shoot 6 different RIA pistols, had to send the 10mm. back for service, had it back in two weeks. they have a no BS Lifetime Warranty.
for the price, you get a great gun...:D
These RIA 1911's are priced right. I wouldn't want to spend more than $599 for the RIA 1911 Tactical I got.

juk
December 6, 2013, 12:01 PM
My Ruger has been awesome from the start. Feeds, fires, and ejects everything I have put in the mags without exception. 0 malfunctions. I feel that it is hard to beat it when you include the warranty and the price. My brother has a basic Rock Island and it is a hammer too. The RI needed the feed ramp polished so it would feed hollowpoints reliably.

stinger 327
December 6, 2013, 12:18 PM
My Ruger has been awesome from the start. Feeds, fires, and ejects everything I have put in the mags without exception. 0 malfunctions. I feel that it is hard to beat it when you include the warranty and the price. My brother has a basic Rock Island and it is a hammer too. The RI needed the feed ramp polished so it would feed hollowpoints reliably.
Did he break in the RIA with 500 rounds as instructed?

5-SHOTS
December 6, 2013, 12:50 PM
May I suggest you to consider also the STI Spartan?

wford
December 7, 2013, 09:36 AM
No, i had a taurus, but that was the only cheap one. I have also owned kimber, 2 springfields, and a smith n wesson. for a range gun I dont mind but when i have taken classes with them that involved lots of rounds, not one has made it through without me messing with it. I wont use them anymore in comps either. I want to love the 1911, I love it's looks and the feel, but they are an overpriced, outdated, fussy platform that requires more care than any modern pistol. A 1200 dollar gun should perform as well or better than a $4-600 gun. That is not the case with the 1911. I have moved on to modern platforms and don't have the problems I used to. It made me feel like a fool to be messing around with my 1911's meanwhile glocks, cz's, sigs, walthers, smith n wessons, etc. kept running much better.I do miss the trigger from the 1911 though. I still have my smith, but it's a range toy now.

Okiegunner
December 7, 2013, 10:31 PM
I have an RIA tactical on the way. Paid $464.00 including shipping and another $15.99 for an extra Mec-Gar Gov't magazine. I have seen these for as low as $449.00 + whatever shipping would cost.

I currently have an Umarex Regent that I paid $300.00 NIB. Turkish made 1911 clone. Very nice entry level 1911. My brother-in-law keeps salivating over it, so its going to be a Christmas gift for him.

I have never owned a Rock but always hear good things about them. Looking forward to receiving it.

MICHAEL T
December 8, 2013, 02:23 PM
American Classic line up under a 1000 Lots of good 1911 for less than a grand.

Look for a used Colt I had bad luck with Kimber so I leave them alone

Speedgoat
December 8, 2013, 05:51 PM
Look used at a LGS or Pawn shop. I recently scored a Springfield Loaded in stainless for $600. Once I got the box and everything (out of state purchase had to ship) I found the original sales receipt in the box from 1 month prior with price listed a $850. Only one little scratch, not too worried about it I'm sure I'll put my fair share on it in time.

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