Buying Used Expensive vs. New Cheaper Guns


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JDR
November 30, 2013, 10:30 AM
My three .40s were bought used (HK USP 40, Sig P226, Early Gen4 Glock 22). I bought my Gen4 G-21 new from the latest shipment that my LGS had received from Glock.

The H&K always runs great the way I bought it. The Sig needed a Hogue Monogrip put on it to help control the snappy recoil. I also needed some gunsmith work to get it to run reliably. The Early Gen4 G-22 needed the ejector upgrade and also had a little gunsmith tune to get it to run really good. But I now have more in this used Gen4, then a new Gen4 would have cost in the first place. The Gen4 G-21 has been a winner since day one, I would not change a thing on it the way I first took it out of the box, it shoots great with cheaper, dirty Tula ammo that I will only shoot in .40 out of the G-22.

On future gun purchases I think I'm better off going with new & cheaper guns in warranty rather than used & expensive pieces that I need to pay my gunsmith to get right. I feel like I would need about a $75.00 discount off my next used gun purchase, to cover the cost of having it thoroughy gone over by my gunsmith. What are your experiences?

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bds
November 30, 2013, 10:43 AM
If you think about it, there are reasons why someone would want to sell a gun. If a gun shoots well for the owner, they tend to keep it. ;)

I would never buy a used gun unless I got to inspect it closely and range test it for accuracy and reliability.

David E
November 30, 2013, 10:53 AM
You needed a gunsmith to get the Gen 4 Glock running right? What could he possibly do that you could not do yourself?

You make it sound like "an early Gen 4" is a pretty old gun. They've only been out a year or so! Did you contact Glock about fixing it?

Buying used is always a risk, but knowing what you're looking at or looking for can go a long way in determining if a given gun is worth buying.

Just a couple years ago I saw a used Charter Arms .38 snub on the shelf for $85. I checked it out, knowing I'd find the reason it was only $85. Nope, it checked out fine! I bought it and it's been 100% from day one. New cost was $300+ at the time.

But you're right, you run the risk of buying someone else's problem that's out of warranty.

I bought a Smith Model 25-5 from a friend for.....$75! The only problem was, the 8 3/8ths" barrel had a bulge in it. Well, that's not quite true...it had FOUR bulges in it. I didn't know said friend had already called S&W and found out they did not have any replacement barrels, so he "dumped it off" on me. Unaware of this, I called a different number at Smith and they looked in a different drawer and told me they had ONE 5" barrel left. $250 later, I had a 5" barreled 25-5 I'd wanted for a very long time.

Buying used can be risky, but it can be fun and very worthwhile.

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Telekinesis
November 30, 2013, 11:05 AM
If you think about it, there are reasons why someone would want to sell a gun. If a gun shoots well for the owner, they tend to keep it.

It's not always a reliability issue. Sometimes a gun just doesn't feel right to a person after a while, or they decide they need the money for other toys. I've sold guns for both reasons where the guns had absolutely no issues other than the fact that I just didn't want to own them anymore. Though in all fairness, I have sold a gun because of reliability issues before - with full disclosure (and a very hefty discount) to the buyer.

OP, I've come to almost the exact opposite collusion as you have. All of my high quality used guns (Sig, HK, S&W revolvers) have functioned flawlessly without any smith work necessary. Even the guns I haven't been able to inspect personally before hand. I tend to interview the sellers through email (gunbroker/forum PMs) to make sure they sound knowledgable about the gun, and if they do there's a pretty good chance they took good care of the gun. I've gotten some good guns for very reasonable prices by doing this.

The one gun I purchased new, with factory warranty, turned out to be a lemon that neither the dealer nor the manufacturer would fix/replace. It had what I would classify as severe reliability problems (malfunctioning trigger, many failure to feeds and failures to extract) but the dealer had the attitude of "you bought it, it's your problem now" and the gun spent 3 months at a "company certified repair facility" and came back worse than when it left. Sometimes that warranty isn't all it's cracked up to be.

sigarms228
November 30, 2013, 11:16 AM
I have bought two used guns. A like new German P226 with case, manual, and test target for $500 and it has been flawless BUT the LGS I bought it from had 30 day warranty on it for peace of mind. I also bought Zurich Swiss Police P228 that was rated Excellent+ by Top Gun Supply and also has been flawless. Those are two SIGs I REALLY wanted and were simply not availble new anymore and I could sell each for WELL more than I paid for them.

Other then that I buy NEW or SIG Ceritifed Pre Owned of which I have bought two for $500 and they have been flawless and came with factory warranty for a year. CPO SIGs are terrific buy. Like new P226 and P229 at CZ prices :D.

I have purchased new SIGs, Walther, and HK center fire pistols all have lifetime factory warranty. I doubt I will ever need factory warranty service from any but it is nice to have and I have piece of mind that I do not own a pistol that some amateur tinkered with or pistol was otherwise abused or simply a lemon.

However I would not hesitate to buy used from my LGS with their 30 day warranty if I ever see someting I really want.

In the $500 to $550 price range their are so many fine pistols to choose from I would not even think of buying one in that price range used such as Walther PPQ/P99 AS, Beretta, Glock, and S&W M&P. I have very high regard for the SIG SP2022 and own one even though they can be purchased new for as little as $400.

JTQ
November 30, 2013, 11:22 AM
One gun I don't think I'll ever buy used is a 1911, and I like 1911's. There are just too many guys that think they are gunsmiths (they aren't) messing around with 1911's. Most of these guys take their perfectly functioning 1911's, and after a few credit card charges at Brownell's, they "customize it" to their liking, or get rid of the "subpar parts" as it came from the factory, end up with a non-functioning paperweight. Their next step is to sell it on the used market. Not to me at least.

On the other hand, nobody is "tuning" their S&W autos, or Ruger P-Series, or other similar guns. They shoot them, or they've sat in a drawer for years, until they don't want them anymore and then sell them. Those guns are probably a safe bet on the used market.

Mike1234567
November 30, 2013, 12:21 PM
I pawned and sold many very nice guns a couple years ago. It had nothing to do with reliability. Some were brand new and never shot. It was simply a money issue.

JDR
November 30, 2013, 01:05 PM
You needed a gunsmith to get the Gen 4 Glock running right? What could he possibly do that you could not do yourself?

You make it sound like "an early Gen 4" is a pretty old gun. They've only been out a year or so! Did you contact Glock about fixing it?

Yep, getting wacked in the forehead with hot brass was getting old, so I contacted Glock, & found out I bought an early Gen4 that had to have the no cost ejector upgrade. Glock wouldn't send out the part to anybody other than one of their certified armorers. I shoot my guns pretty hard, so I figure $45.00 to have my guy go over the ones that I do shoot often once a year is money well spent. I believe good gunsmiths are a dying breed and deserve to be supported!

Grunt
November 30, 2013, 01:19 PM
I have zero problems buying a used gun. If I did, I wouldn't own some great guns at more affordable prices. I also wouldn't have as many mil-surps as I do to include pistols like my Makarov, an CZ82 just to name a couple. I am still looking for a Colt Official Police after I get back home in a few months and the only way you are going to get a discontinued firearm is to buy one that is used. My primary carry gun is a USP-40C that I got used as well and I've had not a single problem with it. The only thing buying used is you have to know what you are looking at when it comes to spotting problems or steering clear of Bubba jobs. Some folks are more into the new gun and warranty and all and if that's what blows their skirt up, that's the way to go with what works for them. Myself, I won't turn down a good deal simply because it's used.

Esoxchaser
November 30, 2013, 01:33 PM
I buy used firearms all the time for hunting and plinking. For personal defense I only buy new, I want to know the guns entire history.

PabloJ
November 30, 2013, 02:44 PM
If you think about it, there are reasons why someone would want to sell a gun. If a gun shoots well for the owner, they tend to keep it. ;)

I would never buy a used gun unless I got to inspect it closely and range test it for accuracy and reliability.
That logic does not apply to United States where many people own dozens of guns and like to buy something different by rotating their inventory through trading and sales. Over dozen handguns rotated through my safe and most were bought as used guns. There was only one bad one among them and it was POS H&R nine-shot .22LR revolver, hardly surprising.

tuj
November 30, 2013, 02:51 PM
I've had very good luck buying used; has let me afford things I never would have been able to buy new like a Pardini.

JDR
November 30, 2013, 03:13 PM
My primary carry gun is a USP-40C that I got used as well and I've had not a single problem with it.

Same with my H&K USP 40 that I bought used; I'd like to find a similar deal on a P30!

frankenstein406
November 30, 2013, 03:40 PM
Not all orphans are bad but keep in mind if your paying someone to check it over it better be a good deal or you might wanna buy new.

dondavis3
November 30, 2013, 03:44 PM
@ JDR

Sorry I completely disagree with you.

I believe in buying high quality used - over cheaper new.

I too bought a used Glock 4th gen used - mine was a model 34 - I had to send it back to Glock to get it right - runs fine now.

I've bought used Sig's / HK's / S&W's / CZ's - never had a problem with any of them.

:cool:

jmr40
November 30, 2013, 03:47 PM
Virtually all of my guns have always been bought used, at least 90% of the ones I currently own. Most people will never shoot one enough to really break it in.

If you think about it, there are reasons why someone would want to sell a gun. If a gun shoots well for the owner, they tend to keep it.


Most people sell their guns simply because they don't like it, the chambering, or they need the cash. Most are just fine.

I've been able to own and try a lot of guns over the years by purchasing used. If I like it, fine. If I buy a new gun, don't care for it I'll only be able to sell it for about what I'd have paid for it used. I've bought a lot of used guns and sold them at a profit. Play it smart and trade up a few times and you end up with Colts at Ruger prices.

dondavis3
November 30, 2013, 03:53 PM
^^^ I agree

:cool:

Master Blaster
November 30, 2013, 05:28 PM
I always make out much better on used than new. You have to know what you are looking at and how to do a proper mechanical checkout. Many of the firearms I like are no longer in production, often the older versions are superior to current production. Most used guns are shot very little.

JDR
November 30, 2013, 05:42 PM
@ JDR

Sorry I completely disagree with you.

I believe in buying high quality used - over cheaper new.


Hey No Problem, now if the right H&K P30 in .40 S&W comes across slightly used but $300 under the price of new I'll eat my words.

sigarms228
November 30, 2013, 06:37 PM
That logic does not apply to United States where many people own dozens of guns and like to buy something different by rotating their inventory through trading and sales. Over dozen handguns rotated through my safe and most were bought as used guns. There was only one bad one among them and it was POS H&R nine-shot .22LR revolver, hardly surprising.

You must be listening to broadcasts of our liberal media propaganda who have an agenda to ban firearms against our Constitutional Rights. In reality only a very small percentage of firearms owners fit your description. We don't all shoot our pistols sideways either.

silicosys4
November 30, 2013, 07:08 PM
You must be listening to broadcasts of our liberal media propaganda who have an agenda to ban firearms against our Constitutional Rights. In reality only a very small percentage of firearms owners fit your description. We don't all shoot our pistols sideways either.

Your statement makes no sense. I'm pretty sure there are indeed many people in this country who buy and sell, and own dozens of firearms. I have gotten great deals on used firearms from people just because they needed the money, or fell out of love with the gun. Personally, I'd rather buy used. In fact, of the last 3 BNIB guns I've bought, 2 are pending trips back to the factory...."cheap" will not apply after transfer fees cost me $40 to get each pistol back.

Besides, I don't know many manufacturers who don't know what they have and are willing to sell their gun for cheap, like many private sellers of used guns.

bds
November 30, 2013, 09:54 PM
I would never buy a used gun unless I got to inspect it closely and range test it for accuracy and reliability.
That logic does not apply to United States where many people own dozens of guns and like to buy something different by rotating their inventory through trading and sales.
Pablo, based on the type/caliber of guns OP posted, I took it that it was for defensive purposes.
My three .40s were bought used (HK USP 40, Sig P226, Early Gen4 Glock 22). I bought my Gen4 G-21 new from the latest shipment that my LGS had received from Glock.
My sentiment was for home defensive/carry weapon that must perform with utmost reliability and accuracy and I would not feel confident unless I got to closely inspect the pistol in person and range test to verify reliability and accuracy for me. If a used firearm was in good serviceable condition and shot reliably with acceptable accuracy, I would not hesitate to make the purchase for the right price.

I do agree with you that buying/selling collectable or discontinued firearms is another story.

rick melear
November 30, 2013, 10:05 PM
No problem buying used for me. Most manufactures have a life time warranty. If I sell a gun it's because I'm tired of it not because it sucks.

CajunBass
December 1, 2013, 07:33 PM
If you think about it, there are reasons why someone would want to sell a gun. If a gun shoots well for the owner, they tend to keep it.

Not necessarly. I buy, sell, trade, and swap guns all the time, and I have never had a bad one. So why get rid of one? Because I want something else. I've gotten rid of guns I've never fired.

I almost never buy a "new" gun. No need to when I can find used ones for a better price. I really don't know what's being made these days. Plastic fantastics don't interest me enough to look at them. You see one you've seen them all. (My wife owned a Glock for a few years, I've owned a XD, a Sigma, and a Smith & Wesson Shield, so it's not like I've never owned them.) But IF I did decide I wanted one, I'd look for a used one.

I never think about a warranty. I've never had a gun break, or to really malfunction, so it just never crosses my mind.

USAF_Vet
December 1, 2013, 07:50 PM
Some guns I would buy new rather than used. But there are too many quality guns out there that are no longer in production. If I want them, used is the only option. 2 and and 3rd gen Smiths being one of them.

But I would rather spend a little more on a new production gun rather than buying the same gun used. Unless the sale was an absolute steal.

This applies to defensive pistols only. For plinkers and hunting rifles and shotguns, I don't mind used.

RainDodger
December 1, 2013, 07:58 PM
Generally I agree with bds in the second post... however... I like to find firearms that have some intrinsic history. Like the 1942 Winchester Model 94 I found. For modern handguns I think the OP is right - I like new stuff so you know what you're getting. You also want to think about other things (with rifles especially) like throat erosion with a high pressure caliber... you could be buying a beautiful "older" rifle only to find it has a really worn barrel. This one bit me once many years ago.

RussB
December 1, 2013, 08:19 PM
used "expensive" trumps cheaper new guns in my book.


I have purchased many more used guns than new, and will continue to do so. I have gotten some pretty good deals over the years

browneu
December 1, 2013, 08:34 PM
used "expensive" trumps cheaper new guns in my book.


I have purchased many more used guns than new, and will continue to do so. I have gotten some pretty good deals over the years

Right on, I agree.

chaser_2332
December 1, 2013, 08:40 PM
use guns are usually barely shot enough to even matter, I would much rather have a better quality used gun that a lower end new gun. That new shiny smell doesn't make the gun better in my eyes only more expensive. To the OP it seams like you blaming a factory flaw on a used gun purchase I don't see how that's justifiable.

Kahr33556
December 1, 2013, 08:45 PM
Don't buy a cheap gun

RussB
December 1, 2013, 08:48 PM
Don't buy a cheap gun


friends don't let friends buy cheap guns!

larryh1108
December 1, 2013, 09:27 PM
I think, if you bought a used gun and put $75 into and it then cost more than a new gun, you paid too much for the used gun. If there isn't a large enough spread between new and used then it's not worth the risk.

If you can get a $1200 (new) gun for $800-$850, then that works for me. If the same $1200 gun cost $1000, then I'd think twice. The spread has to be worth the "risk" or cosmetic flaws it may have.

85% of my guns I've bought used and don't regret any purchase. Some needed minor tweaking but that's the price of buying used.

Quentin
December 1, 2013, 09:42 PM
Most of my guns were bought used. Usually discontinued but desirable guns that I stumbled across. I field strip them and check them out as carefully as possible. Some were excellent deals, some I paid a little too much for but overall I'm pleased with each one. So far I've never been burned, all function well.

Schlegel
December 1, 2013, 09:46 PM
Nothing wrong with used if you educate yourself. Most everything I have is military and police surplus. If you only buy new you will miss out on some affordable classics.

sheephearder
December 2, 2013, 04:39 PM
What he said ^^^^^

wild cat mccane
December 2, 2013, 08:16 PM
Used gun prices are certainly too inflated.

When the difference is 50 bucks, you'd be a fool not to buy the new and get full warranty and warranty with your credit card.

Schlegel
December 2, 2013, 08:20 PM
Used gun prices are certainly too inflated.

When the difference is 50 bucks, you'd be a fool not to buy the new and get full warranty and warranty with your credit card.
In those circumstances, sure. But just try buying a new Walther PP at all. Or a new S&W revolver for $225 like I just saw a Model 10 for locally.

dondavis3
December 2, 2013, 10:54 PM
I save a heck of a lot more than $50

You just have to be patient and know what you should pay

:cool:

Jim NE
December 2, 2013, 11:11 PM
As a rule, only revolvers (of reputable quality) are what I buy used, because:

1 - Their reliability is generally as good as new
2 - Even more modestly priced TRADITIONAL Smith and Wesson revolvers cost too much as new guns. Example - I believe a model 64 lists for $800 new. I got one used for $318.

I generally avoid used semi-autos. I can look one over real good and still not know if it's going to work right.

With a used S&W or Ruger or Rossi revolver, however, I can cycle the cylinder and see if the firing pin travels the proper distance. Check lock up, front to back play, etc. I can assess it with more confidence prior to buying it. My used revo purchases have almost always turned out OK.

IdahoHk416
December 3, 2013, 01:40 AM
I like to find good deals, so if I decide that I want to purchase a particular gun, I will look for a like new used one for a good price.

Back in September, I found a used, like new, Springfield XD9 at my LGS for $350. It looks like it was hardly shot, it is 100% reliable so far, and I saved about $100-$150 of the price of a new one.

I bought a Ruger SP101 357 magnum the same day as the XD9. It was $400, and looked like it had less than 100 rounds through it. It was in pristine condition.

I purchased 2 guns that I had been wanting for a long time, that were in like new condition, and overall saved probably $300 off of what they would have cost me new. I'm happy with that.

Here is a pic of the two I took when I got them home.
http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w590/idahobackpacker21/DSCN0968_zpsba55663d.jpg

cdb1
December 10, 2013, 09:39 AM
I won't buy a used rifle or shotgun unless I can shoot it first. Upon thorough inspection they can be perfect but not shoot to POA on a shotgun or on a rifle be very inaccurate. I will buy used if there is an inspection period.

I am the same way with handguns with the same caveat and one caveat. The caveat is handguns no longer in production. I bought a CZ 82 and a Colt DS and Cobra from reputable dealers and had good luck.

On another note I have bought numerous firearms new the past couple of years and was able to sell them for what I price I paid.

SC Shooter
December 10, 2013, 10:11 AM
I have done both, and will continue to do both. I have a dealer that knows me well enough to call me when he gets something on trade that I might be interested in and that is in sync with my interests. I have an interest in gun history, so many of my used purchases are because of that. I have had no problems with any gun I have purchased either used or new that was not a simple fix.

Cardboard_killer
December 10, 2013, 10:12 AM
As a rule, only revolvers (of reputable quality) are what I buy used, because:
I know I'm jumping in late, but I completely agree with this statement. Indeed, I am surprised at the cost of new revolvers when good to great used revolvers are out there at half the price. And while I'm not a MIM basher, some of the old revolvers are simply better fitted than the new stuff, with better quality metal in some of the parts. I've gotten target quality 38s for under $500. A great lesson is that police trade ins can be great bargins because cops generally don't shoot much. Lots of holster wear, but no function problems. I just got a S&W 15 trade in that has a ton of wear, but no rust, and, when I opened up the side plate, the innards are in pristine condition.

I've gotten my share of lemons too, but even the lemon guns can be quite fun. If nothing else, it gives me a chance to learn something about the construction and function of firearms as I try to track down the problem.

I also cycle through guns quite a bit. I have a few keepers, but most everything is up for sale or trade eventually.

km101
December 11, 2013, 12:33 PM
I too am a "deal" hunter. I like to find used guns at below market price and save some money. So I would go for the "used expensive" over the "new cheap" most every time.

But I only buy guns that I am familiar with and that I can check out in person. That way there are no surprises or expensive trips to the gunsmith. I have bought several guns in the last few years and have never gotten burned!

And I agree with Cardboard that police trade-ins, whether revolvers or autos, can be a very good deal on a "shooter". Most have been carried a lot, but seldom shot! Therefore they are not the prettiest gun in the safe, but most often will shoot like new.

mburmaster
December 11, 2013, 03:35 PM
I have gotten good deals on used guns and only remember one that I had a problem with. I think people are funny when they sell their guns because they lost or do not have confidence in them anymore. It does not mean that there is a problem with the gun but maybe the operator. I have sold the ones that only collect dust in my safe ymmv.

CaliCoastie
December 11, 2013, 05:54 PM
ill wait unless its a special run of guns. then it may pique my interest. most of my guns have been purchased used, and i have plenty of room to make some scratch if i wanted to sell. most recent have been rifles, but still have picked up a couple of rugers, a 4" gp100 stainless ran 400, and a 6" blued security six ran 250....

Saleen322
December 11, 2013, 09:39 PM
If you know firearms, you will always make out better long term buying a used, quality gun. For example, I was looking for a good center fire target pistol. I could buy a used 52 Smith or a new 1911 then for about $500 - $600. I got the 52, got a more accurate pistol that is now worth in the 1K range where the cheap 1911 is now worth less than I would have had to pay for it.

browningguy
December 11, 2013, 10:16 PM
I bought my HK SLB2000k used, a couple of BHP's, Sako AIII, etc.. New or used doesn't really matter if it's the gun I want. I do tend to inspect them carefully and if it looks like a previous owner has "improved" them then I pass.

thump_rrr
December 12, 2013, 03:57 AM
I'm no expert since I've only been shooting for around 4 years now.
In Canada out pistols are for range use only so no CCW or being left
In a glove box somewhere.
I have found no reason to purchase a new handgun and I am very picky in what a gun looks like.
I have bought an HK P30-L, HK45, and a Springfield Stainless Loaded and all 3 were flawless and saved me hundreds of dollars when you consider the cost of 5 HK mags.

WC145
December 12, 2013, 07:23 AM
Originally Posted by RussB
used "expensive" trumps cheaper new guns in my book.

I have purchased many more used guns than new, and will continue to do so. I have gotten some pretty good deals over the years

I agree 100%, if you shop around there are some terrific deals to be had on used custom and high end guns.
The most expensive handguns I've ever purchased have been used custom Colts and S&Ws built by guys like Jimmy Clark, Austin Behlert, Joe Bonar, and Marc Krebs. The most I've spent is about $1500 and I've gotten custom guns built by master gunsmiths that could not be replicated for three times as much, if you could even find someone willing and able to do that sort of hand work done by Behlert and Clark. Only one gun has had an issue, I was aware of it at the time of purchase, and I had it repaired at a very reasonable price. In fact, of the dozen or so custom pistols and revolvers I have only one was purchased new and only three of the builds were commissioned by me.

SeanSw
December 12, 2013, 01:55 PM
Most of the used guns in my area are priced higher than a new one, even after accounting for shipping and FFL fees. I can't tell if the sellers aren't really interested in letting go or they're too lazy to spend 15 seconds googling the price of a new firearm. My last purchased was an inexpensive Taurus TCP and there was no sense in seeking out a used one. Nevermind the transferable warranty, I just wanted to build a history with the firearm.

We have been shopping for ccw revolvers and every day we find them (Practically new, only 15 shots fired, includes 18 rounds ammo, will trade for AR-15, etc....) posted on a myriad of local gun forums or trade boards that are $100-$150 higher than the total cost of purchasing them new online. With a 3 day waiting period in effect for private sales you can't even justify the gotta-have-it-now impulse of buying it in person.

Fiv3r
December 12, 2013, 03:30 PM
I have a healthy mix of new and used guns. Many of the used ones are milsurp pieces. I do have a few new ones that i bought for new-sake. Most of my autoloaders are new since they can be tricky to detect issues with 5 minutes of looking at them at the counter.

However, two of my favorite revolvers were bought used. Both .357 Rugers and both run flawlessly. My newest one, an SP101 was actually on sale for a very good deal at Gander Mountain of all places:eek: $350 for a revolver that showed absolutely no wear short of a heavily soot-stained cylinder face.

I took it home and spent 20 minutes with a little barkeeper's friend, and it looks like new. Shoots more accurately (for me) than any pistol in my collection. I love this gun, and if hard pressed, it might be the last gun in my collection that I would part with if need be.

Hokkmike
December 14, 2013, 07:43 AM
Used guns are easy to inspect. They can be field stripped, inspected, reassembled, manipulated, and etc., to see if they are acceptable. In the many guns I have traded or sold back to private individuals and/or gun dealers only one was ever test fired. You have no more assurance with a new vs. used gun as to function except for the manufacturer's guarantee.

As far as buying used high quality vs. new, perhaps, lower quality, I would say two things:

1. Beauty is in the high of the beholder. I know people who think High Points are queens.

2. Spending what you can afford is always a good decision.

For myself, as an example, as good used Norinco AK is to be preferred over a new Romanian AK any day. A used S&W revolver over a Taurus, and etc. But that is just me. I guess, probably like most of us, I would prefer a "better" new gun right from the start - but we $ome of u$ have problem$ with that!

BSA1
December 14, 2013, 05:34 PM
“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten” – Benjamin Franklin

lobo9er
December 14, 2013, 05:39 PM
^^^^^bsa1 +1

Just want to add High points carry a great reputation and a low price. Thats the combo. Used gun with a good rep or a new gun with low price with a good rep.

benzy2
December 17, 2013, 09:37 AM
I buy as much used as possible, though the price has to reflect that the firearm is used.

I've sold a few in the past that were in as new condition with no issues. Typically it was during a fund crunch and something else was calling my name. A few have sold due to panic pricing, again with no issues. I know there are plenty of reasons to sell a firearm that is gently used and working perfectly.

Of all the firearms I've bought, the new and inexpensive ones have had the most issues. While today's manufacturing has amazing capability, everyone seems to be producing for the cheapest product rather than the best. With that comes mediocre QC and headaches of "Lego" type firearms which aren't always in spec.

I'll take gently used for 1/2-2/3 the new price any day.

gym
January 7, 2014, 08:25 PM
Newer shooters get caught in the hype of the new models. They think that they have to have the latest one or they are missing something. After a couple decades, you become immune to the hype and know what you like more. It's harder to sell an old CZ or 1911 guy ,the latest polymer pistol. They know it isn't going to make them happy.
Same goes with revolver shooters. they aren't as interested in the latest 380 that Glock came out with as much as guys who shoot 380's. Of course there are crossovers, but the longer one shoots the more they are set in what they tend to like.
I look at every gun that comes out, but buy very few. If you get something cheap enough not to get hurt, then it's ok to play.

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