If the rear slide serrations are vertical it is a GI. If they are angled it is a MilSpec. As Springfield has discontinued the GI and the MilSpec is now retailing at nearly $700 I would seriously consider buying it. The warranty transfers. You can't get a new GI any more...
December 7, 2013, 10:10 PM
How used is used? You're saving about $100 off a new one, so if it's beat up, pass. It's not a screaming deal, but if it's like new, you get to save $100.
December 7, 2013, 11:15 PM
Ok, got the gun. It's GI. Strait serrations and small sights. Very good condition except for the 'idiot' marks at the slide stop and a few scratches.
Had 85 rounds of reloaded 230 gr FMJ ammo on the range.
First the trigger was HEAVY. Second about the 3 round of each mag would fail to eject. The extractor would hold it tight and not release it. Figured it was a over tensioned extractor (and was right.)
After about 50 rounds the gun started working normally (no ejection failures.) Shot dead on at 7 yards and almost one ragged hole groups, at least when I could overcome the trigger pull.
Took it home and did a complete disassembly. The mainspring housing has the trigger lock. But the little pin that keeps in the mainspring plunger was missing. Yes the new lock does not use a pin but this gun came without the KEY!
I replaced it with a stainless mainspring housing (with no trigger lock), new pin, new plunger BUT kept the same spring. Yes I know the 'new' spring was supposed to be shorter and heavier but this one worked perfect. That makes me think someone used the regular longer spring and that was the cause of the very heavy trigger pull.
Did some honing with stones on the trigger, sear, and trigger stirrup. Reassembled after a very thorough cleaning and the gun is 100 percent better. Maybe 5 lb trigger with some backlash.
Also replaced the grip screws with unbunged ones (whom ever had it used the wrong screwdrivers.)
Also put on Colt made plain grips in place of those VZ 'punishers' (but those VZ grips cost $75 if I were to buy them.)
Went back to the range and shot it again. Shot perfect.
Trigger is still maybe 5 or 6 lb. Gun works with every mag (Wilson, Chip Mcormick, Colt, etc...) shoots dead on with 230 fmj at 10 yards. All shots, I mean every one, in the black and groups varied from 1 to 3 inches depending om my hold (well the gun bites me! I know all GIs have that fault for many people and I've always been bitten by them.)
Just some trigger work and polish out the scratches and done deed.
And maybe for once I won't stick it in the safe and never see it again!
Yes they are worth the money but you have to know your guns in order to get the rough spots out.
December 8, 2013, 12:24 PM
GI with the little crappy sights? No.
Mil-Spec with the improvements? Yes.
December 8, 2013, 12:42 PM
I loved the small GI sights when I could still see. I can still shoot them decently with 1X reading glasses.
December 8, 2013, 03:58 PM
Well those little sights shoot dead on and I can hit the red target center ant 10 yards....
Sure my Kimber, Colt, and DW 1911's have way better sights but even small sights can work if you can see them.
Happily I can see them.
December 8, 2013, 05:16 PM
He ought to check out S&W 1903 revolver sights if he thinks those are little. :D
December 8, 2013, 10:41 PM
I have a .32 hand ejector S&W, first model, made in 1912. Yea real real little sights.
And guys, check out any Colt 1903 .32 auto or WW1 .45 1911. They had real small sights.
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