December 9 deadline approaching to comment on proposed NFA rule change


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Elkins45
December 7, 2013, 03:23 PM
Just a reminder that the public comment period on the proposed change to the NFA regs requiring CLEO sign off for ALL NFA purchases, even those by trusts and corporations ends on December 9. If you haven't made you opinion known on this intrusive and pointless proposed rule changes, please do so before COB on December 9.

The link to do so is here: https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/09/09/2013-21661/machine-guns-destructive-devices-and-certain-other-firearms-background-checks-for-responsible

I see this is currently being discussed in Activism as well.

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plodder
December 7, 2013, 05:38 PM
Did it today

wacki
December 7, 2013, 06:01 PM
Keep in mind this will require me to fingerprint and mugshot ALL of my family members for each and every NFA purchase. Want to buy a plastic stock for a glock? Time to drag the family to the police station.

TRX
December 7, 2013, 06:57 PM
Wow. That web site is a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

One would get the idea they're trying to discourage comments...

Aaron Baker
December 8, 2013, 04:28 PM
Bump to the top. This is your last chance to comment. If you use a trust for NFA purchases, you should comment on this proposed regulation. I submitted my comments today.

Aaron

HexHead
December 8, 2013, 04:48 PM
They are just going through the motions with this "public comment" stuff. The new head of the BATFE is an 0bama appointee and he's just doing his master's bidding. It's a done deal, they don't care what anyone thinks about it.

Aaron Baker
December 8, 2013, 05:47 PM
They are just going through the motions with this "public comment" stuff. The new head of the BATFE is an 0bama appointee and he's just doing his master's bidding. It's a done deal, they don't care what anyone thinks about it.

Perhaps, but there's still administrative law requirements in regards to the comments. If no one commented, we'd just be making the job easier.

Aaron

Elkins45
December 9, 2013, 09:19 PM
Now that the deadline for comments is over, would anybody like to hazard a guess on when the ATF will act on the proposed rule change?

This is one case where I hope the .gov takes its good sweet time, at least until my application for a silencer is approved! Yes, it's selfish I know, but I sure went to a lot of trouble and expense only to possibly be told I have to start all over again.

Aaron Baker
December 9, 2013, 09:27 PM
Although we can't know for sure until it happens, representatives from the ATF have said that applications in process will be grandfathered in.

Aaron

Elkins45
December 10, 2013, 12:13 PM
Although we can't know for sure until it happens, representatives from the ATF have said that applications in process will be grandfathered in.

Aaron
I have heard speculation about that, but you're the first person who has indicated they had info from ATF on the matter.

I certainly hope that's the case because my check was cashed in April. I'm hoping I might see my stamp in January, assuming a 9 month processing time.

Aaron Baker
December 10, 2013, 12:31 PM
From Attorney Robert Merting:

This afternoon I spoke with Brenda Friend, the attorney at the ATF responsible for answering questions on this initiative. According to Ms. Friend, the proposed rule should be published soon for a 90 day comment period and will appear on the ATF website before an official publication by the Government Printing Office. Once the 90 day comment period is up the ATF will have to consider ALL comments and respond. A flood of comments could drastically slow this down. Ms. Friend specifically confirmed that the rule would not be retroactive and those transactions already approved will stand.

For what's it's worth, we appear to have Brenda Friend's word on it.

Aaron

Elkins45
December 10, 2013, 01:09 PM
"Transactions already approved" would seem to me to refer to ones where the stamp has already been issued, not necessarily the ones in progress when (if) the rule changes.

I hope I'm being pedantic....

Bartholomew Roberts
December 13, 2013, 06:22 PM
Comment of the NRA-ILA on Proposed 41P Regulation (http://nraila.org/media/11953938/comment_of_nra-ila_on_atf_41p_1_.pdf)

Elkins45
December 13, 2013, 08:23 PM
Comment of the NRA-ILA on Proposed 41P Regulation (http://nraila.org/media/11953938/comment_of_nra-ila_on_atf_41p_1_.pdf)
I am pleased and impressed with their response.

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