Binocular Suggestions, Hunting this year was a pain with the one I had


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col_temp
December 8, 2013, 05:37 PM
OK,

First off it was my first hunting trip with my Uncle. Had never hunted the area and had an old pair of binoculars handed down probably from around WW2!
Needless to say had trouble seeing much and spent way to much time trying to focus! :banghead:

So, obviously its time for a new pair!
Looking for suggestion on size, power etc...
(Also should mention, Hunting is in Eastern Washington, Montana, and South Dakota, so generally wide open spaces in the hills. My western Washington hunting probably won't need glass as its up close and personal!)

1. Planing to get a roof prism pair.
2. Suspect I need something in the 10x42 or 10x50. Is it worth going higher (say 12-15x)?
3. Are adjustable power ones worth the extra cost?

Willing to spend money but also don't need to break the bank.
4. I know Bushnell has a rebate on at the moment. Are they any good?

Thanks for any insights, Suggestions that include your personal favorites are welcome! :)

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gamestalker
December 8, 2013, 05:56 PM
You can't go wrong with a pair of Leupolds. I have some that are more than 30 yrs. old and they are still as crisp and sealed, as the day I bought them. And if they ever do leak, which I sent two pair in recently after decades of hard use, Leupold will refurbish them for free.

Just don't get the idea that you can get decent glass for peanuts though. Good glass does cost a little bit. A decent pair of Leupolds are going to cost at least $400. But if you keep your eyes open, you can sometimes find older used ones for a couple hundred, sometimes much less. Speaking of much less, I was in a pawn shop a few years back and spotted a beat up pair for $8, yes $8. Apparently the shop didn't know what they had in their display case, I did. I bought them, and then sent them to Leupold for service, and I got a brand new looking working pair of glasses back, no charge.

And to really glass you need either 10x or 12x power to be of much use. Then buy a tripod and adapter, and begin learning the art of glassing. Using a tripod allows you to spot game that you definitely would have missed other wise. This week alone I spotted 3 bucks in my spotting scope that were at least 1-1/2 miles away. And then I got to watch, and guide the entire kill as it went down. There is nothing more cool than watching an animal hit the ground before you hear the shot.

What ever you do, don't waste money on bargain priced glasses. Even the bargain priced Leupolds are junk, and shouldn't have the Leupold name on them. They didn't used to make junk.

GS

Flintknapper
December 8, 2013, 07:21 PM
IF you will be 'glassing' from a fixed point more than roving...then a good pair of 10X-12X (and something to steady them) will serve you well enough. Most folks find that anything over 8X (if handheld) becomes tiresome.

Fortunately, there are a number of manufacturers offering decent glass these days for reasonable prices.

I like Pentax (for the money) and 8 x 43 does everything I need, but shop around and get a few models in hand before you buy.

Good luck afield!

Flint

huntershooter
December 8, 2013, 07:36 PM
Unfortunately you get what you pay for with optics.
My preference is 8X33+- as I "still hunt", or spot and stalk. Size and weight is a consideration.
I have had excellent results from Kahles and Minox binoc's.

WaywardSon
December 8, 2013, 07:41 PM
I have used and abused a pair of 8X Steiners for going on 30 years. Good glass and still going strong. $225 for them back in the day. No such thing as good cheap glass.

MCgunner
December 8, 2013, 07:44 PM
I sure like my compact, armored Bushnell 10 power for carrying, but they ain't worth a toot at dusk in dim light. Size is a trade off. Hunting from a box blind as I'm now doing, I need a new pair of larger objectives. My wife had a $3K pair of Cannon image stabilized binos when we moved here and we ain't found 'em, yet, but we don't have all the boxes gone through, yet. I still have hope I can find those things. They were bought by her ex when he was in a bird watching phase. :D They're a might too powerful for hunting in the woods, though, 16x. Dang, I could watch the ticks on a deer's arse at 100 yards with those things. In the woods, field of view is more important than power.

jmr40
December 8, 2013, 08:08 PM
Your budget is vague. $1,000 wouldn't break the bank for a lot of guys. There aren't many under $200 that I'd take a chance on, but these have proven to be very good for under $100.

http://swfa.com/Leupold-6x30-BX-1-Yosemite-Binocular-P48061.aspx

I know of a lot of people, including some professional guides who use these and swear by them. I own $600 binoculars that stay home and I take these instead. The difference in quality is so small that I cannot justify carrying the extra weight or worrying about damaging the more expensive binoculars. This is also a good size. Easy to carry, but with good light transmission. Smaller more compact binos are easier to carry, but you sacrifice low light ability with smaller objectives. The front objective MUST be at least 5X the magnification, 6x30, 7X35, 8X40, 10X50, 12X60, etc. for use in low light. Bigger glasses will allow greater magnification, but you must go with a much larger objective lense to be effective.

Anything bigger than 8X40 would be OK if you have someone else carrying them. If not you don't want anything over 8X and you won't be handicapped by 6X or 7X even in Western states. Leupold makes this version in a 8X30, but the quality of the 8X just isn't there because the front objective is too small.

If you really want something bigger than 6X most any of the name brands selling in the $200 and up range should be pretty decent. More money almost always equals more quality, but not always. You really need to look through some before buying off the net without looking through them. Just make sure you get a front objective at least 5X greater than the magnification. Anything smaller will disappoint in low light. They all look good in the store or in good light.

Patocazador
December 8, 2013, 08:38 PM
I don't know of a compact model that would qualify. I bought a pair of Bausch & Lomb Elite 10x40 about 15-20 years ago. I paid $750 at the time and everyone said I was nuts. I've never regretted it.
Bushnell bought out B&L but I don't know if they maintained the quality on their higher-end optics. I know that their compacts and inexpensive glass is sub-standard as far as I'm concerned.

DM~
December 8, 2013, 08:55 PM
I got sick of bino's failing when i needed them most! SO, i bought these,

http://www.fototime.com/B002F9F21B6B49D/standard.jpg

That was more than 30 years ago and they have been worth every penny i paid for them!! Especially since to day they still work perfectly, so how much per day will they have cost me, by the time i take my eternal dirt nap???

DM

col_temp
December 9, 2013, 12:43 AM
thanks Guys,

Yes I don't plan on the bargain brands! But It's still hard to justify $1000 for something that gets used very little.
The rough price point of 200 is well taken. I also plan to drop by Cabela's and another to try a few.
I posted the question so I didn't have to waste time and can start where I need to.

Thanks JMR40 for the insights. I will keep that in mind. Since I am mostly deer hunting low light is a must. And the grey days of Washington mean lower light is regular here.

Thanks for the tips about the Pawn shops. I have several good ones nearby and will start prowling them from time to time.

col_temp
December 9, 2013, 12:45 AM
BTW
The ones I was lugging around were 7x35 steel binoculars. Weighing like 2.5 - 3 lbs.
No wonder the strap kept digging in!

(Probably should add that to the useless items taken hunting thread!)

Davek1977
December 9, 2013, 01:13 AM
I have a pair of Nikon Attache 10x42 that have served me quite well hunting west river South Dakota.

col_temp
December 9, 2013, 01:41 AM
I have an older pair of Bushnell 10x50 porro prism, wide angle, q/ quick focus.
Do you think these would suffice or should I look for something a bit better?

skoro
December 9, 2013, 08:48 AM
Suggestions that include your personal favorites are welcome!

A few considerations, from an old guy who has owned and used LOTS of binos over the years.

1. The higher the magnification, the narrower the field of view and the more difficult it becomes to hold them steady. Higher magnification also magnifies any hand movement, making focus and viewing fuzzier and more fatiguing.

2. When moving around the boondocks, a heavy bino soon becomes a real pain in the neck.

3. Good glass doesn't come cheap.

All that said, this is my suggestion:

http://www.adorama.com/CA1030.html


Relatively compact and lightweight. Excellent optics. And the image stabilizer really works well. Worth every penny, IMHO.

Patocazador
December 9, 2013, 09:35 AM
I have an older pair of Bushnell 10x50 porro prism, wide angle, q/ quick focus.
Do you think these would suffice or should I look for something a bit better?
There's nothing substandard about porro prisms. They just aren't as compact as roof prisms. The thing that matters is whether the glass is coated. This helps tremendously in low light.

col_temp
December 9, 2013, 12:30 PM
Thanks for the clarification Patocazador. Didn't know that.
Skoro, Takign a look at the link. Will consider. Could agree more with your points! Part oft eh reason I asked was to make sure I was thinking reasonably!

wgp
December 9, 2013, 02:19 PM
I have tried various binos over the years. I have a pair of Steiner Military/Marine that are excellent but very bulky. I have a good set of Pentax that gets the most use, and are left in the truck at all times. I have some $100 or so glasses that get left in tool boxes and car consoles for occasional use.

But, I found a pair of Zeiss glasses in a sporting goods store going out of business and bought them for about $400, half-price. One of the great things I ever did. I don't know that I'd have paid full price, but I do know that they are hands-down the best glasses I've ever used, you can truly see the difference, and even at full price would cost less than all the cheap glasses I bought first. As for infrequent use, I keep these glasses stored away and basically just get them out for deer hunting and it's one of the great pleasures in my hunting/shooting life to get them out and use them.

Power? I find that I prefer 8x for most hunting (Kansas) but 10x is OK too, just a bit harder to keep steady. If I was in the mountains a lot I'd prefer the 10x I suppose.

skoro
December 9, 2013, 08:43 PM
col temp -

I was skeptical about the reports I'd heard and read on the image stabilized Canons. I now own not only the 10x30s for all-around use, but I have a 15x50IS for stargazing. Outstanding night binos, but big and heavy. The 10x30s are just right for field use.

Dinosaur1
December 9, 2013, 09:48 PM
I have a pair of Leupold 8x30's that go everywhere. Happy compromise between weight, power and size all for under a hundred bucks. Don't take my word for it, go look through a pair.

witchhunter
December 9, 2013, 10:08 PM
10x40 Leupolds. Had em 20 years and struggled with cheap stuff before these. Wish I could afford the Swarovskis though. Glass is worth the money you pay. I like the new Vortex that my cuz just bought too.

Lloyd Smale
December 10, 2013, 07:50 AM
ive got a pair of monarch 5 8x40s. Great binocular and reasonable priced. They acutally to my eyes are a bit better in low light then my stiener preditors that i payed 200 dollars more for.

Outlaw Man
December 10, 2013, 01:30 PM
Having gone prairie dog hunting in Wyoming with a less-expensive, older (Japan) Bushnell's and trying some of the others my hunting partners had, I'm not sure I'd do it again with binoculars that I spent less than $600-800 on.

Granted, we were driving and had rests to steady any shakes, but the extra quality of a decent pair of Leupold (or Swaro or Zeiss) was a necessity.

OldBrownDog
December 10, 2013, 01:34 PM
For about $400, I'm not sure the Nikon Monarch 7's can be beat - I really like mine. 'course I'm saving up for a pair of Swaro's at some point....

buck460XVR
December 10, 2013, 02:30 PM
ive got a pair of monarch 5 8x40s. Great binocular and reasonable priced. They acutally to my eyes are a bit better in low light then my stiener preditors that i payed 200 dollars more for.

I have a pair of the Nikon Monarch 5 10X42s and doubt if I would ever be in need of anything better. They are as clean and crisp as any I have ever looked thru, including brands that cost several times as much. They also are excellent in low light. Iffin I remember correctly they were right around 3 bills.

CMC
December 10, 2013, 03:38 PM
Leupold Mojave 10 x 42 great optics for about 400 bucks for stting.
Leupold 6x 30 yosemite about 100 bucks great quality for the price and lightweight.

Kernel
December 10, 2013, 09:17 PM
My parents have three pairs of the Canon stabilized binos. Two of the 10x30 and one 15x50. They use them to look at birds on their feeders. The farthest feeder is about 75 ft away. The Canon optics work great for that. My parents are in their 80's and little shaky, so the image stabilization is useful to them. I couldn't imagine taking those binos hunting, though. For the price the optics are awful, and they wouldn't last long since they're not waterproof. Kinda a neat gadget, though. Based on Canon's mid-90's camcorder technology.

gamestalker
December 10, 2013, 09:30 PM
There are some who live and hunt in regions where long hours of glassing is necessary, thus the need for high quality glass and tripods. Then there are those who hunt from tree stands or blinds, thus any inexpensive pair that doesn't produce double vision, will do fine.

But true glassing can only be performed from a tripod, and absolutely requires quality glass.

GS

Leanwolf
December 10, 2013, 11:07 PM
In 1989 my dear sweet wife gave me a Swarovski 7x42 Armored binocular for my birthday. I had been using a much less expensive binocular for years. Due to several factors plus eye fatigue, I was finally displeased to the point I was looking for improved glass.

Since receiving the Swarovski binocular, I have used it in all kinds of weather and terrain, hunting, scouting, and just general outdoor glassing. Today, 24 years later, it is still as problem free as the day my wife gave it to me. Rain, sleet, snow, dust, high temperatures and low, being dropped a couple of times, my falling several times with it strapped on my chest, some pretty rough abuse, and it is still clear and bright.

I've used it all over the Sierra in Calif., and the Rocky Mountains of Idaho, Utah, Colorado, and Wyoming, plus the high desert country of northern Nevada and southwest Idaho. The 7x42 power is all I've ever needed... and I've killed a lot of game.

In my opinion, save your money and buy a top end binocular and if you take reasonable care of it, it'll last you a life time. The brightness and clarity will reward you with great viewing of game out in the field without giving you eye fatigue.

Just my take on buying a new binocular.

L.W.

Andrew Leigh
December 11, 2013, 02:07 AM
This is what I carry, probably a litle heavier than you may want but I am a birder so they need to double up for hunting. Do have enough money to afford optics for every eventuality.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/673561-USA/Pentax_62555_DCF_CS_8x42_Binocular.html

col_temp
December 11, 2013, 02:13 AM
Thanks Everyone,
Interesting reading the various options. Do like what I see from Leupold and Nikon in the $300-400 range.
Didn't make it to the store to try some hands on, but hope to tomorrow. Will keep all th good advice in mind!

heeler
December 11, 2013, 09:30 AM
Check out the Pentax.
Around five years ago I wanted a good binocular and bought the Pentax 8x42 DCF HRII.(now discontinued)
Fantastic binoculars on par with glass costing twice or more than the $300 these retailed at.

Thunder Struck
December 11, 2013, 12:12 PM
I love them, crisp, clear. They come in handy at dusk and dawn with the 50 mm. Not to expensive, not to big, not to much weight.

Just my 2 cents

RubenZ
December 11, 2013, 12:33 PM
These (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004X280H6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004X280H6&linkCode=as2&tag=t00c-20) have always been good for me.

josiewales
December 11, 2013, 02:25 PM
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/650426?cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Optics%20-%20Binoculars-_-PriceCompListing-_-650426&gclid=CPSbrNTyqLsCFepQOgodalYAqg

I have these, and they are EXCELLANT! I have used these all archery and rifle season, and have zero complaints.

dtalley
December 11, 2013, 02:55 PM
I purchased the Nikon Monarch 3 - 10x42 just 2 weeks ago. I had been using Bushnell 10x42 auto focus and after using the Nikon's on my trip to the woods last week, My Bushnells are for sale. I think I spent right at $300 on the Nikons and it was well worth it. I have a friend that has a pair a swavarski's that are wonderfull but I can't pay over $1000 for binoculars and stay married.

DM~
December 11, 2013, 03:36 PM
Best part about me buying my Swaro's, it's been over 30 years now, and they are worth used, just about what i have into them when new!

Seems like a pretty good deal to me...

DM

col_temp
December 12, 2013, 12:18 PM
Thanks again for the input.
So many choices!
Finally hoping to hit Cabely's today! to try a few. Thanks to all who have chimed in.

ridurall
December 12, 2013, 01:53 PM
Myu favorite hunting pair of binoculars are Brunton Epochs they rank right up there with all the high end binoculars but cost somewhat less. $1000 to $1500 but they have a great Halo warranty. Lifetime they will fix or replace them if lost, stolen or broken.

For somewhat less around $250 Vortex makes a reasonable binocular. I purchased one for my son in law's birthday.

Stay away from Cannon "all weather" image stabilized binoculars. While I like the Image stabilized part the "all weather" is a bunch of whooey. I got caught in a rain storm when they were less than a year old and I sent them back because of the fog in them. They told me they would fix them for $1568. Needless to say I don't purchase anything Cannon.

Good luck on your choice. The more you spend the better you get.

almostfree
December 14, 2013, 07:58 PM
I have been very impressed with the Zen-Ray ED3 8x43 binoculars. I did a lot of research before buying them and almost bought a pair of Zeiss binoculars, but all the reviews said they were very good bang for the buck. I've used them in low light conditions with no problems. They are on par with my Zeiss rifle scope in low light. I recall reading that 8x binoculars with very good optics will out perform 10x or 12x with cheaper optics every time. I've found that to be true in my personal experience.

Nite Ryder
December 15, 2013, 07:52 PM
Binoculars are like so many other pieces of equipment we buy for hunting, but maybe even more so. The more you pay the better the binoculars will be. I would stick with name brands and expect to pay $500 or $600 or maybe even more, for a decent pair of glasses. I'm speaking of manufactures like Leica, Swarovski, Zeiss, & Steiners. If I was the kind of person to always spend the least amount of money possible I'd look at Leupolds or Nikons or something like that. I have four pair of binoculars and use a small pair of Nikons that I keep in my hunting pack, but my son's Leica's are so much better than mine. He paid almost $1300 for those binoculars and his thought was once you buy them and pay for them you have them for the rest of your life, and they are close to the best you can own. The real difference in binoculars comes into play after the sun goes down and just before the sun comes up. that is when good binoculars make a difference. One thing to keep in mind, usually the much better , more expensive binoculars are also heavier. Not the best thing to hang around your neck, that is the reason I've hung on to the small, light weight Nikons I use. Sometimes you have to compromise...

oldfortyfiveauto
December 15, 2013, 10:36 PM
I spend a fair amount of time out west for prairie dogs on up. I've settled in on a pair of Vortex Viper HD 6x32's and a Vortex Razor HD 11-33x50 spotting scope.

I can't fault Vortex.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-hd-6x32-binocular

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-razor-hd-11-33x50-straight-spotting-scope

JJHACK
December 16, 2013, 11:43 AM
An excerpt from my book on field glasses:

These are paragraphs cut and pasted, not in the order that they appear in the context of the books chapters.

Well, objective diameter is only part of the formula. There is a little calculation to determine exit pupil size. The exit pupil is what delivers light to your eye. About 6mm of exit pupil will deliver the most light your eye can absorb. How do we determine exit pupil? If you divide the objective diameter of your lens by the power setting on your scope you will have the "exit pupil" size. For example a 3-9X40 scope with the power set to 3 will have a 13.3mm exit pupil diameter. The same scope with the power set at 9 would have a 4.4mm exit pupil.
8 X 32 field glasses have an exit pupil of 4
8 X 42 field glasses have an exit pupil of 5.25
10 X 42 have an exit pupil of 4.2
10 X 50's have an exit pupil of 5

These are all close to the magic number of 6 for the light gathering.
There are two thoughts here on Binoculars, one is to have a pair you can clearly judge trophies with and the other is a pair you can find game with. You mean they are not the same thing?

Well let's pick out some numbers here that will be easy to follow along with. Let's say that the average distance you will be glassing will be between half and one mile. Or better yet let's use 800 yards. 880 yards is a half-mile but if we round it off to 800 the math will be easier to follow. With 10 power binoculars the animal you're looking at seems to be 80 yards away when viewed at 800 yards. With 8 power glasses he would appear to be at 100 yards. The animal, which is a half-mile away only, seems to have a 20-yard or sixty-foot difference with the 8 power versus the 10 power. At one mile away there is a forty-yard difference, at 200 yards there is only a 5-yard difference.

What does this mean to us? Well as you probably know the more magnification you have in optics the more difficult it is to hold them steady. With that in mind the 10 power glasses will be more difficult to steady in your hands then the 8 power glasses are, maybe much more. Depending upon your pulse, the wind, and your anxious mind set when closing the gap to your target.

Even if you have the highest quality glasses made in ten power, if you cannot hold them steady, the clarity will not help your unsteady hold. The 8 power glasses are much easier to see through with some movement and you only lose the little bit of magnification as mentioned above. The light gathering is also shown above and from that you can see that the 8X32 and the 10X42 have almost identical exit pupils. The 8X32 glasses are much smaller and user friendly to the hunter as well.

In Africa when your hunting with a professional hunter your binoculars are a burden at times and the PH will have a set to judge trophies with anyway. I think it is best to carry a set of compacts or none at all while in many hunting situations. It is a good idea to have a set of quality glasses for extended viewing in certain wide-open areas in the Eastern cape, the Free state or in Namibia. It is also nice to have a pair of glasses with you for general sight seeing and wildlife viewing. When your actually the one with your reputation on the line as is a PH or even an American hunting guide, the full size 10 power glasses really come into play because there is no margin for error on your clients trophies. I use 10X42 Leica's for my job, but have a tripod adapter to lock them in and hold them steady. For my personal hunting I use a pair compact 8X32 Kahales.

I see no use for "zoom" binoculars, or more then 10 power. I don't care how fantastic the optics are. If you cannot hold 12 power dead steady then they will not help you find that third point to make a legal buck, or to count the growth rings on a Sheeps horns to see that it's legal. That is the use of a spotting scope. Remember too that you spend lots of time looking through field glasses, but only a moment to look through a rifle scope. Consider the amount you invest in both. You only need the scope to shoot for the seconds you're looking through it. You're not studying or scouting for game with a rifle scope

Just as using a Rifle scope as a way of scanning the terrain is a huge and unethical mistake. Never point a gun at things your not going to shoot. That is the job of binoculars. I spend many hours a day looking through Binoculars. Without out good optics I would get a splitting headache having my brain work overtime to sort out the blurry or differential view for each eye. If you are only going to use them a couple hours a day you can get away with much less.

When you're using them to study a deer to see it's legal or worthy of your hunter to shoot it, or studying a bears hide to see that it's not rubbed for your clients trophy. Trying to see if the tips are broken or Broomed on a big Bull Gemsbok. the quality of optics is critical.

With all this being said, the difference between a 500 and 1000 dollar set of glasses has narrowed a whole bunch in the last decade. Since the Chinese have begun to build glasses now for many of the bigger companies to their design and with their specifications the prices have dropped. Ziess Makes a set of glasses now with chinese construction. You can get a great set of glasses now in the 500 dollar range. Glasses that would have been 1200 bucks 10 years ago.

col_temp
December 18, 2013, 02:55 AM
Thanks JJhack,
Well put together and appropriate post. I liked your comments about the 8x vs the 10x.
Get your point about the scope versus bino's as well. Good point for everyone to remember. If you plan to shoot long range competition, spend money on the scope otherwise get something that is good enough.

Oldfoutyfive, I am leaning strongly towards Vortex already.
Was in comparing Nikon's Monarch 5's and the Leupold BX-3 to the Vortex Talon. For roughly the same money (especially with sales or rebates) The Vortex wins hands down.

Coming down to Vortex Viper or Talon. The Vipers are a bit better but I like the slightly larger size of the Talon's, A bit easier to handle for my larger hands.

Thanks again to everyone else. I did follow most of the links and looked up your suggestions.

Pete D.
December 18, 2013, 05:06 AM
was skeptical about the reports I'd heard and read on the image stabilized Canons. I now own not only the 10x30s for all-around use, but I have a 15x50IS for stargazing. Outstanding night binos, but big and heavy. The 10x30s are just right for field use.
Absolutely.
I a set of Canon 10x30 IS binos. The optical quality is superb. They are durable and useful under quite extreme field conditions.
I have a dozen sets of binoculars - from inexpensive Bushnell 7x35s to a set of Swarovski EL 10x42s. Binos objectives from 30mm to 100mm....
The ones I grab most often as I go out the door are the Canon IS.
You look at something, press the button and the image just stops moving.
As to being waterproof...I had mine on a ten day boat trip down the Amazon River, a place where it has been known to rain a bit...lots of time in small boats...no problem with the Canons.
I also own a set of IS binos by Fujinon....14x40s. They are larger and heavier tha the Canons and more than twice the price. Great optics. Designed for marine use, they have an even greater ability to stabilize - you can take them on to a small boat and use them and have a stable image....and they are waterproof.
I see that Nikon has a set of IS binos on the market at 12x32 and 16x32. I am tempted. The reviews are good. Waterproof.
Pete

Lloyd Smale
December 18, 2013, 06:20 AM
where are you finding votex tallons that cheap on sale?

JJHACK
December 18, 2013, 09:56 AM
If we consider the most used and needed items as hunters field glasses have to be at the top of the heap. No clothing item or boots although critical are equal. They are known wear items which will be replaced. Rifles should last a lifetime, but let's face it, sportsman are fickle and change their minds or collect lots of guns. Knives are a good example of something kept and used for decades, much like binoculars.

The point is, making the investment in good optics will last you a lifetime. It's the one item although expensive that if you scrounge up the money in your 20s they will still be used in your 60s probably your 80s!

I have a very expensive pair of European glasses. They are pushing 30 years old. As good today as the day I bought them. Under close examination there is dried blood in the nooks and crannies, dirt from across Alaska, Canada, many African countries, the mountains of Asia, the mountains of it Itialy France Germany etc.

When I look around at all the other hunting things I have today, there is not a single other piece of hunting equipment or clothing that I had when I bought these. It's hard to justify a big chunk of cash on binoculars. You can buy cheaper now, then again in 6-10 years and again in 15-20 years etc. the amount will be the same, but you will never have had the quality! Or buy a great pair now and your set for life.

col_temp
December 18, 2013, 01:19 PM
where are you finding votex tallons that cheap on sale?

Check the pricing at Optics Planet. You can get the some of the vortex's for list less the 10% off sale. And it is bundled with a gift certificate!

redneck2
December 21, 2013, 02:40 PM
I use a set of Leupold Mojave-3's in 10x50. Optic quality is absolutely excellent. They are a little heavy and kinda big, but it's a trade-off. I got them for less than 1/2 price in the Cabelas bargain cave. If I were just buying normally, I'd have gotten something in maybe 8x42. Would be a little smaller.

I would REALLY suggest a good bino harness. I have one from Cabelas that has hoods over both ends. Makes carrying them quite easy and comfortable. Use them for deer hunting in the midwest, but particularly for pronghorn and PD's out west.

I hated paying that for binos until I used them in Montana. All the other guys on the trip ended up using them at times

Buzsaw
December 31, 2013, 10:24 AM
Brunton Echo 10x42 binoculars are a good value, as are the Vortex line. Leupold of course as well. I hunted with Swaroski 8x30 loaners a couple of years ago and except for weight, they had nothing on the Bruntons. Good customer service from Brunton as well.

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