Ruger Commander 1911 for ccw?


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Arizonagunrunner
December 9, 2013, 03:29 PM
Would this weapon make for an everyday ccw?
I carry a KAHR CW45 now. But I prefer the 1911 style weapons.

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Mat, not doormat
December 9, 2013, 03:51 PM
Plenty of people carry all steel full size 1911s, so I don't see why you couldn't. Standard caveats apply; make sure to test your gun/mag/ammo combination thoroughly before you stake your life on it, to make sure all the elements play nice together.

I carry a Commander myself, but mine's the lightweight version.

critter
December 9, 2013, 04:24 PM
Just got one. Really nicely made, 100% reliable and quite accurate. You could do a LOT worse!

9mmepiphany
December 9, 2013, 05:42 PM
Really nicely made, 100% reliable and quite accurate.
This isn't a criticism, just curious, when you say, "100% reliable", how many hundreds of rounds are you basing that on?

How many rounds between cleanings?

gym
December 11, 2013, 12:51 PM
I am picking one up, "used" tomorrow, for little more than a para GI. I will give it a good once over. But the man lives here in my town, and seemed very animate that the gun has performed 100% with over 400 rounds through it.
He said not a mark on it, the CMD.

BP Hunter
December 11, 2013, 01:01 PM
If you decide to carry the commander as your CCW, I would recommend the aliengear holster. For only $29.98, it beats the more expensive versions. I have 2 for my Stoeger Cougar compact and Glock 19. They are the most comfortable hoslter I have ever owned, and as many, I have a whole drawer of holsters that I have tried.

https://aliengearholsters.com/

rockhopper46038
December 11, 2013, 01:05 PM
I just picked up a 9mm Combat Commander I plan having made into a 9x23 Win. gun for carry. I think they make great sense as a CC weapon. I currently carry either a 5" Government or a 4" Officer's/Compact, both in .45ACP, but the Officer's grip is just slightly too small for real comfort (and I hate giving up a round). The Commander seems like it will be just about perfect - the right sized grip for my hands, and a slightly more concealable slide length.

As for reliability, my personal opinion is that I need quite a few more than 400 rounds through it, but that's a good start! (Yeah, I know. Proving out a 9x23 Win for carry purposes is going to be expensive; but at least I reload.)

Sulaco
December 11, 2013, 01:14 PM
I carried one for a while. It isn't any easier to conceal than a full-size gun and I think the balance and performance is a little better with the full-size anyway.

Mine was problem-free with almost 200 rounds from 0-200 except one failure to eject which was my fault (limp-wristing). Other than that single round I never had a problem. It was pretty loose, but it shot great so I guess the frame to slide fit wasn't as important as the barrel to bushing fit (which was nice and tight).

gym
December 13, 2013, 06:45 PM
I held off on my purchase. I am recalling carrying other full size an midsize 1911's and at my age I decided to give it more thought. It was a good deal at $600.00. But for $50 more I saw plenty on Armslist. And honestly I am torn between a CZ P06, and a commander. I started thinking about the weight again. I do carry all the time which would mean alternating guns indoors. "I can't see walking around the house with a 1911 all day" so I would have to use one of my mini 9's, where as with the CZ, I might be able to get away with it.
But I don't want to hijack the thread, If you only carry when you are outside, or have other guns, then it's a good choice.

Ben86
December 14, 2013, 05:35 AM
As long as you can stand the weight commander length 1911s make fine CC weapons. Ideally they have lighter aluminum frames for carry, but like I said if the weight doesn't bother you go for it even though it's steel framed. Just make sure to get a really good belt and holster.

I am holding out for a Ruger Lightweight Commander 1911 in 9mm. To me the Com. length in 9mm is the ultimate 1911.

moxie
December 14, 2013, 08:18 AM
As far as I know, Ruger does not make a Commander. Colt does. The Ruger SR1911 is made in a Commander-like version, the SR1911CMD. It is offered only in steel, only in .45ACP. I haven't tried the Ruger and I'm sure it's an excellent gun, but it's not a Commander, and doesn't come in lightweight or 9mm configurations. Not yet anyway.

19-3Ben
December 14, 2013, 07:12 PM
As far as I know, Ruger does not make a Commander. Colt does. The Ruger SR1911 is made in a Commander-like version, the SR1911CMD.

And just like we call short barreled AR-15's "M4 carbine" even though they are technically not, and we call all tissues "Kleenex" it's just a term used to describe the pattern of the gun. Sure, you're technically correct. The Ruger is a "Commander Clone" or whatever you'd want to call it. But c'mon.

moxie
December 14, 2013, 07:26 PM
Sorry but I'm unaware that 4 1/4 " 1911s are now being called Commanders generically. I call my 16" AR "M4 profile." But yeah, I call all tissues Kleenex.

Nickb45
December 14, 2013, 07:58 PM
I have a CMD, it has been completely reliable, I put 1000 rounds of HAP bullets thru it before it went into carry rotation, same load as the XTP's I carry. I haven't had any issues, I have close to 6000 down the pipe (had the pistol since September).

I carry it all day every day with a good belt and good OWB holster from CCS Gunwear. It conceals alright OWB but it also pretty comfortable and conceals great IWB with a holster from firearmholster.com.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/545F6720-922E-439E-A0A4-18B1131D53BA-13427-00000D8E30144297_zps880f63f7.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/545F6720-922E-439E-A0A4-18B1131D53BA-13427-00000D8E30144297_zps880f63f7.jpg.html)
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http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/652419F5-C7D6-4C39-8FA9-3AEE383D45D8-815-000000A5AE680B4F_zps732d3eb3.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/652419F5-C7D6-4C39-8FA9-3AEE383D45D8-815-000000A5AE680B4F_zps732d3eb3.jpg.html)
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/DC0C53AD-8F6F-40CE-B488-E696F0C088DA-8786-000008F48B3D6ACF_zpsad33190a.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/DC0C53AD-8F6F-40CE-B488-E696F0C088DA-8786-000008F48B3D6ACF_zpsad33190a.jpg.html)

moxie
December 14, 2013, 08:15 PM
That OWB and the Ruger make a real sweet rig!

Nickb45
December 14, 2013, 08:34 PM
That OWB and the Ruger make a real sweet rig!


Thanks. The belt and holster are very comfortable. The maker is local (central Washington) he's a real good guy, and does real nice work, everything on that rig is hand stitched.

9mmepiphany
December 14, 2013, 09:51 PM
Sorry but I'm unaware that 4 1/4 " 1911s are now being called Commanders generically. I call my 16" AR "M4 profile." But yeah, I call all tissues Kleenex.
I wasn't aware that most people weren't. While I usually write Commander length, I seem to be in the minority. I do object to folks calling 4" 1911s Commanders

Mat, not doormat
December 14, 2013, 10:13 PM
I wasn't aware that most people weren't. While I usually write Commander length, I seem to be in the minority. I do object to folks calling 4" 1911s Commanders

I think the word the gun world is looking for here is faux-mander. Much like M-4gery.

gym
December 14, 2013, 10:37 PM
What am I missing, is that a bobbed Ruger SR1911 Cmd? or a different model?

Nickb45
December 14, 2013, 11:31 PM
What am I missing, is that a bobbed Ruger SR1911 Cmd? or a different model?


Yes it's a bobbed CMD.

SHOOT1SAM
December 15, 2013, 12:05 AM
rockhopper 46038:I just picked up a 9mm Combat Commander I plan having made into a 9x23 Win. gun for carry.

rockhopper, I'm confused. Isn't the 9X23 Win. a 10mm case necked down to 9mm? Can the breechface of the slide be converted to the larger case head? Will the magazine accomodate the longer case?

Sam

SHOOT1SAM
December 15, 2013, 12:08 AM
Nickb45,

What kind of wood are those grips made out of, and you showing a single pair, or two different sets? The wood on the right side is beautiful.

Sam

Nickb45
December 15, 2013, 02:40 AM
Nickb45,



What kind of wood are those grips made out of, and you showing a single pair, or two different sets? The wood on the right side is beautiful.



Sam


The wood on the pistol when holstered is black and white ebony. The grips when the pistol is by itself are grips I borrowed to get numbers off of to make my own.

I have a few sets made up.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/EACC34ED-31F9-465D-8994-BA6919BD0111-815-000000CBE8B742F0_zps49ea52d6.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/EACC34ED-31F9-465D-8994-BA6919BD0111-815-000000CBE8B742F0_zps49ea52d6.jpg.html)
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/8F98B53D-8CF9-4996-B248-2B9911EB68E9-815-000000CBE303FBB3_zps9494ce83.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/8F98B53D-8CF9-4996-B248-2B9911EB68E9-815-000000CBE303FBB3_zps9494ce83.jpg.html)
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/F455E382-6FB8-4548-ACB3-C014CF996204-815-000000CBDD38221C_zps4f8b1e85.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/F455E382-6FB8-4548-ACB3-C014CF996204-815-000000CBDD38221C_zps4f8b1e85.jpg.html)

The ones I just posted are all slims.
Snakewood
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/460230F5-C16C-4A31-94F4-A81581A13EC0-5520-000005E335584A22_zps44ad6008.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/460230F5-C16C-4A31-94F4-A81581A13EC0-5520-000005E335584A22_zps44ad6008.jpg.html)

Amboyna burl
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/9493A7E2-DA8D-4444-B3F1-8364F30CFA41-5520-000005E32F152E98_zps8abba7e8.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/9493A7E2-DA8D-4444-B3F1-8364F30CFA41-5520-000005E32F152E98_zps8abba7e8.jpg.html)
Spalted maple
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/E99D2AB0-EDAF-4DEA-8A70-D844A46357CF-1082-000000CAD9FD67A5_zpsa65fdb7e.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/E99D2AB0-EDAF-4DEA-8A70-D844A46357CF-1082-000000CAD9FD67A5_zpsa65fdb7e.jpg.html)

More black&white.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/E9CC4E5A-905E-43A5-BC64-4995343A06F6-5520-000005E33E3DA982_zps8c0e5e82.jpg

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t365/nicksb45/6E1DD8CB-A05B-4F09-8295-599DB9AA5DC4-5520-000005E343EAFB69_zpsb4c901e5.jpg (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/nicksb45/media/6E1DD8CB-A05B-4F09-8295-599DB9AA5DC4-5520-000005E343EAFB69_zpsb4c901e5.jpg.html)

SHOOT1SAM
December 15, 2013, 12:10 PM
VERY NICE!! I especially like the last 2 pics.

Sam

gym
December 15, 2013, 01:50 PM
That's more than a little handy. You do professional grade work. Did you ever do work for others? Like bobbing or custom grips, etc?
What did you use to het the roll marks off the slide?

Nickb45
December 15, 2013, 05:11 PM
That's more than a little handy. You do professional grade work. Did you ever do work for others? Like bobbing or custom grips, etc?

What did you use to het the roll marks off the slide?


Thank you.
I do grips for people if they sell. All of the grips posted besides the spalted maple and the darker set of black&white are still available.
I have not done any work on other peoples pistols, I will probably be bobbing a buddies pistol and at least drilling the hole for another friend sometime soon. I milled the roll marks off of the slide, I think it was about .006 per side, then bead blasted the slide and used a granite block with sand paper taped to it to polish/grain the sides.

It's pretty easy stuff for me considering my trade and the tools/equipment I have access to. I work on a lot more expensive parts with a lot tighter tolerances everyday... That still doesn't stop the nervousness before I start cutting on a pistol.

420Stainless
December 15, 2013, 05:27 PM
I think Commanders are very nice carry guns if you can conceal it well. Around here with the humidity I generally will only carry mine on cold winter days when I can wear a long cover shirt or coat in comfort. We've been able to get close again over the last month:). I don't have experience with the Ruger version, but have to believe it would be a fine choice.

gym
December 15, 2013, 05:42 PM
In my youth I worked fo my dad in a Defense plant, we were Govt. Subcontractors. It was a small "in comparison" to the "republics and Grumman's", of the day, 1,500 people in 3 buildings. But had access to the Machine shop, "which I wish I had today", I could use any of the bending cutting anodizing, etc. machines which I no longer have access to. And if I didn't know how to do something the master machinists there could build anything from scratch, and did. One guy used to cut a dime around the profile of the head and hand them out. I used to make my own keys, for anything from scratch, they had magic hands and enjoyed teaching their craft, many were of German heritage, they were real craftsman.
I sure wish I had the use of a few of those machines today.
You are making me want to Bob a commander, from your pistol. I just don't have the tools anymore, maybe if you decide to start doing it as a side line you would let us know. I assume you also did the checkering on the front strap? It came out really nice.

Nickb45
December 15, 2013, 08:34 PM
In my youth I worked fo my dad in a Defense plant, we were Govt. Subcontractors. It was a small "in comparison" to the "republics and Grumman's", of the day, 1,500 people in 3 buildings. But had access to the Machine shop, "which I wish I had today", I could use any of the bending cutting anodizing, etc. machines which I no longer have access to. And if I didn't know how to do something the master machinists there could build anything from scratch, and did. One guy used to cut a dime around the profile of the head and hand them out. I used to make my own keys, for anything from scratch, they had magic hands and enjoyed teaching their craft, many were of German heritage, they were real craftsman.

I sure wish I had the use of a few of those machines today.

You are making me want to Bob a commander, from your pistol. I just don't have the tools anymore, maybe if you decide to start doing it as a side line you would let us know. I assume you also did the checkering on the front strap? It came out really nice.



I need to have the front strap done... That's an $8 piece of thin metal from wilson combat on the front strap.

I haven't decided to spend the $300 on the fixtures and files to checker front straps.

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