The fact about supressors


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Kobun
March 28, 2004, 08:54 PM
Time and time again I keep reading from those of you that are in the US that "a suppressor is NO use unless you have subsonic ammo".
"The *CRACK* form the bullet is so loud a suppressor has no use"...
and so on.

This is a grave missunderstanding!

A suppressed firearm is much more comfortable to shoot than one without a suppressor, even with supersonic ammunition.

What the suppressor does is reduce the velocity of the GASSES coming out, letting them out over an extended period (compared to without a suppressor).
This reduces or eliminates the muzzle blast or repport.

A supersonic bullet will still be loud, but not that loud.
The BOOM you hear is mostly the muzzle blast.

You can without any problem, and with only slight discomfort shoot supersonic ammo without additional hearing protection.

Outdoors is no problem, and I have myself shot 5-6 rounds indoors with a suppressed .223, after that, it became too uncomfortable.

Please STOP believing that hollywierd makes documentaries about the use and effects of firearms! It only makes yourself look ignorant.

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XLMiguel
March 28, 2004, 09:03 PM
Thanks for sharing your experience, and your point is well taken. Unfortunately, what too many people believe way too much of the crap they see on TV, about guns and everything else. I guess a lot of the blame goes to the minions of the politically correct and the public school system that spends way too much effort in indoctrinating youngs in what to think rather than how to think.

Skol, dude:cool:

Kenneth Lew
March 28, 2004, 10:16 PM
If your ears give you discomfort due to the noise, its probably bad for your ears.

Kenneth Lew

blades67
March 28, 2004, 11:14 PM
The only people that would say suppressors don't work with supersonic ammunition are the ones that have never used a suppressor. Yes, they're quieter with subsonic ammunition because there's no sonic crack. That doesn't mean suppressors are less effective with supersonic ammunition, sometimes that sonic crack helps to better hide your position through aural confusion.

Travis McGee
March 28, 2004, 11:40 PM
The muzzle blast is what "points" to the shooter. The sonic crack is made by the passing bullet, and will misdirect those who are hunting for the shooter.

entropy
March 29, 2004, 11:10 AM
The supersonic 'crack' will be at a 90 deg. angle to the line of fire. This, as mentioned, can aid in concealing where the round came from. I used to shoot an M1903A3, (unsupressed:( ) down a power line swath. The 'cracks' would follow along the posts, but would sound like they were coming off the side of the post 90 deg. relative to me. I also noticed while using an Mp5SD that the supressor would sort of 'throw' the sound indoors, sort of a Spec Ops ventriloquist.;)

sturmruger
March 29, 2004, 11:21 AM
Entropy I see you live here in WI. Have you gone through all the hassles to be able to own a suppresor here in WI?? I have been thinking about it, but have not gotten around to applying, or sending in my $200 tax.

entropy
March 29, 2004, 03:49 PM
No, Uncle Sam owned the one on the MP5. I have looked into it, but I've been bitten by the Milsurp bug, and $200 just for the tax would buy a lot of Mosin Nagants.:D
As far as I know, the 'hassle' involves filling out the proper forms, and having a Class III dealer transfer it to you upon approval and payment of the $200 tax stamp.
First go to www.atf.treas.gov , and read up on the regs, then get a hold of Steve Lauer at Lauer Custom Weaponry in Chipppewa Falls. www.lauerweaponry.com He is a Class II Manufacturer. I also have the phone number (715) 720-6128. There is a C&S Firearms in Amery that advertises in SGN that they will do Form 4 transfers. The phone # is, (715) 268-4081. I don't know anything more about them.
Read up and give Lauer a call first. If they can't find what you need, they can make it!;)

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