Can't Find me that .22 Mag!


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Woogies
December 13, 2013, 09:50 AM
So I purchased a NAA Mini revolver for deep/backup carry. I specially got the .22 mag version (with LR cylinder) for that extra 'punch'. However like most of you out there, I literally can not find any Mags. All I need is 5 rounds! I can shoot .22LR all day, but I would like to carry Mags.

Does anybody have leads on decently price Mags OR better yet does anyone have 5-20rds they could sell me :D. I'm getting desperate, these hoarders are ruining it for everyone else :P

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Hickok44
December 13, 2013, 10:01 AM
the last ones I saw were at Cabelas. they were 15 dollars for a box of 50.
OUCH!!!!
I have 3 boxes for my single six. Very expensive round to shoot

akv3g4n
December 13, 2013, 10:21 AM
I've never purchased anything from these outfits but they seem to have them in stock. A little pricey to say the least but if you need 'em you need 'em.

I bought a pug shortly after the banic and love the little guy. Had to hit up a friend for some ammo though. I feel your pain.

https://alamoammo.com/rifle-ammo/22-mag-wmr/22-mag-cci-30-gr-poly-tip-v-max-50-rnds-m-id-0073-upc-076683000736?#xml

Or a little cheaper round....

http://www.tactical-raleigh.com/catalog/product.asp?pid=1033539&ret_id=1344879

Woogies
December 13, 2013, 10:57 AM
Kinda depressing to see .22 rounds at over $.50 a round. That's more expensive than I use to buy my 7.62 at!

Hamfisted
December 13, 2013, 11:59 AM
Everything rimfire is in short supply before Christmas... probably have better luck after. Hopefully we'll all have better luck after the '14 elections ...


-Mike

Woogies
December 13, 2013, 12:20 PM
I can still get .22LR locally for relativity cheap (~.12/rd). All I need is 5 stinking .22 Mag rounds to carry! :p

351 WINCHESTER
December 13, 2013, 12:29 PM
Maybe you should post your location as if you are legal to own I'm sure someone here would gladly give you 5 rounds, maybe more.

.455_Hunter
December 13, 2013, 02:01 PM
Funny thing, at least in Denver metro, I have seen way more .22 Mag existing on shelves than .22 LR.

Mike1234567
December 13, 2013, 02:08 PM
I would offer to sell a 50rnd box of Hornady 45gr ammo good for SD but I won't sell it for less than I can buy it for. Many folks will call it gouging so I'll just hold onto it. Sorry... :(

Woogies
December 13, 2013, 05:03 PM
Maybe you should post your location as if you are legal to own I'm sure someone here would gladly give you 5 rounds, maybe more"

That might help :p. I'm in Northern IL, about hour from Chicago (NOT in cook county). 22, and can gladly supply a FOID/DL/CC.

I would offer to sell a 50rnd box of Hornady 45gr ammo good for SD but I won't sell it for less than I can buy it for. Many folks will call it gouging so I'll just hold onto it. Sorry...

Maybe just sell me 5-10 rds ;)

Mike1234567
December 13, 2013, 05:42 PM
Maybe just sell me 5-10 rds ;)

To be honest... I'd rather give them to you than be accused of gouging. PM me for a few rounds of free .22 WMR.

wnycollector
December 13, 2013, 08:59 PM
Here (http://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/category/22M0/22-HMR-RIFLE-AMMUNITION.html) is some armscor JHP for $0.34/round. I have used this ammo in my NAA and it shoots pretty well.

Nite Ryder
December 13, 2013, 10:09 PM
I too have one of those mini revolvers made by North American Arms. I hope you are not planning to use it for anything more serious than casual plinking. It is certainly not fit to provide protection for home defense, once you fire the five rounds this particular firearm must be disassembled to reload it. An article in American Rifleman a few months ago lead me to believe anyone who thinks a 22 magnum is good for self defense is foolhardy. The only thing a NAA mini revolver has going for it is it is easy to conceal, but why bother when it is almost worthless for any task it may be needed for?

Teachu2
December 13, 2013, 10:46 PM
I too have one of those mini revolvers made by North American Arms. I hope you are not planning to use it for anything more serious than casual plinking. It is certainly not fit to provide protection for home defense, once you fire the five rounds this particular firearm must be disassembled to reload it. An article in American Rifleman a few months ago lead me to believe anyone who thinks a 22 magnum is good for self defense is foolhardy. The only thing a NAA mini revolver has going for it is it is easy to conceal, but why bother when it is almost worthless for any task it may be needed for?
It's a point-of-contact weapon. In my LEO days, I carried a High Standard derringer in 22mag as a deep BUG, knowing that if I stuck it in their ear and pulled the trigger, it would end the fight.

Nite Ryder
December 14, 2013, 12:31 AM
It's a point-of-contact weapon. In my LEO days, I carried a High Standard derringer in 22mag as a deep BUG, knowing that if I stuck it in their ear and pulled the trigger, it would end the fight.
I have a High Standard Derringer in 22 mag also and consider it more of a novelty than a serious gun for protection. One of our local Sheriff Deputies found out the hard way that two shots from a High Standard Derringer is not always enough, he fired those two shots after he was locked in one of the cells at the jail. If you can always count on getting close enough for a shot in the ear, then I say go for it. During class at our police academy in the 70's, our instructor told the class never to carry a derringer because they were dangerous and the cause of accidental discharges. I took him at his word.

Hunter2011
December 14, 2013, 01:02 AM
Can I ask.
In a gun with such a short barrel, does the .22 Magnum really offer much more than say a .22LR Stinger or Yellow Jacket? About how much is the difference really?

David E
December 14, 2013, 10:25 AM
I have a hard time believing there are people hoarding .22 magnum ammo.

Unlike .22 LR, few people own a .22 mag, fewer still care if they have 1000's of rounds for it.

Of course, if you can't find it, you can't find it, regardless of the reason why.

danez71
December 14, 2013, 10:49 AM
I would offer to sell a 50rnd box of Hornady 45gr ammo good for SD but I won't sell it for less than I can buy it for. Many folks will call it gouging so I'll just hold onto it. Sorry... :(


I don't think anyone with any scruples could consider that gouging. If you marked it up 3-4x of what you paid for it... then all bets are off.

Walkalong
December 14, 2013, 10:54 AM
Three or four years ago I bought five different kinds of the newer "high tech" .22 Mag ammo to test in my NAA .22 Mag. I bought an extra fifty of the one I liked, so I have that and parts of the other five 50 round boxes.

I buy cheaper standard fodder ($80 per 500) .22 Mag 500 at a time to shoot in my Colt revolver. I was in the middle of one of those when the craziness hit.

A couple of months ago Midway USA sent me an alert for some Gold Dot .22 Mag, and I was tempted, as it was still in stock, but I passed because I didn't really need it, and figured I had enough to last until everything came back.

Just crazy times.

Walkalong
December 14, 2013, 10:55 AM
Can I ask.
In a gun with such a short barrel, does the .22 Magnum really offer much more than say a .22LR Stinger or Yellow Jacket? About how much is the difference really?
Yes, there is.

CraigC
December 14, 2013, 11:58 AM
The .22Mag is going to outperform the .22LR no matter the barrel length.

Hunter2011
December 14, 2013, 12:53 PM
But by how much?

Mike1234567
December 14, 2013, 02:50 PM
I don't think anyone with any scruples could consider that gouging. If you marked it up 3-4x of what you paid for it... then all bets are off.
The cheapest I've found it here is $23 per 50 plus time and travel expenses. That's CRAZY expensive. I can't charge a dollar a round for .22 WMR... I just can't even though I can't get it for less... unless I buy many boxes. And I'm not paying those insane prices so... I'd be letting mine go for less than for what I can get it for and I won't do that either. I've given away a few boxes as gifts but.....

cdb1
December 14, 2013, 09:00 PM
I just lucked in to some CCI 40 grain HP. I will sell you a box for my my cost- $11.99, plus shipping. My zip code is 76226. PM me if you want it.

KenW.
December 14, 2013, 09:43 PM
I had to order my last two boxes through the internet.

CraigC
December 15, 2013, 12:40 AM
But by how much?
Usually at least 200-300fps.

Hunter2011
December 15, 2013, 01:38 AM
Usually at least 200-300fps.
That is much more than I expected. I thought in 1.5'' or shorter barrels the difference is only something like 80 fps or so. I know I read it somewhere. In 3'' barrels and up, yes, there come the big gap.

David E
December 15, 2013, 01:50 AM
I don't think anyone with any scruples could consider that gouging. If you marked it up 3-4x of what you paid for it... then all bets are off.
I have .22 magnum I paid $5.00 for many years ago. If the going price is $15-$20, I'm gouging if I sell it at current replacement cost?

Walkalong
December 15, 2013, 09:53 AM
Some velocities in a NAA Mini:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=6565441&postcount=1

Years and years ago before I even dreamed of having a chrono, late 70's, I shot stuff with the .22 Mag vs the .22 LR, and that is what sold me on .22 Mag for a NAA Mini.

Salmoneye
December 15, 2013, 09:59 AM
Funny thing, at least in Denver metro, I have seen way more .22 Mag existing on shelves than .22 LR.

Same around the Burlington, Vermont area all through the 'crisis'...

Plenty of .22 Mag on shelves, but pricey...

David E
December 15, 2013, 11:29 AM
In the ammo shortage of 08-09, there was .17 HMR and .22 magnum anytime I looked on the shelves. Not this time.

MICHAEL T
December 15, 2013, 11:46 PM
I have 22 mag NAA with the 22LR cyl. All the 22 mag does is give lot more recoil, noise, and flash . Out of these short barrels , not worth the expense. If I was going to carry for a back up or self defense. I would leave at home . I would use my Beretta 950 in 25 auto with ball . More rounds better penetration and accuracy . And if I ever needed to reload I don't have to disassemble the pistol.

NAA used to have on their site the information as to FPS and penetration in jell. You need around 4" to get the 22 mag to start moving . Remember its a rifle round.

farm23
December 16, 2013, 09:19 AM
Now there are 22wmr made for short barrel revolvers and they are more effective than 22lr. Hornady Critical Defense 22wmr claims 1000fps from a 17/8 barrel with a 45gr bullet. It is very effective on small game and I prefer it to my 25acp.

Walkalong
December 16, 2013, 09:40 AM
Hornady Critical Defense 22wmr claims 1000fps from a 17/8 barrel with a 45gr bulletI bought a box of 50 of those at a gun show recently. I need to chrono them from my 1 5/8" Mini and my 6" Colt.

For those who think there is no, or not much, difference in .22 LR and .22 Mag from a short barreled Mini, they need to actually shoot some stuff side by side with them. Yes, it does come at the cost of a lot more flash/bang.

Hunter2011
December 16, 2013, 10:03 AM
Look at this thread.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=539222
There does not seem to be much difference. Yes, at this low level, any improvement might be worth it, but I am not convinced.

788Ham
December 16, 2013, 11:05 PM
I was in the new Cabela's today in Thornton, CO, the only .22's on the shelf were .22 mags! Must have been 25 boxes of 50 rds, don't recall now how much, but not a single box of .22 LR ! There must have been 50 boxes of 17 cal., crazy times! The staff said they have no idea if, and when anymore .22 LR rds will come in.

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