I have found THE 1911 I need!


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22/22mag
March 29, 2004, 02:43 AM
Guys this is it.The picture is to small I left the magazine at work will post better picture latter.Realy what else is there after this gun?Oh I know some will say to flashy, but after my nickle plated Springfield .38 super this will top it.Wonder how much this 1911 would cost??

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WhoKnowsWho
March 29, 2004, 03:21 AM
Custom made and custom hand engraved? I was just reading about it... my estimate is $4000+

Tamara
March 29, 2004, 08:14 AM
What I don't get is that if you know you are going to write an article bragging on your "dream 1911" and you know it's going to be featured in an ultra-closeup Ichiro Nagata photo spread, then why in dog's name wouldn't you make sure all the small toolmarks were polished out?

(...and line those frickin' grip screw heads up, too. Sheesh. :uhoh: )

R-Tex12
March 29, 2004, 11:59 AM
Tamara beat me to it.

R-Tex

edited to add: Is it just me or is the checkering on the outside edge of the slide stop a bit wobbly?

El Tejon
March 29, 2004, 12:05 PM
My eyes, my eyes!

Pendragon
March 30, 2004, 03:52 AM
Uh, all I see is a postage stamp with a gun on it.

If you can see tool marks, you have mutant powers.

Tamara
March 30, 2004, 08:42 AM
If you can see tool marks, you have mutant powers.

...or my own copy of the magazine, silly. ;)

Sean Smith
March 30, 2004, 09:07 AM
I saw the magazine, and thought the engraved gun looked pretty rough, too. And was it just me, or was the engraving itself kind of uneven?

:confused:

My understanding is that really top-flight engraving (and there aren't many people to do it, by the way) is REALLY expensive.

Tamara
March 30, 2004, 09:22 AM
And was it just me, or was the engraving itself kind of uneven?

My 'smith pointed out the uneven borders. He said that more than one good hand engraver will use some kind of machine (can't remember what he called it) to get the borders straight and even, and that it was apparent that one hadn't been used here.

Bergeron
March 30, 2004, 12:35 PM
Any chance someone could post a larger picture so that we could take a look? Sounds pretty nasty.

Sean Smith
March 30, 2004, 12:40 PM
Any chance someone could post a larger picture so that we could take a look? Sounds pretty nasty.

More a matter of context. The gun is being presented as an uber-masterpiece in the magazine, when the workmanship is sub-optimal (and Nagata's sharp photographs will show off ANY defects). I wouldn't call it "nasty," just nowhere near the hype.

Bergeron
March 30, 2004, 04:17 PM
Yeah, I don't expect it to look like a dog under closer examination, but I would like to see if I can distinguish what others have noticed.

Tamara
March 30, 2004, 10:09 PM
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't kick it out of my gun safe by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't subject it to super-macro photography and Ultimate magazine hype, either. ;)

22/22mag
April 1, 2004, 03:32 AM
Ok here is a picture.

22/22mag
April 1, 2004, 10:43 AM
Another picture

George Hill
April 1, 2004, 11:33 AM
Little errors like that, I can deal with considering that this is complete hand done art... one off... no other like it.
I think perfection is fine, but art is still art, and this is an art gun.
I find it beautiful. Just because he didn't use a jig to cut the borders? Feh...
I like it more because he didn't.

Tamara
April 1, 2004, 11:37 AM
Yeah, and the toolmarks add character. ;)

BrokenArrow
April 1, 2004, 11:50 AM
Does IN take great pix or what!?

Wonder what he could do w some silk and steel; like Tamara and a 1911... ? ;)

George Hill
April 1, 2004, 02:08 PM
So do brush strokes in a painting. :rolleyes:

Tag
April 1, 2004, 03:08 PM
AH is the only gun-rag I read, and I think they are brainwashing me. 1911 after beautiful 1911.

I don't know why the tool marks were left on the slide, but I don't think they took anything away from the gun.

Like Oleg said, it's art.

Sean Smith
April 1, 2004, 03:20 PM
So do brush strokes in a painting.

More like brush hairs stuck on the painting. ;)

George Hill
April 1, 2004, 05:16 PM
Okay... where are these glaring motes on this gun? (I don't have this magazine... so I am only seeing what's posted)

Tamara
April 2, 2004, 12:53 AM
(I don't have this magazine... so I am only seeing what's posted)

Yet you're commenting as though you've seen the photos in the magazine. Wierd. :uhoh:

(There are fine toolmarks all over the tang that have dick all to do with the engraving. Also, they couldn't even be bothered to line up the screw heads. Inexfrigginscusable on a gun that is this heavily hyped as a dream 1911.)

George Hill
April 2, 2004, 04:25 AM
No... I was never commenting like I have seen the photos in the magazine... read my posts again. I was commenting on the artistic aspect of a hand engraved handgun. There is quality that even a gun with such errors has over say a similar gun done all by machine to absolute "perfection". This is one or the reasons I perfer paintings to photographs when it comes to things I would hang on my wall and call art. I don't need an accurate recreation of something... the representiation from mere impression can be enought, and can even be more artistically appealing.

Perhaps this gun in quesiton wasn't finished when the time came to take the photos?

Delmar
April 2, 2004, 04:58 AM
Dumb question time: Where is the tang located on the 1911?

Tamara
April 2, 2004, 08:40 AM
The part of the engraving I'm talking about is the small stippling of dots atop the slide between the cocking serrations. As it rolls down over the slide towards the serrations, the dots neither fade out nor come to a sharply defined border. Again, only in that one small place do I have any quibble with the engraving. (Considering that the pistol is 100% engraved and I'm getting pretty anal about pistol aesthetics in my old age, that's a pretty durn good grade.)

I like paintings, too, but I prefer them to have frames, or at least stay on the canvas and not stray onto the wall here & there. ;)

Tamara
April 2, 2004, 08:41 AM
Dumb question time: Where is the tang located on the 1911?

The two little projections on either side of the grip safety.

22/22mag
April 2, 2004, 09:22 AM
This is one place on gun were the tool marks show.

22/22mag
April 2, 2004, 09:24 AM
Full picture.

1911Tuner
April 2, 2004, 11:54 AM
Yeah...I find the one I need about 7 or 8 times a year on average.:D
That's why I stay broke...heh

Cheers!

Tuner

George Hill
April 2, 2004, 03:13 PM
"I like paintings, too, but I prefer them to have frames, or at least stay on the canvas and not stray onto the wall here & there."

LOL... Don't have kids...
:D

Kaxter
April 3, 2004, 02:12 PM
Lol, I would have never noticed a tooling mark. Then again, I would never engrave a gun, its just something to get snagged on.

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