Who likes the 44 Special as a ccw caliber


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Hickok44
December 20, 2013, 04:51 PM
My main carry is the Rossi 720 inn 44 Special. I load my own, and shoot it a lot. As for my defensive round, I carry Blazer Gold Dots in 200 grain. I believe that if I do my part, the weapon will do its part as will the bullets I am using.
Anyone out there toat the big "44" for ccw?

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Wil Terry
December 20, 2013, 05:26 PM
YEP.

pendennis
December 20, 2013, 05:33 PM
Don't carry one right now, but I've had a S&W 696 in the rotation, with WW Silvertips.

WC145
December 20, 2013, 05:33 PM
I had a Rossi 720 years ago, probably the best gun they ever produced. I carry this a Mag-na-port custom Charter Arms Bulldog "BackPacker" from time to time. They made 250 of them back in the late '70s, mine is #128.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QQA6y1rptfo/T3ugq-CnAlI/AAAAAAAAEFs/JM0DGwuv9bU/w866-h542-no/SDC11921.JPG

Old Fuff
December 20, 2013, 05:36 PM
We just had some threads on large-bore snubbies, and yes - the .44 Special was well represented. ;)

Anyway, when I'm not carrying in a side pantís pocket, I'm fond of my Taurus 445 (Slightly larger then S&W K-frame size, 5-shot/.44 Special, 2" barrel, blued high-carbon steel with no porting).

I don't worry about high performance ammunition, simply because the primary cavity made by the bullet and bullet placement is what counts. Others can choose whatever they want.

P5 Guy
December 20, 2013, 05:42 PM
S&W 696 and I saved a bunch of 200gr LSWCHPs from Federal.

tomrkba
December 20, 2013, 05:49 PM
I like it quite a bit. I prefer it over 44 Magnum.

Liberty1776
December 20, 2013, 11:11 PM
I carry my Taurus Tracker 5" .44 Mag with .44 Special loads - does that count?

Sam1911
December 20, 2013, 11:16 PM
I usually carry a hot .44 Spc. load in my 629 when using it as my "social work" gun.

Tony_the_tiger
December 20, 2013, 11:23 PM
I do!

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae269/kiwirat33/296Distribution_zps50ce5920.jpg

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae269/kiwirat33/296expose_zps5ee8ce38.jpg

460Kodiak
December 21, 2013, 01:50 AM
Love the concept. Don't own one yet

Eb1
December 21, 2013, 01:57 AM
I do sometimes with a Rossi M720 as well, and I find that it shoots heavy bullets better. It likes 240 grain or heavier.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=163410&d=1335375972

gspn
December 21, 2013, 01:58 AM
If the .44 special was good enough for Jelly Bryce then who am I to argue against it? I like the round, but the only gun i have chambered in it is too nice to risk having to fork it over to the police in the very unlikely event that i had to actually use it. Id feel a lot better about losing a Glock than a Nice S&W 44 Spcl.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
December 21, 2013, 05:27 AM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/prizzel/CopyofCharter44-horz.jpg

joed
December 21, 2013, 07:05 AM
I carried a .44 Spl for a few years. Finnally gave it up though as the ammo got hard to find and became expensive. I still have my share of Spl revolvers but don't use them as CCW.

PRM
December 21, 2013, 07:15 AM
Love the round and have a custom Colt Bisley in that caliber. I have carried it, but it's a little on the large and heavy size. It is definitely a dedicated carry. Most days I grab something smaller and easier to conceal.

Geezer Glide
December 21, 2013, 07:53 AM
I've got a cut down Bull Dog that makes a great carry gun.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h174/horry_dresser/bulldog_zps9a341f61.jpg

cwl1862
December 21, 2013, 09:47 AM
I have three 44 Spl's that I occasionally carry, a S&W 696-0, a first gen Charter Bulldog with a bobbed hammer and a Taurus 445UL. All excellent revolvers. I also have a S&W 629-0 44 Mag but that monster is too big to practically carry on a daily basis so the 629 is strictly my hunting 44. I carry the Speer 200 gr Gold Dots in all my SD 44 Spl's. However in the Mag I carry the Win 210gr Silvertip HP. Shot one deer with that load and it dropped as if hit be the hammer of Thor. :D

eldon519
December 21, 2013, 10:06 AM
The Cor-bon 200gr DPX is really impressive.

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Corbon%2044%20Special%20DPX%20Report.htm

40-82
December 21, 2013, 10:37 AM
The 44 Special is one of my favorites in either a six gun chambered to 44 Special or in a short barreled 44 magnum. The extra weight of the magnum aids in rapid fire. I like the specials in the magnums well enough that I only load my 44 magnums on those occasions when I expect to need either the range or the power they offer.

DM~
December 21, 2013, 10:38 AM
I have a "K" frame S&W (M-19) in 44 spl., i pretty much don't carry it at all anymore...

For hunting i carry a M-29 and for SD i find myself carrying a .357 mag. more...

DM

Monster Zero
December 21, 2013, 12:57 PM
I've got a cut down Bull Dog that makes a great carry gun.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h174/horry_dresser/bulldog_zps9a341f61.jpg
Oh, that is sweet. I'm getting ideas...

WC145
December 21, 2013, 04:20 PM
I have a "K" frame S&W (M-19) in 44 spl., i pretty much don't carry it at all anymore...
You need to post some pics and more info on that .44spl M19!

rodinal220
December 21, 2013, 08:57 PM
I like my Charter SS 44 Bulldog. Its a newer one and so far it has been a solid performer. I have on occasion carried my Ruger Sheriffs Model 3-3/8th 44 spl when I work at my buddies gun shop with the Charter as backup.

roadliner
December 21, 2013, 11:47 PM
I'm down to just the Rossi 720 and an older Charter Arms Bulldog fir my 44 special collection. Used to carry both back in the day, now mostly poly 45 auto's.

farm23
December 22, 2013, 08:39 AM
As I have said in other threads I carry a 44 virtually every day. It is a 44mag but I mostly carry BB 44 spl. I know the BB 44 spl will kill a deer with one shot [inside 50 yards]and the perceived recoil is less than my 357. The gun is heavier than a light S&W, Taurus or Charter Arms and when I have the money I will probably get a Charter Arms for daily carry. I just like big 44/45 holes over smaller faster 357.

charlie echo
December 22, 2013, 02:45 PM
What is the "BB 44 spl" load and where can I buy?

mdThanatos
December 22, 2013, 03:03 PM
Should be Buffalo Bore that he is referring to. Their website is buffalobore.com so you can see what offerings they have. 180 gr - 255 gr. 1000 fps - 1150 fps.

DM~
December 22, 2013, 03:11 PM
You need to post some pics and more info on that .44spl M19!

And, here it is along side my M-29,

http://www.fototime.com/F46BDBC5B449C51/standard.jpg

I had master pistol smith, Vern Ewer build it on an old M-19, many years ago.

DM

WC145
December 22, 2013, 11:13 PM
And, here it is along side my M-29,
I had master pistol smith, Vern Ewer build it on an old M-19, many years ago.

DM
Very cool. Thanks!

Deltaboy
December 22, 2013, 11:18 PM
It is on my find and get list.

Tony_the_tiger
December 23, 2013, 12:25 AM
Buffalo Bore makes several distinct .44 special offerings.

JERRY
December 23, 2013, 01:00 AM
here is my Rossi 720. great gun.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff256/JerryS357/102_8992.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/JerryS357/media/102_8992.jpg.html)

Lucky Derby
December 23, 2013, 03:34 AM
I have a 4" 624 and a 696. I carry the 624 on occasion, and have carried the 696, but the value of the 696 has gotten stupid, and it's almost as heavy as the 624, so why give up one round?
Usually though I carry a High Power or 1911.

snooperman
December 23, 2013, 07:29 AM
I have a Charter arms bulldog I bought more than 30 years ago that I like as well as my Taurus 445. The Taurus is much more comfortable to shoot and is one of the best buys. The finish on mine is the best I have seen.

snooperman
December 23, 2013, 07:38 AM
I carry plain lead wadcutters in mine and the Taurus is not Ported.

AZ Desertrat
December 23, 2013, 08:23 AM
I carry the S&W M24, 6.5inch or the 696 4inch....both work quite well...although the longer barrel is sometimes a little tough to hide.

the Black Spot
December 23, 2013, 09:37 PM
Old school CA bulldog with 240 gr xtps and a 5.5" arminius single action on sundays with speer gold dots

Lucky Derby
December 24, 2013, 01:47 AM
I carry the S&W M24, 6.5inch or the 696 4inch....both work quite well...although the longer barrel is sometimes a little tough to hide.
Is that 696 4" custom? It was only made from the factory in a 3"

.455_Hunter
December 24, 2013, 12:44 PM
I use a 4" 624 and New Vaquero Sheriff for OWB carry on a regular basis. I hope to add a vintage Charter Bulldog and early 90's Taurus 431 in the near future. Great guns and caliber!

charlie echo
January 2, 2014, 07:46 PM
Buffalo Bore makes several distinct .44 special offerings.
Yes, thank you.

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=99

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=9

markallen
January 2, 2014, 11:17 PM
EDC is a CA Bulldog in front pants pocket.
I run 240gr Hornady XTP around 850FPS out of trimmed down .44 mag brass.

Question for Geezer Glide concerning the ammo in your picture. Are those commercial rounds or handloads? And if handloads would you share the manufacturer of the bullets. I have been looking for a large meplat bullet in the 200/ 240 gr all I'm finding is the round nose with a small meplat.

Thanks.

Eb1
January 2, 2014, 11:23 PM
@markallen

Have you looked at Beartooth Bullets? They have some nice big meplat .44 caliber bullets, and they will size them to what you want.

I shoot the 265 grain out of the .44 Magnum, but they have a 250 and 240 grain with a large meplat that should work well in .44 Special.

Look at the first bullet in the list for the .44 Caliber.

http://www.beartoothbullets.com

This is the 240 grain LWN bullet:
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/images/bullets/44-240-WFNPB.jpg

Lloyd Smale
January 3, 2014, 08:05 AM
i had a 720 rossi and have to admit for a rossi it was a good gun. I also had a 396 smith for a while and now do carry my 696 on occaion.

Stainz
January 3, 2014, 09:26 AM
When both of my AMT DAO .45 ACP Backups proved they were jamomatics at the range eleven years ago, I went home, cleaned them, found their boxes, and drove to my lgs to trade them in on a pair of new S&W's - a closeout priced ($349) 296 and a regular price ($439) 696, getting $400 for the pair of bottom feeders. The 296 was for carry - the 696 was for bedside - both with 200gr GD JHPs in Blazer ammo (They were $11.99/50 locally at Academy back in the 'good old days'!). I banned the Blazers here after one split it's Al case in the 696, next using my homebrews for range use and GA Arms 200gr JHP, both the same Speer Gold Dot bullets, as carry ammo. They are reportedly still slow making them - Starline is backlogged on brass orders. All three variants, Blazer, my homebrews, and GA Arms, make 800-810 fps from the 296's 2.5" barrel, according to the range's chrono. Speer, etc, states that the Gold Dot doubles in surface area at 800 fps in ballistic gelatin - it should be a good 'stopper'.

I carried the 296 in an OWB holster - infrequently, but gripped with larger backstrap-padding Combat grips (Actually, the 696's OEM grips - it sports Ahrends cocobolo!). When R. Mika started making his grips some years back, I had him make me then a pair for both my 296 and a then yet to be owned 642. To fit ~3/4 of my britches front pockets, I had to go back to the 296's OEM boot grips... ouch! I later added a similar but smaller 642 (.38), which fits all of my pockets, as does the 351PD I added last year. Here is the 296, Mika pocket holster, GA Arms 200gr GD JHPs, and a Buck Custom Shop 110 - for scale:

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/IMG_0596.jpg

I still carry the 296 when woods bumming - with a 240gr LSWC first up, followed by 200gr GD's. Heavy lead will uncramp with the lite weight 296's rapid recoil - I've proved this!

Stainz

aarondhgraham
January 3, 2014, 11:01 AM
I recently purchased a .44 Special revolver,,,
Charter Arms Bulldog with 3" barrel.

http://www.aarondgraham.com/pics/CharterArmsBulldog.jpg

I haven't carried it at all,,,
The reason I bought it wasn't for carry,,,
I just wanted something to mate with my C. A. Pathfinder.

What a man-stopper it would be though,,,
180 grain hollow-points disintegrated a sand filled bucket.

What an appropriate name Bulldog is,,,
Short, squat, and powerful.

Aarond

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Jaymo
January 3, 2014, 11:54 PM
Charter Bulldog.
200 grain Gold Dot.
Like it a lot.

Really would like to get my old model 10 converted to .44 Spl.

RealGun
January 4, 2014, 07:58 AM
I like 44 Spl in a gun made for that caliber. I don't see the point in carrying the weight of a 44 magnum loaded with 44 Spl.

chupacabrah
January 4, 2014, 09:27 AM
no, but now I want one!

rclark
January 4, 2014, 03:13 PM
I have a CA Bulldog for CCW. Also have a Ruger .44Spec Sheriff I am contemplating for this use as well....

bubba in ca
January 4, 2014, 09:46 PM
Taurus 431 4 inch has been my HD backup gun for years and it sometimes goes for car rides with me.

The weight to power ratio makes it great to shoot, but heavy for concealed carry, but ok for car carry.

One that got away-- I had a Hawes 44 mag that I stupidly sold to buy a ruger. Dumb dumb dumd. hawes was a pleasure to shoot with 44 special and didn`t have the oversize grips, adj. sights to snag, Etc.

lowercase
January 4, 2014, 11:52 PM
Charter Bulldog for me. Old and new models.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/713/oldbulldog2.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/443/p1291054.jpg

biohazurd
January 5, 2014, 12:19 AM
If I can find a 60s-70s Charter bulldog in good condition I would be packing that in the winter. Now I'm carrying a smith 586 4" as a winter gun but its a bit on the heavy side.

tomrkba
January 5, 2014, 12:33 AM
S&W just released the Model 69. (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_827559_-1_757767_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y) It's a five shot revolver chambered in 44 Magnum. I would only shoot 44 Special through it, but you could shoot some really hot 44 Special!

Thursday45
January 5, 2014, 04:36 AM
I've carried it before during the winter when I have the opportunity to wear a big heavy coat to conceal my big heavy 629. I don't think it's a bad round. Ballistics wise it seems to be in the ballpark of some 9mm or 45 acp offerings. The difference comes in how smooth of a round it is to shoot in a heavy 629.

Now when I find this new model 69 I may carry 44 spl year round.... Until I find S&Ws newly announced model 66 :)

RealGun
January 5, 2014, 07:21 AM
Taurus 431 4 inch has been my HD backup gun for years and it sometimes goes for car rides with me.

The weight to power ratio makes it great to shoot, but heavy for concealed carry, but ok for car carry.

Because of casual modes of dress in younger people, "concealed carry" has sadly been redefined as bug guns. We have all these folks that may have a false sense of security, yet any gun is better than none, if you have to use it. The Taurus 431 is a "real gun", very well suited for more conventional concealed carry on ones belt, not in a cargo pocket.

shafter
January 5, 2014, 07:00 PM
I like the caliber, but I don't see many firearms chambered in it that I actually like or are even practically suited for concealed carry.

KSCCHTrainer
January 5, 2014, 07:14 PM
I've had a Taurus 445 stainless (2" 5 shot DAO hammerless) .44 special revolver as my carry gun for the last 3 years. I practice with it regularly and use 240 grain Hornady XTP hollowpoints in the ammo I load for it.

It's only slightly larger and heavier than a Smith Chief's Special .38, fits my pants pocket in a custom pocket holster and has been flawless in operation. In winter when I can wear pullover sweaters & sweatshirts with fairly long tails, I also have a high ride pancake style holster for belt wear that is extremely practical for concealed carry.

You may not like Taurus, for various reasons, but in the 3+ years I've owned and shot this one, it's never failed and has been as accurate as anyone can expect from a 2" barreled handgun of any kind.

With my defense loads I can keep all 5 rounds inside 4" at 20 yards and 2.5" or better at 15 yards & shorter, so in my opinion, .44 special is a very good defensive round and I like revolvers because they tend to go bang every time you pull the trigger.

Drail
January 5, 2014, 08:24 PM
.44 Magnum in an L frame? No thanks.

The_Shootist
January 5, 2014, 08:30 PM
Periodically one of my local Academy has a few in stock and I have been eyeing them. I don't reload but don't feel the ammo would break my budget at just a couple of boxes per range time every month or so.

But like everybody else I've heard past horror stories about Bulldogs and just wonder. But the recent ones I looked at seem fine with fit & finish. I also wouldn't be putting BB rounds through them, more likley wad cutters.

lowercase
January 5, 2014, 10:25 PM
How ARE The Latest Charter Bulldogs?

I have one (bottom revolver in post #52). It was made in 2012.

Mine runs great. I like to practice with 240-grain cowboy action rounds, but I carry it with 200-grain Gold Dots.

mdauben
January 6, 2014, 12:10 PM
S&W just released the Model 69. It's a five shot revolver chambered in 44 Magnum. I would only shoot 44 Special through it, but you could shoot some really hot 44 Special!
That's darn tempting. If they made a dedicated .44 spl version with an alloy frame and a 3 or 4 inch barrel, I'd be all over that.

Catshooter
January 7, 2014, 12:03 AM
A two and a half incher with a round butt would be awesome indeed!


Cat

RealGun
January 7, 2014, 07:48 AM
.44 Magnum in an L frame? No thanks.

Me neither, but maybe the Performance Center folks could put a .44 Special cylinder on it.

Kosh75287
January 7, 2014, 10:58 AM
I owned and carried a Taurus Bulldog 3-inch(?) quite a while, back in the day. I never felt unarmed with it. The factory cartridge will do anything that .45 ACP Ball ammo will do. I ran A FEW hotter rounds through it and rapidly concluded that my hand would quit before the revolver would.
When I down-loaded it a bit with BullsEye and a 215gr. SWC, it was a joy to shoot all day long, and STILL was nothing to be caught in front of. My GF at the time remarked that she thought it was easier and more fun to shoot than her Chief Special with factory wadcutters. I mentioned to her that even mild .44 Spl. loads were well into "adequate" zone in terms of stopping power, while the .38 Spl. wad cutters were marginal at best.
Unfortunately, I decided to let go of both of them. Not the smartest decision I've ever made.

tomrkba
January 24, 2014, 10:53 PM
S&W Model 24 with 3" barrel, Meprolight night sights and Ahrends stocks. The work was done at Sand Burr Gun Ranch.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/firearms/revolvers/Smith%20Model%2024/c9c725a1-80f2-4f9a-93aa-a27a0b08e873.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/firearms/revolvers/Smith%20Model%2024/2b3a90c3-46f4-47fd-bf5e-0382fe6c383e.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/firearms/revolvers/Smith%20Model%2024/photo-29-1.jpg

Lloyd Smale
January 25, 2014, 06:52 AM
That's darn tempting. If they made a dedicated .44 spl version with an alloy frame and a 3 or 4 inch barrel, I'd be all over that.


its called a 396

Hometeached1
January 25, 2014, 07:29 PM
That's darn tempting. If they made a dedicated .44 spl version with an alloy frame and a 3 or 4 inch barrel, I'd be all over that.
Me too! If i didn't have a lock I would sell my G30sf in a heart beat for one.:evil:

Hometeached1
January 25, 2014, 07:31 PM
S&W Model 24 with 3" barrel, Meprolight night sights and Ahrends stocks. The work was done at Sand Burr Gun Ranch.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/firearms/revolvers/Smith%20Model%2024/c9c725a1-80f2-4f9a-93aa-a27a0b08e873.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/firearms/revolvers/Smith%20Model%2024/2b3a90c3-46f4-47fd-bf5e-0382fe6c383e.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/firearms/revolvers/Smith%20Model%2024/photo-29-1.jpg
Very nice! I though you didn't like revolvers with less than a 4" barrel?

silicosys4
January 26, 2014, 01:09 AM
Hope its not an internet no-no to post the same picture on three different threads, but here goes :p

Its no beauty but it was my first big bore anything, and since its rattly and ugly, its pretty much retired while I look for another.

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i413/silicosys4/bulldog.jpg

Loaded with warm 200 gr. Hornady xtp handloads, I feel well armed, and despite the light weight, she still shoots pretty easy.

Drail
January 26, 2014, 01:42 AM
And I thought my old Bullpuppy looked raggedy. You win. I still love that gun though and carry it once in a while. It has never failed me yet.

carbuncle
January 26, 2014, 08:34 AM
Great thread, thanks for all the .44 sp ideas. I want to add one to the collection eventually, but it's not a priority caliber for manufacturers these days.

Catshooter
January 26, 2014, 11:33 AM
silico,

That's a beauty right there. She shows that she's been on the job protecting her master. She should wear her scars with honor.


Cat

tomrkba
January 26, 2014, 02:49 PM
Very nice! I though you didn't like revolvers with less than a 4" barrel?

I don't, but I bought it long before I figured that out in training.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
January 26, 2014, 05:09 PM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/prizzel/041f2905604c09cbd92185ac6e1fc26c.jpg

SharpsDressedMan
January 26, 2014, 05:43 PM
I don't always carry a .44 Special, but when I do................... http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx92/triemc/dosequis.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/triemc/media/dosequis.jpg.html) ........It is my Ruger Sheriff's Model! ......................... http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC06438.jpg (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/matquig/media/DSC06438.jpg.html)

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