LC9 and the Galloway Trigger Bar Modification?


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kcofohio
December 27, 2013, 10:52 PM
I have seen the Galloway trigger bar mod for the LC9 and was wondering whether those who have had it done are satisfied with the overall function of the pistol afterward.
I have watched their videos and it looks intriguing.
I don't see the trigger bar part for sale on Rugers web site, so it may be that once it has been modified, there is no turning back.
Thanks!

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Bert Retta
December 28, 2013, 12:02 AM
We ran a Legends race car for a few years with a 1200 cc Yamaha engine in it everyone was having trouble with the small engines overheating and some blowing up before the 30 lap feature races we ran were over.We were the only race team that was not struggling with a overheating problem, the reason was we ran manufactured recommended motor oil it was a Chinese brand motor oil,I talked to a Yamaha engine rep and engineer he asked why our engine was holding up I told him I ran the same motor oil that the engine builder recommended when we purchased it but had it shipped from overseas.everyone else was running american brand oils, some synthetic.my point is not to altered anything in any manufactured item other than the way it was built and designed.Your asking for trouble.

kcofohio
December 28, 2013, 05:37 AM
Nascar, nhra, etc. wouldn't exist with that thinking. Just saying.

19-3Ben
December 28, 2013, 11:53 AM
We ran a Legends race car for a few years with a 1200 cc Yamaha engine in it everyone was having trouble with the small engines overheating and some blowing up before the 30 lap feature races we ran were over.We were the only race team that was not struggling with a overheating problem, the reason was we ran manufactured recommended motor oil it was a Chinese brand motor oil,I talked to a Yamaha engine rep and engineer he asked why our engine was holding up I told him I ran the same motor oil that the engine builder recommended when we purchased it but had it shipped from overseas.everyone else was running american brand oils, some synthetic.my point is not to altered anything in any manufactured item other than the way it was built and designed.Your asking for trouble.

While that is sometimes true, there are lots of things to be taken into consideration.

When a manufacturer is looking at what specs to build as OEM, and which suppliers to use they are looking at the balance of product quality, reliability, performance, cost to them, and potential profits. All of those factor into a cost/benefit analysis.

Kind of like when i was a competitive cyclist, the idea was that you look at:
1) Low cost
2) Performance
3) Reliability.

And you have to pick two of three. You'll not find all three together.

When people are willing to invest more money in something, they can get a higher level of performance without sacrificing reliability. It's why so many rifles get aftermarket Timney triggers, and why people send so many guns to gunsmiths to get worked over.

We have more options than the manufacturers because we are not bound by the same constraints since we don't have bean counters breathing down our necks to maximize a profit margin. If it costs us another 50% to only see a 10% gain in performance, many of us make that call. We're only limited by our own personal budgets, and sometimes our budgets allow us to use better equipment than the OEM spec.

mac66
December 28, 2013, 12:34 PM
I am not adverse at changing things but I think one has to weigh cost vs. benefit. Many years as a firearms instructor, FFL, amateur gunsmith has taught me that most problems people have with guns is because they changed/modified something from the original specs. Most mods are dubious in benefit and can affect the overall reliability of one's firearm.

Mike1234567
December 28, 2013, 12:37 PM
We ran a Legends race car for a few years with a 1200 cc Yamaha engine in it everyone was having trouble with the small engines overheating and some blowing up before the 30 lap feature races we ran were over.We were the only race team that was not struggling with a overheating problem, the reason was we ran manufactured recommended motor oil it was a Chinese brand motor oil,I talked to a Yamaha engine rep and engineer he asked why our engine was holding up I told him I ran the same motor oil that the engine builder recommended when we purchased it but had it shipped from overseas.everyone else was running american brand oils, some synthetic.my point is not to altered anything in any manufactured item other than the way it was built and designed.Your asking for trouble.
Huh??

Bert Retta
December 28, 2013, 09:01 PM
Show Me any Firearm manual that DOES NOT SAY "DO NOT ALTER OR MODIFY FIREARM" They put that in there for a very good reason,So You do not injure or Kill Yourself or others.

Bert Retta
December 28, 2013, 09:02 PM
MIKE ,My point is not to alter anything in any manufactured item other than the way it was built and designed.Your asking for trouble.

DT Guy
December 28, 2013, 09:11 PM
IPSC, IDPA, Hi-Power and any other competitive shooting sport will prove your premise completely false. I don't have one single 'stock' gun, and all work BETTER for the changes.


Larry

Bert Retta
December 28, 2013, 09:38 PM
DT You agree with this statement?Show Me any Firearm manual that DOES NOT SAY "DO NOT ALTER OR MODIFY FIREARM" They put that in there for a very good reason,So You do not injure or Kill Yourself or others.

kcofohio
December 28, 2013, 10:04 PM
Seems that my original question got lost and went spiraling into debate mode.

KTXdm9
December 28, 2013, 10:37 PM
Bert, they put that in there as a CYA due to our litigious society. There is nothing wrong with modifying a pistol if you do your homework on parts and labor. I'm sure there are many folks on this forum who can verify this with their own experience, including myself.

Back to the original question, I too am intrigued by the Galloway trigger mod. I considered an LC9 when I was looking for my last CCW purchase, but was put off by the trigger.

ritepath
December 28, 2013, 11:01 PM
And to think I just polished my trigger bar a little over 30 minutes ago on my SR45. Just a few seconds on the Work Sharp and it was finished.

Didn't improve the SR near as much as my Shield but it sure looks pretty.

I modify everything from my Honda Dirt bikes to my Jeep and everything in between and that includes my self defense pistols.

kcofohio
December 28, 2013, 11:13 PM
KT, yes, the trigger on the LC9 is something that takes practice. We'll see if someone chimes in on the OP with firsthand experience. :)

CommanderCrusty
December 29, 2013, 06:59 AM
If you own multiple handguns, take them all to the range and shoot a qualification course. When I did this, I shot 94% with my custom 645, 94% with my Para LDA, 94% with my GP100 and 92% with my J-frame.

I also had a M&P and had the overpowering urge to get a trigger job. When it was done, the trigger was so light, I never felt safe carrying it on the street again. Eventually, I traded it away.

Within reason, it ain't the gun, it's the shooter, and too much of a good thing ain't a good thing any more. My vote is no. If you want a gun with a lighter DA trigger, I suggest a subcompact Sig P250 in 9mm.

DT Guy
December 29, 2013, 07:03 AM
Bert,

I must add that I also remove the tags from my mattresses; I'm just a crazy rebel when it comes to disobeying manuals.

I would ask the OP if he likes the trigger he has now on the LC9? If not, change it until you shoot it well. There's a reason no competitive shooter shoots a gun with a 'bad' trigger. Sorry I haven't tried the Galloway to comment.


Larry

kokapelli
December 29, 2013, 10:12 AM
As I understand it the Galloway Trigger Bar Modification will shorten the hammer travel as well as the trigger travel, which I am not comfortable with.

Mike1234567
December 29, 2013, 11:33 AM
MIKE ,My point is not to alter anything in any manufactured item other than the way it was built and designed.Your asking for trouble.

Bert, that's lawyer-speak only there to cover their corporate behinds. The fact is most firearms can use a little fluff-n-buff and many don't even function properly from the factory. Those who know what they're doing and take their time are doing those companies a favor. Otherwise, no one would buy their faulty firearms. Buffoons and hacks... are a different story. I only do what I know what I can do properly. Otherwise, I pay someone else to do it right.

The Galloway trigger replacement is quick, easy and safe. If one doesn't feel comfortable doing this firearm mod then, yes... one shouldn't try any at all.

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