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Biohazard1993
January 1, 2014, 01:29 PM
Hey fellow highroaders. A friend of mine was thinking about puting an a2 style buffer tube(with endcap welded so a stock can never be put on it) on an ar-15 pistol for better cheek weld. Can I simply just buy any old A2 tube and buffer combo ect, or would i need to change the actual buffer and such because of the short barrel. It is a 11.5" government with carbine gas system pistol upper from delton. Thanks a ton friends.

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Quiet
January 1, 2014, 02:04 PM
In order to provide a better check weld, why not just put a stock saddle on the pistol/carbine length buffer tube?
It would be less of a hassle and less expensive to do so.

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wally
January 1, 2014, 02:19 PM
Hey fellow highroaders. A friend of mine was thinking about puting an a2 style buffer tube(with endcap welded so a stock can never be put on it) on an ar-15 pistol for better cheek weld. Can I simply just buy any old A2 tube and buffer combo ect, or would i need to change the actual buffer and such because of the short barrel. It is a 11.5" government with carbine gas system pistol upper from delton. Thanks a ton friends.


Since you risk "manufacturing" an illeagal Shot Barreled Rifle, I strongly suggest you get a BATFE approval letter as shown in the post above before proceeding, or buy one of the already approved and manufactured "pistol arm braces".

silicosys4
January 1, 2014, 03:28 PM
Might as well just sell the pistol and buy a rifle, if you want a cheek weld.

wally
January 1, 2014, 04:55 PM
Might as well just sell the pistol and buy a rifle, if you want a cheek weld.

Better yet, spend the $200 for the BATFE tax stamp on a form 1 and manufacture a Short Barreled Rifle.

Since its takes about a year now for the paperwork to go through, lots of folks are looking to get some better use out of their pistol while waiting. I think those SIG arm braces are a nice half step, but they are overpriced IMHO at $125.

Biohazard1993
January 1, 2014, 05:05 PM
Might as well just sell the pistol and buy a rifle, if you want a cheek weld.
Yeah thats what I told my friend. I also suggested wally's idea but he's too impatient to wait a year (personally I cant blame him)... well personally i don't like the idea of paying $200 dollars and waiting a year just because a government bureau does not want me having a "rifle" with a "short barrel" but what can you do? Depressing really :(. Oh well on the bright side maybe ill get an AR pistol for cheap :D

mac66
January 2, 2014, 11:42 AM
My 11.5" pistol with CAR buffer tube. That tube happens to be a fixed stock tube bought cheap after the AWB. The stock part has been cut off. You cannot put a stock on it. I have however used regular CAR buffer tubes with a pin or sling stud affixed in a such a manner that you cannot slide a stock on them.

Some people put foam over the tube for the same reason. It is a pistol but I often shoot it from the shoulder and it is quite accurate that way. In fact I have run it in three gun competitions pretty successfully. BTW, being able to shoot it from the shoulder does not make it a SBR, just like using a spoon to dig a hole doesn't make it a shovel. There is no such thing as constructive intent unless it is machine gun parts.

The advantage of an AR pistol is that they are handy to carry, can often be carried on one's concealed weapons permit and it can be shot like a pseudo SBR without a tax stamp.

So to the OP, I say go for it, AR pistols are fun and actually pretty practical.

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Quiet
January 2, 2014, 11:49 AM
There is no such thing as constructive intent unless it is machine gun parts.
Not entirely true.

Check your states' laws.

Some states have constructive possession laws concerning SBR and SBS.

mac66
January 2, 2014, 12:10 PM
Nothing federal prevents what we are talking about. Since state and local laws vary widely I think it goes without saying that you have to comply with them.

32_d3gr33s
January 2, 2014, 01:13 PM
I've just got the foam pad on mine. I get a decent cheek weld from it. The nice thing is there isn't a ton of recoil from the 5.56 round so its fairly easy to stay on target with it fired from the cheek.
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Biohazard1993
January 4, 2014, 10:08 PM
Thanks to all for the answers... so if my friend were to put an a2 rifle length tube on it would there need to be any modifying for reliability or function with being a longer pistol barrel with carbine length gas system, or can you just slap an a2 kit in/on and call it good?

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