Rem Oil any good ?


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MR.G
March 30, 2004, 05:27 PM
Is Rem Oil any good ? Seems thin, but the can says that it contains Teflon.

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lycanthrope
March 30, 2004, 05:45 PM
I use it to lube my press. The weapons all get FP-10.

IMHO, Rem Oil is not a high pressure or high quality gun lubricant.

Feanaro
March 30, 2004, 05:47 PM
Not great stuff for firearms, IMO. I use Breakfree CLP myself.

shooter.45
March 30, 2004, 07:01 PM
Not the greatist I also user Break-Free CLP works great.

Ala Dan
March 30, 2004, 07:33 PM
Another "Break Free CLP" user checking in. I have
some "Rem Oil", but it never gets used! :( :D

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Ric
March 30, 2004, 07:41 PM
I use Snake oil from Dillon, it seems thicker and works well.

Standing Wolf
March 30, 2004, 08:02 PM
I've been using it for decades with good success.

GigaBuist
March 30, 2004, 08:16 PM
Rem Oil was used to treat my 870 when I first bought it. I try and give it a cleaning/treatment every 6 months regardless if I use it or not.

A guy that just bought his first pistol was sold Rem Oil as a cleaning and lubricating all-in-one solution. Pretty sure the guy that suggested that has some pretty abused firearms!

Hoppe's #9 or Shooter's Choice for frequent cleanings here. A Miltec treatment every now and again.

dukeofurl
March 30, 2004, 08:40 PM
True Story regarding Breakfree CLP

I was working on changing the oil in my newest acquistion in the auto department, and I literally had the oil change from hell. The drain plug would not come off. We're talking about the car was rocking on the jackstands a few millimeters when I was grunting like an ape with an AK47 trying to get the damn plug off. After spending 15 minutes under there with my 7/8 craftsman combo wrench, I was ready to get in my other car, go to Sears and buy a breaker bar to get this thing off. Then I realized that an 18" breaker bar wouldnt get decent leverage with the clearance under the car.

*lightbulb comes on*

I went into my house, opened the gun cleaning kit and took out my 12 oz can of CLP. Slid under the car, and gave two squirts of CLP on the plug where it met the oilpan. Not soaking it, but just enough to lube the bolt of an AR15. Put the wrench on the plug and mumbled a curse to the Gods of drainplug angst - one twist took it off.

I proceeded to order $35 of breakfree in 12 ounce cans.

ruger357
March 30, 2004, 09:15 PM
Use CLP on my handguns. Use Rem-Oil on my 870. Always had good luck with Rem-Oil on my shotguns and they were put through some nasty weather.

shooter.45
March 30, 2004, 09:22 PM
Bet they are all rusted inside.. :neener:

Mr. Mysterious
March 30, 2004, 09:22 PM
I use both CLP and Remoil. Good results with both...just remember that CLP is Cleaner, Lubricant, and Protector...so your gun may be dirty a month after you clean it ;)

entropy
March 30, 2004, 09:43 PM
What Mr Mysterious said. I consider Rem-oil far superior to say, the stuff in the cheap clening kits, but not as good as CLP. Used it before the Army, Got my Arms Room, ditched the LSA for CLP, (you can order the gallon jugs in the Army:D ), used it exclusively in the Arms Room after that. It is my first choice, and I usually keep a couple of the 2/3 oz. bottles in my range bag to give away.

tc300mag1
March 30, 2004, 09:44 PM
I prefer fp-10 and lots of others over rem oil.

Preacherman
March 30, 2004, 09:54 PM
I've found Rem-Oil to be a good lubricant and protector in mild to cold climates. However, in hot, humid climates, I've found it's just too thin to stay put - it evaporates, or worse (if you've used too much) runs all over your holster and clothes. I have some still, and use it mainly in fall and winter for flooding hard-to-reach areas (e.g. inside trigger groups, etc.) after first flushing them out with cleaner. I then let the part drain overnight, wipe off any excess on the outside, and reinstall it. For this application, at this time of year, Rem-Oil works well for me.

Valkman
March 30, 2004, 10:05 PM
I prefer fp-10 and lots of others over rem oil.

Ditto that! I bought some Rem Oil thinking it'd be good to spray on gun parts if I cleaned them with brake cleaner, but so far I'm using FP-10 only and man it's good stuff! I use FP-10 on the Dillon also and get an extra 300 rounds per hour!*








*well not really but it works goood! :D

Hedger
March 30, 2004, 10:36 PM
For the last year or so I have been using spray on dry moly lube in my pistols slides and actions (and on the nipple on my BP rifles and pistols). Seems to work quite well, no problems at all and doesn't attract crud like RemOil. I use CLP on the barrels.

No thread highjack, but has anyone see any problems with dry moly lube?

Blueduck
March 30, 2004, 10:42 PM
Tool kit approach for me (right tool for right job).

I do like Rem Oil for light lubrication jobs and a bit on rag for protective duties, never had problem with either use. Of course I don't crawl around in salt marshes for months without cleaning my gun either ;)

I'd rather have a tube of Rem-Oil than a gallon of CLP. Breakfree just has a nasty smell to me and prefer dedicated lubricants and cleaners.

Selfdfenz
March 30, 2004, 10:44 PM
Exactly what Preacherman said.

I have gone to Tetra Gun grease on slides, op rod contact points, things that move etc. Seems to work aok so far. Still lube the bore with Rem Oil.

S-

Carbon_15
March 30, 2004, 11:06 PM
Gun oil test (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119812)

Don't be so quick to knock Rem-Oil based on conjecture. Come back with some data and we will talk.

Mr. Mysterious
March 30, 2004, 11:07 PM
I will admit the one thing that I realy like Rem-oil for is the outside finish of blued and polymer framed/stocks. It leaves them looking great...just spray a little bit on a rag and wipe it down...it makes them look as good as new. Just don't use too much, because it will 'sweat' off over time.

My old Remmington 522 Viper which I had not shot for ~5 years from the time when I was 17-22 was last cleaned and given a little coat of Remoil when I was 17. When I picked the rifle up at my parents a couple of years ago it had no rust or corrosion and was in really great shape. This was prior to me finding CLP in the Army...and still I use remoil on the outside surfaces because I like what it does and it does not leave an oily film.

So basically when I clean I use Remoil on the outside. CLP in the barrel. A very light coating of remoil in the trigger assembly. Remoil as a coating on the outside of the slide and the outside of the barrel. The rails will get a dab of CLP, and depending on any bad areas they'll get CLP.

In the military it it entirely different...we usually store the weapons dry or with an extremely light coat of CLP since the arm vaults are climate contolled. We don't leave a lot of CLP on the weapons since they don't appear as cleaned when they are inspected...and they will often be dirty from the C in CLP when they are removed from their racks.

We also do a lot of things that wouldn't normally be done to personally owned firearms. We bathe the 'guns' (M240, M249) with carb or brake cleaner and then use hot water on them. This is followed by WD40 to displace the water.

Many of us bring cordless dremels into the field and use that to clean bolts. It really makes quick work of the bolts on the M4/M16's.

Then wthen it comes time to actually throw lead downrange, we apply CLP pretty liberal on the bolts of the M4/M16s and coat the inside of the 'guns' pretty heavy. CLP does stay in place pretty good when burning through a couple thousand rounds at a time ;)

The one problem with CLP and the Army is that it is used as a catchall. I think the LP portions are GREAT, but the cleaning is extremely slow. Hoppes No9 works much better to remove carbon...but then again CLP from an infantry mans standpoint is pretty nice for the simple fact that there is only one little bottle for me to carry with me.

lycanthrope
March 30, 2004, 11:19 PM
Data (http://www.fp10.com/htmls/FRICTION%20%20WEAR%20%20&%20%20ABRASION%20%20TESTS-FP-10(TES73-76).htm)

Rust prevention and protection are not always inclusive.

kernal_panic
March 30, 2004, 11:44 PM
Nother FP-10 user chiming in. been using it to clean the bores on my revolvers and last time i fired the rossi i fired 400 rounds of lead reloads. all of the lead in the bore came out with 12-15 brush strokes and 1 patch. Amazing. it was definately the FP-10. the rossi is stainless and i hadn't coated the whole pistol before shooting just the bore. turned out the bore was the easist part to clean.

JohnKSa
March 31, 2004, 12:02 AM
Carbon 15,

I've seen another test virtually identical to yours where CLP was the winner.

However, its moot. I want my gun oil to do a lot more than protect against rust.

WonderNine
March 31, 2004, 12:13 AM
I use Breakfree CLP myself, but I really cannot tell the difference between it and Remoil other than the smell. Also heard Breakfree can cause cancer through extended exposure.

Steve in PA
March 31, 2004, 12:59 AM
I've been using Rem Oil (with teflon) for several years on all my guns, never a problem.

I do have a large bottle of FP-10 that I just cracked open.

Jadecristal
March 31, 2004, 03:07 AM
GigaBuist said: A guy that just bought his first pistol was sold Rem Oil as a cleaning and lubricating all-in-one solution. Pretty sure the guy that suggested that has some pretty abused firearms!

I hope that you weren't referring to me, but I'm betting you were. :)

My poor Glock hasn't actually SEEN any of said RemOil yet, and I'm more than happy to uhh... do nothing with it, or go smack the store that sold it to me.

Someone really should comment on using a gun snake (for 9mm, 357, etc) on my Glock 17 too, if anyone has/does/knows anything about it. I'd really like to know before something *bad* happens.

At the danger of mirroring my post in another section, I'm a newbie, and don't know what FP-10 and CLP are. Could someone enlighten me?

Jadecristal

WonderNine
March 31, 2004, 03:42 AM
DO NOT use teflon products on the exterior of your gun. It'll be like trying to shoot a 9mm out of the mouth of a rainbow trout for months.

Selfdfenz
March 31, 2004, 04:53 AM
"DO NOT use teflon products on the exterior of your gun. It'll be like trying to shoot a 9mm out of the mouth of a rainbow trout for months."

I was under the impression teflon in the bore could be a negative.

Can you explain how teflon on the outside of the firearm causes problems?

THX
S-

WhiteKnight
March 31, 2004, 07:17 AM
Can you explain how teflon on the outside of the firearm causes problems?
Would make it more slippery, methinks.

lycanthrope
March 31, 2004, 09:05 AM
At the danger of mirroring my post in another section, I'm a newbie, and don't know what FP-10 and CLP are. Could someone enlighten me?

"CLP" is Cleaner/Lubricant/Protectant all in one product. FP-10 is the brand name of a CLP.

Hook
March 31, 2004, 11:37 AM
H'lo,

Been usin' Butch's Bore Shine or Hoppes #9 to clean the bores then CLP in the bores and action.
When storing my guns I use a thin coat of RIG. Never had any rust or other problems.

(Just my .02 cents worth)

BTW, dosen't Hoppes#9 smell GREAT. They should make an aftershave with that smell. :D :D


Hook

clubsoda22
March 31, 2004, 12:19 PM
where the heck do you find Breakfree? It said walmart carried it on their websight....well, not my walmart.

MR.G
March 31, 2004, 01:35 PM
The Wal Mart near me carries Break Free and Rem Oil. Only the CLP though. Not the LP. I like the Break Free Greased Lightning for lubricating the rails of my autos, but have not seen any for a while. Maby they discontinued it. Most of the gun stores, at least around here, stock Break Free LP and CLP.

GigaBuist
March 31, 2004, 01:56 PM
JadeCrystal,

I hope that you weren't referring to me, but I'm betting you were.

Nope, this is a guy in Grand Rapids MI that I'm referring to. It seems there's more than one guy behind the counter in the midwest that thinks Rem Oil is a good cleaner. Must be related.

DDGator
March 31, 2004, 01:58 PM
The jargon gets confusing. People say CLP when they mean "Breakfree CLP" -- but, as pointed out, CLP is a generic term for "Clean, Lube & Protect."

RemOil is a CLP also.

Red_SC
March 31, 2004, 02:45 PM
I have several lubes I use, including Breakfree and RemOil. I use whatever is handy for lube and the outside. I never put RemOil in my barrels, though. I've read where several prominent gunsmiths said to never use a product with Teflon in the barrel. It will eventually build up deposits that are nearly impossible to remove. I don't have first hand experience with this one, but I've heard enough people say they've experienced it to make it not worth the risk.

patent
March 31, 2004, 03:39 PM
The jargon gets confusing. People say CLP when they mean "Breakfree CLP" -- but, as pointed out, CLP is a generic term for "Clean, Lube & Protect."

Breakfree also sells a lubricant/protectant version. If you are just looking for it to lub and protect (I use something else to clean) would the lubricant/protectant be better than the CLP? Work as well?

Thanks for anyone with any comments,

patent

Black Snowman
March 31, 2004, 04:00 PM
I recently started using FP-10 and love it. I use Rem Oil to hose things down for storage. The nasty smell reminds me to wipe them down and swab the bore before shooting them ;)

sm
March 31, 2004, 04:26 PM
Rem-oil
Yeah I've used it. Rem-oil and everything else under the sun have been in the shooter's kits over the years.

Off course shoot at a Remington range. in particular, not to mention others..must of had 100 of the little samples of Rem-oil around here at one time. Breafree must of had 50. Nobody remembers "Rusty Duck" line of products I bet. STOS is another

Get into competition, use samples from kits...won't have to buy a thing for a long time. :)

I don't use the FP-10, and other stuff mentioned. I have my druthers, but then again I have been known to grab what was handy.

Kinda nice to buy lube and stuff locally, though I needed a bunch of what I used to clean a collection and ordered a half gallon of what I use...I'm not a shopper, and with schedule I hated going out of my way.

Prefer NOT to use Teflon , especially in bores. I treat bores with RIG.

[that is - whenever I may actually clean a bore ( new gun) or eventually get one dirty enough to require cleaning. Usually means rain, mud, snow - not rd count. As long as chamber is clean and dry...and no obstructions in bore, I shoot it. I shoot Jacketed bullets...even after a year of not cleaning the pistol bbl ain't shrunk from .45 to .22...nor have the 9mm...not even the .22 bores shrunk.]

IMNSHO

Sean Smith
March 31, 2004, 04:43 PM
FP-10.

SLCDave
March 31, 2004, 06:05 PM
SM, they sell Rusty Duck at the Walmart near me, along with Breakfree CLP, the Birtchwood-Casey line (Gun Scrubber, Sheath, Etc) RemOil, Outers stuff and some Hoppes products, not all. Someone on another forum said their local Walmart sells Eezox (Another CLP "Wonderproduct) too, but mine doesn't.

I like Eezox myself, but for real cleaning, Hoppes #9 is my choice, with a little Militec-1 Grease on the higher friction moving parts.

SLCDave
March 31, 2004, 06:06 PM
SM, they sel Rusty Duck at the Walmart near me, along with Breakfree CLP, the Birtchwood-Casey line (Gun Scrubber, Sheath, Etc) RemOil, Outers stuff and some Hoppes products, not all. Someone on another forum said their local Walmart sells Eezox (Another CLP "Wonderproduct) too, but mine doesn't.

I like Eezox myself, but for real cleaning, Hoppes #9 is my choice, with a little Militec-1 Grease on the higher friction moving parts.

CZ-100
March 31, 2004, 06:53 PM
I also have been using RemOil for years with NO problems at all:neener:

Ryder
March 31, 2004, 08:34 PM
Rem oil is a great cleaner for my black powder guns. Soapy water is a pain in the butt. I'll use it on occasion to clean my modern guns also (if I run out of hoppes). Too thin for my liking to use as a lubricant.

ENC
March 31, 2004, 10:56 PM
I have an article from a Gun Tests Magazine June 1994

There were fifteen products tested for rust prevention.

There were two samples one for rain and one for salt water.

Some of these products are found at Marine supply stores for boats.

The second place winner was the first of the products designed for Guns it was Outers Metal Seal.

The dead last product Rem Oil. I would use WD-40 before I would use Rem Oil for a rust preventative.

Steve in PA
April 1, 2004, 02:12 AM
Rem Oil is meant to be a lubricant, not a rust preventative.

Dienekes
April 1, 2004, 02:48 AM
Bought a couple of tubes of the stuff a while back just in case but never really needed it. It looked so watery that it's hard to believe it will stay where you want it to.

Years ago I bought two gallons of navy surplus "light lubricating oil" for 50 cents a gallon and am still working off that. Also picked up a gallon of Break-Free but have barely tapped it as I think dedicated products do better than the miracle stuff.

Am playing with the sample Militec oil which may be ok, and have gone to the Militec grease for the M1 and M1A. In their case you can actually hear them work more smoothly as compared with the old Lubriplate 130-A issue grease.

As for solvent, have been using Ed's Red home brew for about four years now with excellent results.

Frankly I don 't think it makes a heck of a lot of difference most of the time. If the owner is fairly conscientious about maintenance he's at least use SOMETHING.

It's not so much what soap the guy uses as whether or not he takes baths at all.

sm
April 1, 2004, 03:03 AM
It's not so much what soap the guy uses as whether or not he takes baths at all.
Yep.

Got some folks saying you don't use their "soap" you still ain't bathing tho'. Got folks believing and worshipping such...well if some "soaps" ever stop being made, gonna be a lot of dirty, smelling, lost souls looking for a new "soap" to nip at the heels of.

Besides, some folks clean and lube "clean" guns...never give the stuff a chance to run a bazillon rds, to generate the heat of a spaceship on re-entry. [ whatever the marketing dealie of the month is] I don't think 20 rds, 100, 300 rds qualify. I last shot 400 rds through one of my CCW in one sitting

I last cleaned that one CCW in the fall of '03. I did take a look after a thunderstorm...can of Dust- Off blew out the nelphs, one drop of oil on finger rubbed lightly on rails, racked, wiped off that residue so none seen or felt...about a month ago. Maybe summer I'll check again...whether I shoot it or not. It gets RIG every month or so on externals...that tub of RIG is probably 15 - 20 yrs old.

The last guns I've cleaned were not mine...a collection of 30 that needed going through for an insurance/estate dealie.

If folks shot as much as they worry about gun lubes...

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