.45 High Capacity recomendations????


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Jedi_7.62
March 30, 2004, 07:02 PM
I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a .45 in high capacity?

By the way I don't personally care for Glocks. Yes , yes, I know blah blah. I've used one I liked it but it just isn't what I want. Also I don't like Beretta I have never found one I liked tried their high capacity 9mm and hated it.

Really I'm looking seriously at Kimbers but I wanted to see what options there may be for high capacity.

Price - under $1,000

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tc300mag1
March 30, 2004, 07:09 PM
Kimber or a Hk i went with HK

George Hill
March 30, 2004, 07:14 PM
CZ-97

Ala Dan
March 30, 2004, 07:21 PM
Another vote for the H&K! :uhoh: :cool: :D

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

dairycreek
March 30, 2004, 07:28 PM
I have a Kimber Polymer, Glock 21, Glock 30, and a CZ 97B. CZ all the way for reliability and accuracy. Good shooting;)

Zundfolge
March 30, 2004, 07:36 PM
I gotta go with the CZ97 ... although a nice Para Ordnance LDA would be worth looking at too (although I've heard rumors that Para Ord's stuff is iffy on the QC ... most are fine but they have more then their share of lemons ... however I have no personal experience with them).

sharpie613
March 30, 2004, 07:44 PM
I have a Para P13-45 and I'm really happy with it. In non fascist states, you can get 13 round mags for it, though we are limited to 10 rounders. I have small hands and have little problems getting a good grip on the Commmander-size frame, and mine was 600 bucks. After about 2500 rounds through it, no pistol problems. Make sure if you go that route that you get mags that have good strong springs as all the problems I've had have been feeding problems that a good mag will fix.

jrpeterman
March 30, 2004, 10:04 PM
Take a serious look at a CZ97b. If it feels comfortable in your hand, it might be the ticket.

rbernie
March 30, 2004, 10:14 PM
The CZ97B is my current favorite 45ACP doublestack. I've also got a Kimber PCII-10 doublestack, and despite the fact that it's a Series II - I like it. It feels like it has a much smaller grip circumference than the CZ, and thru ~3000 rounds has been accurate and trouble-free.

Heraclitus
March 30, 2004, 10:20 PM
Chalk up another vote for Kimber. Gold Match Ten and Ultra Ten come to mind.

The CZ-97 is a fabulous gun. It's big, solid, accurate, and sharp-looking. But beware the thumb safety: not everyone can reach it easily while keeping the target in the sights. Check before you buy.

Grayrider
March 30, 2004, 11:14 PM
Good question, and I have had Paras, Kimbers, Buls (essentially Kimber), CZs, Witnesses, and Glocks. Let me see what I can tell you.

I like 1911s, so let me save that for last. The Witness and CZ aren't really hi-cap, but then what exactly does that mean? Over 10 rounds, then no they are not. Of course you could add some extended base pads, but until September that isn't legal and the mags would hang out a bit. The Witness .45 I had ran fine, fed well, handled well, but wasn't particularly accurate. The CZ-97 was all that AND accurate, but a bit big. If I did not love the 1911 so, I suppose I would own a 97. I would have to say the 97 was my second favorite model of pistol I ever owned in 45.

I had a Glock 21. I don't like Glocks, so it was doomed. It was a Glock, it was 45, it held 12 rounds. If you like Glocks and 45, you would like that. I never fired a Glock that was as accurate as the 97 I had, or any good 1911 I have owned, or my long gone 4506 for that matter.

I have owned a couple Para Ordnance 1911s. The first was pretty unimpressive, but it was a first-generation conversion. That was definately not the high point of Para's efforts. My Para LTD 16/40 is very, very nice. Not a 45, but I would assume that the 14/45 would be the same. It is accurate, reliable, and has a nice set of features. I would own another if I were so inclined. As a 1911 fan, I don't feel the need for hi-cap but now and then I get the urge to send mrore than 8 rounds down range without reloading. Generally it goes away after I take my medications.

I had a Bul M-5. I wanted a Kimber Polymer, and knew the Bul was the same gun at the time but was much cheaper. It ran great, had a hell of a trigger, fit my hand better than the Para (read thinner), and was well put together. Bul says they hand assemble them, and I believe it based on that gun. I sold it when I got a Polymer Pro Carry cheaper, and with CCW on the way in Missouri that was more useful. I have neglected the Pro Carry, so I cannot comment on its performance yet.

Recently I took in a Kimber BP10 full size. It was cheap and came with a hi-cap, so my intent was to strip the mag off for my Pro Carry and resell it. Then I shot it. It is not for sale. Damn accurate, reliable, and feels great. They slimmed the frame more on the BP series. It needs a trigger job, but is so accurate I think I will hang onto it. I replaced the front sight with a fiber blade. I am not sure what role it fits in my collection, but for $500 it was well worth it. I am thinking it may be a carry gun now and then, when my obsession with 10mm isn't in total control.

My suggestion after all this is that you look at hi-cap 1911s. If you like that platform at all, to me it gives you some neat options. The mags are pricey but come September that may change. 10 rounders are cheap, and with the 97 you won't have any more rounds. The hi-cap 1911s are a bit handier in dimensions than the 97. Glocks....well I won't go there. My friends that have them and I just agree to disagree.

:D

GR

PS: H&K....well I need to try one. They sure fit my hand well. Come September and cheaper mags, I may just have to pick one up...

Grunt
March 30, 2004, 11:22 PM
HK USP-45. Mine is 100% reliable, accurate in the extreme, rugged as a tank and the modular construction can let you change it to whatever configureation suits you best. Another advantage is being able to carry cocked and locked with it's enormous trigger guard makes it the best winter carry gun out there. Just try to get your finger into a Glock or 1911 trigger guard while wearing a ski glove and you wil see what I mean. With the HK it's no problem at all.

Jeff
March 30, 2004, 11:32 PM
H&K USP

It's the only one I shot but it is-- as stated above-- 100% reliable and pretty accurate right out of the box. I love mine.

I'm beginning to shoot it so much it's going to force me to start reloading.

Plus, you can pretty much feed them anything-- even .45 Super loads without changing any springs.

Skunkabilly
March 31, 2004, 02:31 AM
If you can score a pre-owned Wilson KZ45, check them out. If not, try the HK USP.

pauli
March 31, 2004, 02:38 AM
tommygun!

wait, wrong forum.

WonderNine
March 31, 2004, 03:46 AM
CZ97B is what I'm looking at in that category right now.

Save yourself the pain and avoid buying a Kimber or Para Ord.

H&K USP? Your results may vary.....

Lobotomy Boy
March 31, 2004, 09:41 AM
Yesterday I bought a used G21 that came with three 10-round magazines. I wouldn't mind getting a normal capacity mag (is it 12 or 13 rounds?) but I have decided to wait until September before buying any more mags. Any chance that the manufacturers will start selling normal capacity mags as soon as the AWB sunsets?

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