LEO only 380 Glock, won't last long


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gym
January 20, 2014, 05:34 PM
http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/law_enforcement_agreement.cfm?CFID=16971867&CFTOKEN=98b7895e6e92a51c-F1D2220B-5056-A43A-3F3BCCAE3A75B461&qty=1&id=133187&siz=NULL&attr1=NULL&attr2=NULL

Up again for everyone else who is non LEO-http://www.slickguns.com/product/glock-ui4250201-g42-380acp-325-61-fs-modular-poly-grip-black-59900

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jimbo555
January 21, 2014, 08:14 AM
I haven't seen a 30s yet and I'm 2 hours from Smyrna! I would like to see the g42 in person before buying.

Quiet
January 21, 2014, 10:30 AM
http://www.gtdist.com/images/ad-rot-glock4142.jpg

Vodoun da Vinci
January 21, 2014, 12:14 PM
My LGS says they won't have a G42 for almost a year - I assume they are dealing with a low end distributor. I'll wait but not a year. :neener:

If I find one on the 'Net available at the end of January I'll pay the shipping and the $20 transfer fee on top of the $399. My Wife is hounding me to death to shoot one of these and, having shot virtually everything else last Summer, I'm inclined to buy it to shoot it/test it.

If it doesn't work out and I lose $100 or so it'll be worth that. I doubt it will ever leave once it gets to my house and goes to the range and has 200 rounds put thru it. It'll look great on my Wife...

VooDoo

C0untZer0
January 21, 2014, 12:30 PM
I wonder why they made the 25 and 28 direct blowback, couldn't they have lightened the slide and used a weaker spring and gotten the locked-breach setup to work?

gym
January 21, 2014, 12:34 PM
If you keep that slick guns app open on your cell, "android and Iphone", you will get a notification when someone sees it up for sale, "it's a user run site".

gym
January 22, 2014, 10:12 AM
http://www.slickguns.com/product/glock-g42-380-acp-326-barrel-6-rnds-479-free-shipping
it's up 22 minutes ago

okc-zee
January 22, 2014, 10:33 AM
the prices are already getting ridiculous...Buds is up to $500 !!! for a plastic 380 ??...you can buy a full size real caliber glock or almost anything else for that money.. they can keep it..I don't care who makes it...

gym
January 22, 2014, 11:07 AM
That last one was the cheapest I have seen for non leo. I saw one idiot trying to get 875 for one on fl gun trader. I would think if you want one right now, you are going to pay in the mid to high 4's unless you are LEO. If you wait 6-12 months they will be down "like the shield" to the 3's.

Vodoun da Vinci
January 22, 2014, 11:28 AM
I'm not paying $100+ extra plus 4% credit card, shipping, and transfer fees...I'll wait. The first few weeks it's gonna be crazy 'cause "nobody wants one of the G42's!!" :cool:

Even at $600 they fly out of stock as fast as they can list them.

I'll wait a few weeks. I'm not surprised...these things will be like hotcakes for a few weeks and folks who must have one will pay anything to get the first ones. I just hope Glock is cranking them out as I suspect even they underestimated how briskly these will sell in 2014.

Just spotted on at "GrabaGun" for $479 - one left in stock. Exit the website to "think about it"....free shipping/no credit card fee? Yeah, jump on it! Go back 8 minutes later - out of stock. Still looking. I have a suspicion it'll be weeks/months before I can get one.

VooDoo

gym
January 22, 2014, 01:18 PM
Just keep that slickguns app open on one of your internet devices, it will alert you ,"if you set alerts for certain guns". I have watched this, sell out in 15 minutes a half dozen times,
http://www.slickguns.com/product/diamondback-db15-semi-automatic-223-rem-556nato-75-aluminum-flat-dark-earth-30rd-1-mag-db1-0?subscription=1. it's really tempting me. I would convert it to a suppressed SBR or pistol.
A M85 PV just came up for 399

Hometeached1
January 22, 2014, 01:19 PM
Granted, I'm not dying to have one, but I tend to wait on buying stuff as soon as it comes out, tends to be over priced and don't know how well it works. Hope you can get one for your Wife soon Vondoun, ya'll have been looking for a long time.

SG1
January 22, 2014, 01:33 PM
A LGS near me had them listed for $429 but the waiting list had already claimed all the ones he received this week.

I'm not in the market for one since I just invested in a pocket .380. I know a lot of the LGS in my area are advertising them, but the one mentioned above always has some of the best prices in town. And it's a small husband and wife owned shop.

Quiet
January 22, 2014, 03:15 PM
SoCal gun store (ProForce in Brea) has them in stock at $319.99 (LEO only).

gym
January 22, 2014, 06:20 PM
http://www.slickguns.com/product/glock-g42-380-acp-326-barrel-6-rnds-479-free-shipping. $449, free shipping Kentucky gun

Vodoun da Vinci
January 22, 2014, 07:32 PM
Just returned from my local indoor range and gun store where I was informed that they have 40 G42's coming over the next 3 weeks. The first ten which arrive yet this week are sold and paid for...my name is number 11 for the next batch that show up. :what: :D

$479 and I put half up front. I also got to handle the pistol the owner just bought and have to say that in hand it exceeds all my expectations. It's a Glock...no doubts and well executed. It's fantastic in the hand. The prefect combination of size to conceal and not feel that you are handling a teeny, tiny, toy pistol. Talked to the guy who owned it and shot it today....200 rounds. I trust his judgement and experience and he says it is the nicest .380 he has shot hands down. Reliable (never missed a lick in 200 rounds) accurate and the recoil is light and easy to control.

I'm stoked. Hopefully the next shipment with my pistol will be here next week late or the following early. My Wife is gonna love this gun i have no doubt.

VooDoo

Speedo66
January 22, 2014, 08:19 PM
As much as I like Glocks, and this may be "the smallest Glock ever", it's still an inch longer and 1/2" taller than a Ruger LCP.

To me, the idea of a .380 pocket gun is to be as small as possible. Until Glock makes one smaller than the Ruger, the Ruger is still the preferred one as far as I'm concerned.

I don't wish to carry a larger gun that costs 50% more just so I can say it's a Glock.

gym
January 22, 2014, 08:57 PM
This is just a thread to help the folks who were looking for the gun to purchase for themselves. I am not in the market personally. But many are, so I figured I would help being that I am looking for a few other guns, and have that app open all day anyway.
Personally I don't think its all about size, when looking at any gun. I found the LCP to be too small for my hands. I could not own anything smaller, as it would be useless to me unless I wore it in a OWB holster, which defeats the purpose in my opinion.
What you really need to look at more is the ease of use and accuracy of the guns, again IMO.

Hokkmike
January 22, 2014, 11:03 PM
I think the IOP program stinks. Why should some people, who admittedly do admirable work, be favored over individuals who are orderlies at hospitals, teach juvenile delinquents, help older folk, etc., etc. etc., and etc.???

Fremmer
January 22, 2014, 11:17 PM
Because military and police are a marketable audiance. They buy guns. Social workers and orderlies don't, or at least not as many as the M&P folks. That's my guess, anyway.

PapaGrune
January 22, 2014, 11:40 PM
This is a single stack mag. Gives you 6 + 1. Is this the same gun that Glock has had as a LEO gun only? They did not import if I remember right. If it is a new design they could have made it a double stack mag.

Eb1
January 22, 2014, 11:44 PM
My Besrsa has the same specs and holds 8+1.

Quiet
January 23, 2014, 10:30 AM
This is a single stack mag. Gives you 6 + 1. Is this the same gun that Glock has had as a LEO gun only? They did not import if I remember right. If it is a new design they could have made it a double stack mag.

Different pistols.

The Glock 25 and Glock 28 are currently Gov/Mil/LE only due to importation restrictions.
The Glock 25 (same size as the Glock 19/23/32/38) and Glock 28 (same size as the Glock 26/27/33/39) uses double-stack magazines.

The new Glock 42 is made in the USA and not subject to the importation restrictions, which is why it is being sold on the civilian (non-LE/Gov/Mil) market.
The Glock 42 uses a single-stack magazine. They went with a single-stack magazine to make it slimmer and more comfortable/easier to carry concealed.

Arizona_Mike
January 23, 2014, 11:57 AM
I wonder why they made the 25 and 28 direct blowback, couldn't they have lightened the slide and used a weaker spring and gotten the locked-breach setup to work?
I'm not sure it would be enough. You loose 7 import points (http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-5330-5.pdf) going from 9mm down to .380 and only gain 5 points from a locked breech.

Mike

PS. Correct me if I am wrong but once imported resale is not restricted.

snooperman
January 23, 2014, 12:28 PM
I ordered one yesterday and the LGS said it should be a week or two as Distributors are now shipping.

Weevil
January 23, 2014, 01:22 PM
Different pistols.

The Glock 25 and Glock 28 are currently Gov/Mil/LE only due to importation restrictions.
The Glock 25 (same size as the Glock 19/23/32/38) and Glock 28 (same size as the Glock 26/27/33/39) uses double-stack magazines.

The new Glock 42 is made in the USA and not subject to the importation restrictions, which is why it is being sold on the civilian (non-LE/Gov/Mil) market.
The Glock 42 uses a single-stack magazine. They went with a single-stack magazine to make it slimmer and more comfortable/easier to carry concealed.



^^^^
This!

I've noticed a lot of folks think this is just a single-stack G28, but it's a whole 'nother animal.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/x20140114-094713.jpg.pagespeed.ic.c0UgVvzbN6.jpg

Still not sure why they went with .380 instead of 9mm, although I suspect a 9mm version is somewhere in the future.

Sam Cade
January 23, 2014, 01:25 PM
Because military and police are a marketable audience.

It isn't just military and police who qualify.

Sworn Law Enforcement Officers or Federal Agents, Retired Law Enforcement Officers or Retired Federal Agents with "retired" credentials,
Corrections Officers, including Parole & Probation Officers, State licensed Security Companies, State licensed Security Officers, Active Military,
National Guard, or Military Reserve personnel - all branches, Legitimately retired military veterans, with “retired” military I.D. Licensed Para-
Medics or EMTs, Fire Fighters (including volunteers) with appropriate I.D. All TSA employees, Commercial Pilot License holders, regardless of
class & Federal Flight Deck Officers, Court Judges, District Attorneys and Deputy District Attorneys, LE Academy or College students with proof
of enrollment in a Criminal Justice Program.

Quiet
January 23, 2014, 03:58 PM
It may take awhile for a 9x19mm version.

9x19mm cartridge + Glock 42 magazine
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg481/chargerarms/Glock%2042/42with9round.jpg

C0untZer0
January 23, 2014, 04:15 PM
IGB sells 9mm conversion barrels for the G25 and G28. I think this basically turns them into a G19 and G26.

Byron
January 24, 2014, 09:27 PM
Bought a G42 at my gun store today for $399. It is very accurate at 7 yards.Ball and Hornady Critical Defense fed well.

M2 Carbine
January 24, 2014, 11:35 PM
As much as I like Glocks, and this may be "the smallest Glock ever", it's still an inch longer and 1/2" taller than a Ruger LCP.

To me, the idea of a .380 pocket gun is to be as small as possible. Until Glock makes one smaller than the Ruger, the Ruger is still the preferred one as far as I'm concerned.

I don't wish to carry a larger gun that costs 50% more just so I can say it's a Glock.
I shot a G42 yesterday.

I am not especially a Glock fan even though I have a G19, G26 and G33.
I was prepared to not like the G42 but I have to admit I like it so well my first G42 will be here next Tuesday. I don't know when the 2nd G42 I ordered will be in.

I have two LCP Rugers. Pocket carry one much of the time. I like them but this G42 is way ahead of the LCP in every way.
Very accurate. I can't wait to try it at 50 yards.
Small and thin. Although a little larger than the LCP, it will pocket carry easy.
Good trigger (and I normally hate Glock triggers).
Comfortable to shoot. A recoil sensitive person could shoot the G42 all day. Most people don't want to shoot the LCP more than a couple magazines.
Very good sights.

Before yesterday I would have bet there would never be a Glock that I'd actually like.

beatledog7
January 25, 2014, 08:22 AM
Wait for used ones to hit the market. Early adopters will snap them all up then decide they don't like them, and by summer the market will open up.

Vodoun da Vinci
January 25, 2014, 09:18 AM
Good plan....

VooDoo

Elkins45
January 25, 2014, 01:34 PM
I'm not a Glock hater, but I'm having a hard time coming to the conclusion that it is worth $200 more than a Kahr or Ruger.

Quiet
January 25, 2014, 03:06 PM
I'm not a Glock hater, but I'm having a hard time coming to the conclusion that it is worth $200 more than a Kahr or Ruger.

How is it costing $200 more than a Kahr or Ruger?

MSRP
Glock 42 = $475 ($319 blue label)
Kahr Arms P-380 = $649
Kahr Arms PM-9 = $786
Kahr Arms MK-9 = $855
Ruger LCP = $429
Ruger LC-380 = $449
Ruger LC-9 = $449

HKGuns
January 25, 2014, 04:19 PM
Funny how the koolaid drinkers suddenly think .380 is the bomb.

Elkins45
January 25, 2014, 04:32 PM
How is it costing $200 more than a Kahr or Ruger?

I was basing that figure on post #10, plus what I've seen on Armslist this week.

Like I said, I'm not a Glock hater...I own a half-dozen of them. Maybe I'm a 380 hater because I don't own any of those regardless of maker.

Vodoun da Vinci
January 25, 2014, 04:35 PM
I'm a Koolaid drinker I guess...you mean Glock lover?

Didn't buy it because it's a .380 - I bought it because it's a Glock and my Wife and I really like them. The fact that it is single stack and .380 means that she can carry it and get fast accurate follow ups with it where she cannot with a larger caliber.

We shot everything available. This is hot because it fills the bill for tens of thousands of us - not because it is a Glock or because it is a .380. Hot 'cause it works for us! :)

VooDoo

M2 Carbine
January 25, 2014, 04:59 PM
I was looking at the G42 again this morning.

We compared it in size to my LC9. Almost the same size.
To me the gun "felt smaller" than my LC9, maybe because of the weight difference.

The G42 is lighter weight than the LC9.

I dry fired about six times. The trigger is definitely better than my three Glocks.

As somewhat of a comparison, a few minutes ago I shot my LCP.
From shooting the G42 I think a (new) shooter would be comfortable with it.
Where as I quit shooting the LCP after two magazines. It's just not a fun gun to shoot.

OARNGESI
January 27, 2014, 06:01 AM
anyone work at a gunshop that could do a couple comparison photos between a lcp 1c9 and g42?

HexHead
January 27, 2014, 07:25 AM
As much as I like Glocks, and this may be "the smallest Glock ever", it's still an inch longer and 1/2" taller than a Ruger LCP.

To me, the idea of a .380 pocket gun is to be as small as possible. Until Glock makes one smaller than the Ruger, the Ruger is still the preferred one as far as I'm concerned.

I don't wish to carry a larger gun that costs 50% more just so I can say it's a Glock.
Hmmm....here's a pic I took the other day of an LCP on top of a Glock 42.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/scat999999/a3e3850d2b9b029d099bba8da4d4ce6b_zps59917c9b.jpg

Vodoun da Vinci
January 27, 2014, 07:31 AM
Super thanks for the pix....so much for the rumor that it is so much bigger than competing pistols that it can't be carried in a pocket. The G42 I shot would definitely fit in a larger pocket but might be tough for smaller folks.

Excellent picture for comparison. :) Hopefully I'll get mine late this week and I'll be shooting pix of it compared to my G26 and Beretta Px4 SC and Ruger LCR.

VooDoo

bikerdoc
January 27, 2014, 07:37 AM
I agree with post 22.

hentown
January 27, 2014, 08:44 AM
Never thought I'd want a .380, and I still don't for myself; however, might be just the ticket for my daughter. She could/would carry the 42 when she wouldn't/couldn't carry her G26.

I'll get her a long tube sock for carrying the .380. That way, if she's attacked, she can swing the 42 around in the toe of that sock and use it for a club. ;)

gym
January 28, 2014, 12:04 AM
Glock 41 is on my list, if I was looking for a 380, the Pico, would be on my list before the Glock. Mainly because of the built in laser and light options, and the new technology. It's a nice gun for less money and more available options. After Mass sent that last email blast on 380's, it substantiated my view on them in general, and I really can't justify that much loss in effective power for the minimal increase in weapon size.

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