Alpha Project 9mm revolver


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BCRider
January 24, 2014, 06:53 PM
Looks like my moaning and crying for a moonclip 9mm revolver finally paid off. I just got off the phone with a local dealer and I'm getting one of the newly imported Alpha Project 9mm revolvers.

I did a search here on THR and only found one thread from 2011 about the AP guns. It said that they were coming but that was the end of it. I'm guessing that something fell through and it never worked out?

So once again it looks like poor lil' Canada trumps the US.... :D

The one I'm getting is a 4.5" barrel with a short unfluted cylinder. The slick thing is that because of the cylinder being short and set back the barrel extends back to the face of the cylinder and the amount of the barrel sticking out is more like what you'd expect from a 4" with a regular cylinder.

Fit and finish is reported to be on par with Ruger with a few nods to S&W. I shoot with this guy regularly and know him well enough that when he says something is pretty nice that he's going to underestimate it if anything. And if something is not up to snuff he doesn't pull any punches either. So when he tells me that he is quite impressed then I'm quite impressed.

The other nice thing is that it fires with our without moonclips. The video I've seen from AP doesn't show any whiskers or other tricks for grabbing the rimless grooves so I'm guessing that while it headspaces and fires without the moon clip that it may need a chop stick for extracting unless they are smooth enough to just fall out. Either way it's nice that it's an option.

More details when the transfer is finished and I pick it up sometime in the middle of this coming week. In the meantime here's a picture from the dealer's web site.

http://www.rustywood.ca/forsalepics/AlfaProj/9251CAshortcyl.jpg

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Hometeached1
January 24, 2014, 07:39 PM
Looks nice! Been looking at 9mm j-frames, or how to convert one to 9mm. Hope you enjoy it.

Clippers
January 24, 2014, 09:10 PM
Don't forget to give us a range report.

rcmodel
January 24, 2014, 09:13 PM
Quite frankly, I had never heard of them before.

How much, if you don't mind me asking?

rc

BCRider
January 24, 2014, 09:26 PM
Up this way it's going to run me $560 before our taxes. It'll be spitting distance over $600 once the dust settles. No FFL or other nonsense, just provincial and federal sales taxes. About half the price we pay for a S&W and about 2/3's the prices for a Ruger GP100.

And yes, I'll keep this updated with range reports for all the various styles of shooting from fast action delivery to slow bullseye and rested bullseye.

And being the uncontrollable tinkerer that I am it'll be shortly after the first shooting reports that you'll be seeing pictures of the insides and some basic smoothening up work.... :D

I've got a bucket load of K frame S&W's so I'll post pics of the new AP with them as a size comparison.

Kernel
January 24, 2014, 11:38 PM
Not the ugliest revolver I've ever seen. Parts of it I even like. Made in it the Czech Republic by CZ-Brno? They've cranked out a few guns over the years. Should be interesting.

TennJed
January 25, 2014, 02:10 AM
If I am not mistaken this is the CzechPoint revolvers. There has been a few threads about them under that name on the various boards. The Alpha Project is the model name. Company is CzechPoint.

http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/alfa-proj-revolvers

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=656034&highlight=czechpoint

BCRider
January 25, 2014, 03:24 AM
Yep, that's them.

Armed with this new name I'm STILL coming up empty for any sort of review. I see references to them being pretty good but nothing by anyone that's held one or shot one or the results.

.... I feel like I'm in Vegas right now and I've pulled the arm and watching the dials go round and round and round an............... :D

This thread may well end up being an interwebz first. An actual hands on review posted by an actual live, rumour has it, owner! ! ! !

Kernel
January 25, 2014, 02:25 PM
Found this tiny pic of the lock-work. Looks vaguely J-frameish.
http://www.targetsportsmagazine.com/js/tiny_mce/plugins/imagemanager/files/2008/March_08/LBR_REVIEW/IMG_0004.jpg

tekarra
January 25, 2014, 05:56 PM
Looking forward to your range report.

BCRider
January 25, 2014, 06:14 PM
So am I... :D

Thanks for that picture Kernel. It's more than I was able to find.

Janos Dracwlya
January 25, 2014, 10:25 PM
Hmmm. I'm interested.

C0untZer0
January 29, 2014, 06:25 PM
No, CzechP0int USA is the importer, AlfaProj is the manufacturer:

http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/9-mm-luger

http://www.strelivo-zbrane.cz/zbrane-na-zbrojni-prukaz/revolvery/revolvery-alfa-para-9mm-luger/

Also S&W just released 2 9mm Performance Center revolvers, the 986 and the 929:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_827555_-1_757767_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_827553_-1_757677_757677_757677_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

C0untZer0
January 29, 2014, 06:28 PM
Except you didn't get this through CzechPoint USA did you?

Because for one thing, they are completely out, and for another, they only import the 9231 - the 3" barrel version of the gun, and I asked Dan Brown 6 months ago if he would be importing other models like the 5" or 6" and he said "No"

Who imported this for you?

C0untZer0
January 29, 2014, 06:34 PM
The Alfa Proj revolvers ship with a tool, they call it a loading tube:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=190613&stc=1&d=1383172135

BCRider
January 29, 2014, 08:47 PM
Who imported this for you?

Check my location. Someone here in Canada has worked out a deal with AP to put barrels on the guns that suit our laws. The 4 inch models became 4.5's to allow them to be imported as restricted guns. Otherwise we would not see them here. No short barrel baby killers allowed for us.

C0untZer0
January 29, 2014, 10:23 PM
Oh OK - didn't see that you were in Canada. CzechPoint USA is supposed to be the exclusive importers for Alfa Proj in the U.S. so I was wondering how you got the 5" when Dan Brown said he wasn't going to import them.

I hope to hear a range report on it...

I don't know what the SA trigger is like on it, can't wait for your report.

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