What did you guys pay for your Lasix, and was it worth the money


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gym
January 26, 2014, 12:03 PM
If you don't want to say what you paid, I understand. We have 2 eye clinics where I live ,"entire facility's, hospitals," that just do eyes. I have been debating getting it done for some time now, being in my 60's. although I easily pass a drivers eye test, I can't shoot like I used to, "at a high level".
It's not so much the money, as concern about the procedure, and weather I would have to go back for a tune up as I age?
I have a lady friend who gave me the name of a top doctor, "who I met with when my left eye was bothering me with a floater". Turned out he comes from 3 generations of top surgeons, "his dad operated on my step daughter in NY hospital. What procedure did you have and how would you rate it.

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Mooseman
January 26, 2014, 12:13 PM
I had mine done when I was around 30 and it cost me $3600 IIRC. I was on the high end of procedure cost because they had just started tackling folks with high astigmatism. Before I had it done my vision was pretty poor, I could have 20/20 with glasses but I was too far out of spec for contacts. After the procedure I had 20/15 vision which gradually degraded and stabilized at 20/25. I'm 42 now and my vision is good. Getting Lasik was one of the best decisions I've ever made.

Mooseman
January 26, 2014, 12:22 PM
Some info on the procedure. This all happened a decade ago so some things may have changed and I make no claims on perfect memory. When I had mine done they measured my eyes over a couple of visits. The actual procedure took about 30 minutes for both eyes. It was painless but since you are awake and have your eyes open it was a little scary. If I had to do it over again I would want to take a Valium or something similar to quiet my anxiety. For the next month I took multiple sets of eye drops. An antibiotic, anti-inflammatory, and a lubricant. I wasn't supposed to open my eyes in the shower for a month. I was cleared to go to work the next day but I wore sunglasses inside for the next couple of days due to light sensitivity. I went back to them periodically for rechecks but my vision never degraded enough to bother with further work.

scramasax
January 26, 2014, 02:17 PM
For most of my life I would read a book by running my nose across the page to see the print. My vision was corrected with the classical coke bottle thick lenses. I could not function without them. I got good at working in the dark. Been a long time since I had my surgery. The Dr. was the daughter of my retired original DR. Don't remember the cost
But I remember coming out of the office and for the first time being able to see (literally past my nose) without help. I don't know how bad your eyes are but for me it was worth it.

Manny
January 26, 2014, 02:29 PM
In this instance, from my understanding, technology makes a difference. The newer machines keep getting better, though obviously having a great Dr performing the proceedure is key. I've not had it done, though my eyes are so bad I could benefit significantly. More a question of funds and a nervousness about it. Though bad outcomes are rare, they do happen.

jdgreen
January 26, 2014, 03:20 PM
Did mine about 18 years ago. Paid $4000. I went with the doctor that had done more procedures than anyone else at the time. Was still a fairly new procedure back then. I was coke-bottle nearsighted. I remember the doctor saying that I was beyond 20/400, which was considered legally blind. I came out of there with perfect vision for the first time in my life. Never knew you could see individual leaves on trees. I woke up startled for the first couple months because I could see when I first opened my eyes in the morning. My vision has degraded slightly the last couple years (I'll be 50 next summer), but not to the point of requiring glasses for driving. For me, it was worth every penny.

The procedure I had was they used a fixture that suction-clamped to the eye. It allowed a motorized blade to slice across the cornea (almost all the way through). The little bit left over was used as a hinge. They peeled back the cornea flap and then had me stare at a little red light while the laser did its thing - about a minute per eye. They folded the flap back over and taped little plastic bug-eye shields over my eyes so I wouldn't touch or rub my eyes. I wore those at night for two weeks or so, and wore safety glasses during the day. I didn't realize how many times a person touches their eyes in a day. They said I may have to go back for a "touch-up" within the first year, but I didn't need it. I'm sure today's procedure makes mine seem primitive.

abijohn
January 26, 2014, 04:04 PM
Had mine done 11 years ago. Was "blind" w/out my glasses. Still 20/20, although I need readers now at age 56. I think they can fix that too if I go back. Go to the best Dr you can find, I did, paid $3,500 when I had it done back 11 years ago.
MOST IMPORTANT- do exactly as he says, eye drops, bug eye glasses, dont get your eyes wet, ect. I never had any problems, know a gent that didn't follow orders and had to have it redone. As said above, take a relaxer right before you have it done, the surgery kind of freaked me out a little.

greyling22
January 26, 2014, 10:50 PM
I paid about 3500 a decade ago. Moved me from about 20/600 to 20/25. It has faded to about 20/30 or 35 I bet. Worse at night than in the day. Process didn't hurt, but was very very unpleasant. It was worth every penny to me when I was 25.

Archaic
January 26, 2014, 11:48 PM
About 3500 for both eyes, 4 years ago. I had very bad vision and astygmatism, didn't matter - she fixed it all. Had I known going in how much better I would see, I'd have gladly paid $10k for it. Best investment I ever made.

hq
January 27, 2014, 09:16 AM
I've always had extremely good eyesight but during last few years age-related hyperopia has started settling in. Some dietary changes like a steady diet of bilberries have slowed it down noticeably but the fact is that sooner or later I'll need reading glasses.

Or Lasik. Does anyone have a ballpark estimate how soon one should have the surgery, once eyesight has started deteriorating with age? I mean, I'm only 43, and at this point farsightedness is nothing more than a relatively minor annoyance. But an annoyance nevertheless. My mother had the surgery at age 81 and she'll most likely do fine without glasses for the rest of her life. I don't want to be in a situation where I've had one, need another later, and the first one has made further operations difficult or even impossible.

jmr40
January 27, 2014, 09:59 AM
My wife had it done 5-6 years ago. Don't remember the cost, but it was worth the expense to us. No longer buying contacts, glasses or other eye care products helps offset the cost some in the long run.

My wife had one eye done for reading, the other for distance vision. It took a little longer for her to adjust than expected after the surgery, but once she did the difference was dramatic.

Jimfern
January 27, 2014, 10:33 AM
My wife also had it done about 5 years ago and thinks it was money well spent too. I don't recall how much it was but $4-5,000 seems right. I think it's a big quality of life improvement for her.

I strongly encourage you to get a second opinion. My wife ended up with a radial keratotomy because that was the best procedure to solve her eye problems.

jrdolall
January 27, 2014, 11:45 AM
They will also do a total lens replacement now. It cost more than Lazik but is supposedly permanent whereas the Lazik will need some corrections as your eyes naturally degrade with age. Lens replacement, IOL, is basically cataract surgery without the cataracts. My brother and my father both had it done and can see perfectly now.

EDIT: My wife had Lazik done back in about 96 or 97 when it was not an FDA approved surgery by Hollis in Columbus GA. She had very thick glasses and was one of those that couldn't get out of bed without putting them on in the morning. The surgery worked flawlessly for about 14-15 years when her eyesight, especially her night vision, began to degrade.

SilentStalker
January 27, 2014, 01:55 PM
Ok, I have to ask, "How in the world do they keep you from blinking in this procedure?" And, wow, having to watch that in real time. I am not sure I could do it. I need to because I would love to be able to see without my glasses but I am just not sure.

jrdolall
January 27, 2014, 02:04 PM
The entire area is completely numb and they shine an incredibly bright light so all you can see is the light. They tape your eye open so you don't blink. Actually it is not at all painful but it is uncomfortable.

Mooseman
January 27, 2014, 03:20 PM
I seem to remember some sort of device that kept my eyes propped open after they were numbed. I'm pretty sure they temporarily paralyze your eye muscles so your eye doesn't move.

solvability
January 27, 2014, 03:30 PM
20 years ago my wife had it done - she went from legally blind to fighter pilot - I understand since that time it has gotten even better. I tried to watch it but could not - it is pretty intense.

Her downside was night vision - she was never comfortable driving at night the glare bothered her - her night vision was never very good but after the surgery it was unsafe for driving - get that clarified with the doctor before you go forward - it was still worth it on the balance.

I am lucky enough not to need much correction.

Tell the Doc you are doing this for shooting - he may have a perspective on this.

Devonai
January 27, 2014, 03:37 PM
I had mine done in 2006, it cost me $2500. I believe I was 20/200 prior to the surgery, and 20/15 after, under the right lighting conditions. I had a problem with single light sources after dark, including double vision, but that gradually improved over the years.

Unfortunately my acuity has been slipping, I'm at 20/25 and 20/30. I only notice it when I'm trying to watch TV; I need either a bigger TV or prescription lenses.

commygun
January 27, 2014, 04:18 PM
After a lifetime of glasses and contacts I had LASIK 5 years ago. It was free because I work for the ASC that provided it. Regardless, had I known what a difference it would make I would have done it years sooner, no matter the price. It's the closest thing to a Biblical miracle most of us will experience in this life.

Hyrulejedi86
January 27, 2014, 04:21 PM
I had it done 8 months ago for $2800. And I was -3 on my script. I still enjoy not needing glasses as I've had them since the 4th grade. I'm 27 and have 20/15 still. One of my college classmates had it done a year before I did and sees 20/10. I had custom lasik so it is exactly the recontouring needed to correct the vision and nothing more. It took 10 seconds per eye to do, most of the time was prep.

grogetr
January 27, 2014, 05:36 PM
I had mine done in 06. My right eye is a little weaker than the left but not enough to worry about for me. I still need reading glasses and have a hard time seeing the sights on a pistol, they are blurry. I get some cheap reading glasses that make the sights clear and leave the target fuzzy and it works ok. It cost $2500 for both eyes and was worth it to me. Find someone that has done LOTS of surgeries and has a good reputation. I don't think this is where you want to go price shopping for the cheapest you can find.

LSMS
January 27, 2014, 05:44 PM
I was quoted 3,000 when I asked about it. Unfortunately for me my eyes get worse year after year. My Dr. recommended for me to wait until they stabilize before getting it done. I'm 28 with -4.5 prescription.

Doc7
January 27, 2014, 06:02 PM
I am 28 now and had it done 4 years ago.

The first day I woke up and could actually read what time it was on my alarm clock without reaching for my glasses (or contacts), was a life changing moment for me.

Mine is degrading over time (I'm almost 29 now) I *think* although different optometrists keep telling me I am 20/20 (even in a different area, so no reason for them to push the lasik provider i used), so I think it is mostly my imagination.

If it completely reverted back to Pre-surgical vision again today, with no chance of a do-over, I still would GLADLY pay TRIPLE or MORE what I paid for it for the last 4 years. It is simply a life-changer if you can't see without contacts or glasses.

JohnBT
January 29, 2014, 07:10 AM
I'm 63 and have talked to 3 doctors about it during the past 5 years. One is even a duck hunter. They could correct my 20/1200+ distance vision, but it would ruin my near vision and I would have to wear reading glasses at my age. I don't now.

All 3 said I would need reading glasses to see a revolver sight.

And no, I don't want one eye done for distance and one for near. I tried that with contacts and never adapted to one eye always being out of focus. That was after wearing contacts for 15 years. I can wear contacts now, but can't see much inside 3 feet - like the speedometer. :)

As I recall, the surgeries were all in the $5k range. I had/have money burning a hole in my pocket, but they talked me out of it.

The duck hunting M.D. from the eye hospital told us to skip the surgery if we were doing well with our contacts or glasses. Most of the people attending the session appeared to be college age and only interested in improving their appearance by ditching their glasses.

John

jrdolall
January 29, 2014, 09:37 AM
I saw an add on TV last night for Lazik for $299 per eye. That's what I want. The lowest imaginable price for someone carving on my eye.

ironworkerwill
January 29, 2014, 09:26 PM
I saw the same price on TV and wondered if I had my contacts in! I am 20/200 and I can't see dog poo in broad daylight without correction. I'd rather not be the $299 test subject.

torqem
January 29, 2014, 11:30 PM
They fixed him up, over time, at no additional charge. But, because he couldn't work, he lost his construction biz. This was over 10 years ago, probably was a fluke even then, but it was disastrous for him. Lost his wife, all sorts of bad stuff. I'd make it a last resort sort of deal.

JEB
January 30, 2014, 12:17 AM
i had mine about 7 years ago. i paid $2150 per eye ($4300 total). without glasses i couldnt function. the day of my procedure i felt like i had a piece of sand in my eye for the rest of the day. just a little irritating. spent most of the day napping. when i woke up the next day i opened my eyes to 20/20 vision with absolutely no discomfort. they offered free touch-ups for a year, and about 8 months later i noticed that i was starting to squint a little when trying to read small print on the tv. same basic experience as before but with less irritation. only bothered me for a few hours. i have been enjoying near-perfect vision ever since. if you have bad vision, there is nothing i would recommend more highly than lasik. it has truly changed my life and i am thankful every day that i had it done. it has been bar-none the best money i have ever spent.

JoePfeiffer
January 30, 2014, 11:08 AM
Having it done tomorrow....

ironworkerwill
January 30, 2014, 04:18 PM
I looked up the company claiming $299 lasik. It's for the less than perfect vision touch up. At my -6 diopter it's NOT $299 more like $1500 an eye. Bait and Switch!

JoePfeiffer
February 1, 2014, 01:23 AM
Today was as smooth as possible. Dropped the dogs of at the kennel and drove to Albuquerque to Coleman Vision; checked in to the hotel across the street, went to the clinic. Ran the gauntlet of eye measuring gadgets, had a chat with the doctor, then a couple of seconds with the death ray. My wife walked me back across the parking lot to take a drugged nap for the rest of the afternoon; went out to dinner for a good steak. Back at the hotel now; I'd estimate my acuity is already better than with contacts, though not quite up to glasses (but no barrel distortion). A bit of a halo around lights, but this is looking great.

JoePfeiffer
February 1, 2014, 10:04 AM
Opened my eyes this morning and I can see. Wow.

Lloyd Smale
February 2, 2014, 07:50 AM
wish i could afford it but on a fixed income theres no way to come up with 5k

stringnut
February 2, 2014, 01:24 PM
Had mine done when it was still on clinical trial. About 5000. Must be pushing 17 or 18 years. Went many years without glasses. About 20/30 without glasses, so , need glasses to drive. Also about 5 years ago started needing glasses to read. If I had the distance vision corrected would still need reading glasses. Went progressive bifocals and everything is clear. Vision is still far better than could be corrected before lasik. Wife had hers around 15 years ago and is the only person we know that needed a touch up shortly after having it done. She also is into also has to wear glasses now,but, we aint spring chickens.

JoePfeiffer
February 6, 2014, 12:25 PM
delete post please

JoePfeiffer
February 6, 2014, 12:27 PM
Took my first post-LASIK trip to the range yesterday to try out my new eyes. They work! This is twenty rounds of 9mm (LGS in-house 115 FMJ reloads) through my Sig P226. One thing I find interesting is that my point of impact is higher than it used to be. It'll take a couple more trips before I decide whether I want to adjust my aim or get a taller front sight.

JoePfeiffer
March 7, 2014, 04:50 PM
Second post-op checkup at my optometrist today, and I'm still super happy with the result. The checkup was supposed to be last Friday (four weeks), but I was down with the creeping crud so had to reschedule.

I've gone from struggling to make out the big "E" to reading the lowest line on the chart. I'm still having some dry-eye and haloes around lights at night, which apparently can take months to clear up. Frankly, if my recovery stopped right here (with the dry-eye and haloes I've got now) I'd still be ecstatic.

Last post-op checkup will be at the end of April.

tiamat
March 14, 2014, 01:01 PM
Had mine done 3/11/11 at the cost of just under $4k after insurance picked up a whopping $395. Just had my yearly checkup - still better than 20/20 (just), but the right eye is starting to get age-related far-sightedness (I used to be heavily near-sighted, so that was a bit strange to hear).

My sight was fantastic immediately after the surgery (save for the halos and dryness) - they over-correct knowing that when the eye finishes healing the correction will be reduced. I'm honestly kinda surprised that my vision is already worsening after only 3 years post-surgery, but have to say that I've taken it for granted this entire time - I don't even think about how it was to wear glasses or contacts anymore.

Still have the halos though :(

needmorecowbell
March 16, 2014, 04:29 PM
Cost me and my wife $10 each back in 1998. Our health insurance plan covered it until about 2000. May have been whatever the procedure was called prior to Lasiks (PRK????), but was done by laser. Both still seeing great though.

Marvin Gardens
March 19, 2014, 07:44 PM
I had PRK done about six years ago. I chose the procedure due to a occupational hazard of getting punched in the eye. My doctor thought my precaution probably unnecessary but said it was up to me. As most things I get involved in, I overthought the procedure and made myself crazy after seeing three or four surgeons and then trying to make a decision.

I made one more appointment and saw a doctor at Cedars in L.A. I felt comfortable there, no need to choose a machine because they had them all. I tried contacts for mono vision and loved it after a short adjustment. I had mono vision surgery and love it. I have better than 20/20 for distance and can see my dash or the front sight of pistol or rifle perfectly. I do have to wear Costco readers for extremely close/fine detail work.

About those bargain vision centers. Someone has to buy the old laser machines and blades. Not joking.

Regards.

Bob

JoePfeiffer
April 25, 2014, 02:23 PM
Third and final post-op check today. Unless there's some surprise, this will be my last update on this.

Things are still going great. Still a little dry-eye but that's fading; still some haloes around lights at night but that's fading too. I came in at 20/20 in my right eye and 20/25 in my left today (and was a little surprised that it wasn't quite as clear as it had been on my last checkup. No particular reason it should have been, except we're in the middle of the windy/pollen season down here). I'm still right up at the high end of outcomes, and down at the low end of side effects.

One side effect I've had has actually been a mixed blessing -- something I noticed early on is that my near vision is now better than it was with contacts before, so I have less need (but still some need!) for reading glasses than before. It turns out that they don't sculpt the whole cornea when they do the job, so when my pupils dilate I get some near vision from that. Cool! Unfortunately, it also means my night distance vision isn't as good as my wife's (I'm honestly not sure whether it's better or worse than it was with contacts before).

Anyway, count me as an extremely happy customer.

tiamat
April 25, 2014, 04:14 PM
It turns out that they don't sculpt the whole cornea when they do the job, so when my pupils dilate I get some near vision from that. Cool! Unfortunately, it also means my night distance vision isn't as good as my wife's

Yup, that's also why halo's are more prevalent at night, and probably won't go away completely.

Doc68
April 28, 2014, 05:03 PM
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