Who has a rifle for their primary HD weapon?
natedog
March 31, 2004, 05:27 PM
Who uses a rifle as their primary HD weapon? AR-15s, AKs, etc? Lever actions? Bolt-actions?
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Black Snowman
March 31, 2004, 05:51 PM
Primary is a Bushmaster M17S bullpup with a Delta Elite as a BUG.
DMK
March 31, 2004, 07:18 PM
I have to say that my 12ga Mossberg is my primary HD gun, but I do have an AR-15 poodleshooter carbine as BUG to that. I figure it will be more helpful than the shottie if I'm ever attacked by hordes of mutant zombie ninja poodles. :neener:
Oh yea, I also have a 91/59 Mosin Nagant bolt action carbine ready with 180gr. softpoints in a bunch of stripper clips on the buttstock pouch. To be honest, I don't know what that's ready for, but it's a nice convenient, reliable package and I know I can be accurate with it so it's in the ready rack.
Mulliga
March 31, 2004, 07:45 PM
Primary HD - 20 ga. 870
Secondary HD - WASR-10 AK
Tertiary HD - Marlin semiauto .22
Quaternary...well, you get the picture :)
ocabj
March 31, 2004, 08:07 PM
My primary is a Remington 870 Express Synthetic (12 gauge) with factory 18.5" barrel and factory extended mag, with a Surefire forearm light, 6-shell sidesaddle, GG&G single point mount and Wilderness Single Point sling.
The sling isn't really necessary for HD, but I bought it because I want to take a shotgun course sometime.
Kaylee
March 31, 2004, 08:16 PM
tee... well right now the only gun in the house is a SAR-1, so I guess I fit that description now. sure hope noone tries to break in, my gramma lives across the street... :uhoh:
:)
JShirley
March 31, 2004, 08:34 PM
I'm partial to my Mossberg 500 w/ Remington Reduced Recoil slugs. That count? :)
John
Zeke Menuar
March 31, 2004, 09:07 PM
Primary: Western Field 550 12ga or LW Commander. Whichever I get to first
Last resort: Yugo SKS. I don't have proper HD ammo for the SKS so it had better a baaaad situation.
Really really really last resort. Hungarian M44 Mosin-Nagant. I suppose it would be quite formidable with the bayonet extended.
ZM
DragonRider
March 31, 2004, 09:14 PM
Post 9/14 it will be. I dont want to upset the what is in the works. Right now a Benelli H20 Nova with mag extension, light, and butt cuff. My HK USP .40 and my gf's Glock.
John
ChiefPilot
March 31, 2004, 09:37 PM
Bushmaster A3 16" with a streamlight M6 light/laser sight and loaded with 45gr JHPs....lots of them :D
Third_Rail
March 31, 2004, 09:42 PM
MN 1891/30 and Kar 98.
Overkill man AWAYYYYY! :D
KaceCoyote
March 31, 2004, 09:48 PM
Marlin 336CC .30-30
ny32182
March 31, 2004, 09:57 PM
I would keep a rifle loaded, but I live in a thin walled apartment for the time being, so I suspect that a stray round of anything heavier than a BB would pose a danger to the neighbors... of whats available, I worry about 9mm and .40 the least, so thats what I keep loaded.
.223 would be after those, and anything above that, forget it. I've heard all the stories about how poor a penetrator .223 is, but I simply don't buy it after seeing what it will go through compared to 9 and .40 gold dots. I've never tried any of the frangible stuff, but the 55gr FMJ and softpoint I have will go through a lot more of anything I've ever shot than the handgun rounds. My roommate keeps a 20ga with #3 buck.
If I lived in a brick house, I'd feel fine keeping a bushy carbine loaded for HD purposes.
Pumpkinheaver
March 31, 2004, 10:03 PM
I had an L1A1, but a buddy of mine decided he needed it more than me and offered me too much to pass on. Now I'll depend on my 1911 and my XD-9.
ChiefPilot
March 31, 2004, 10:16 PM
.223 would be after those, and anything above that, forget it. I've heard all the stories about how poor a penetrator .223 is, but I simply don't buy it after seeing what it will go through compared to 9 and .40 gold dots. I've never tried any of the frangible stuff, but the 55gr FMJ and softpoint I have will go through a lot more of anything I've ever shot than the handgun rounds.
The 45gr JHP rounds are fragments before they leave the far side of a pop can filled with water. 55gr FMJ bullets, especially if they're not cannalured(sp?), would penetrate far more. You definately have to select your ammo for the purpose at hand.
mondocomputerman
March 31, 2004, 10:59 PM
Romanian AK is my home defence gun. Soon to be a glock 19 since I live in an apartment and I worry about over penetration.
Darkside852003
March 31, 2004, 11:02 PM
My AR10 is my HD gun. A little overkill but........it makes me sleep well at night lol.
The_Antibubba
April 1, 2004, 04:58 AM
Rossi lever action in .357. Hope to get Mr. Mossberg home real soon. :D
Lawyerman
April 1, 2004, 08:21 AM
Count me as a rifle guy.
Tamara
April 1, 2004, 08:50 AM
For a while, my primary home defense longarm was a '94 Trapper in .45 Colt. (I was shotgunless)
At the moment, it's a 20" ex-po-po 870.
At some future date, Project AR will take the place of the 870.
Jake 98c/11b
April 1, 2004, 10:25 AM
Yep, pre 94 bushmaster dissapator. I have my shooting muffs draped over the carbine as well. Always does what I want it to, low penetration and more effective than any handgun I own. I have a Remington 870 police, 18" open choke barrel, full length tube and Surefire forend that loiters in the back of my safe, I just prefer rifles.
foghornl
April 1, 2004, 12:48 PM
1911-A1 is up first, then the Maverick 88/Mossy, and then the Most Serious Artillery...
The US Rifle Cal .30 M-1 Popularly known as 'The Garand'
Also keep the SKS close by, and then the Romanian M-44 Mosin-Nagant. I figure if I get down to the Mosin-Nagant, I can always use the extended bayo to fend off 1 or 2 while loading in another stripper clips worth...
:D :D
Smoke
April 1, 2004, 01:14 PM
870 is primary, backed up by whichever 1911 varient I pick up.
There is a loaded rifle at the ready, but if I've exhausted the ammo in the others, I figure I'll be dragging a few limbs if I'm even able to move to retrieve the rifle.
Smoke
clubsoda22
April 1, 2004, 01:50 PM
The winchester defender is the primary HD, unless i hear what sounds like a small army of gangbangers coming through the door, then the Arsenal SLR-101 gets some use.
The defender stays loaded, the AK has 2 full mags sitting near it. If i ever get to the bottom of the second mag i'd be supprised.
Black Snowman
April 1, 2004, 02:20 PM
I've heard all the stories about how poor a penetrator .223 is, but I simply don't buy it after seeing what it will go through compared to 9 and .40 gold dots.
Agreed that ammo selection is key. I use 55 gr HP and I have a 21.5" barrel so they zip out good and pretty much detonate on impact with just about anything. I figure the magazine capacity, controllability, and short length of the gun ballence out the reduced penetration of the HPs. Plus, if the 1st 30 rounds in the mag don't stop them they'll be blind and deaf from the muzzle flash while I reload ;)
Thunderstick
April 1, 2004, 04:42 PM
Well, let's see....
Choice of 3 Rem 870s, 12s and 20
Choice of 2 Marlin 60s in .22lr
US Rifle Caliber 30, M1 chambered for the .30-06
Ruger P90 chambered in a .45
My primary HD weapon would be the one closest to me at the time I need it!
Mannlicher
April 1, 2004, 07:52 PM
Tonight its one of my WWII .30 carbines, stuffed full of 110 grain Winchester SP. Darn these are neat little rifles.
N3rday
April 1, 2004, 11:15 PM
A little off the subject but...how long do loaded magazines last before they bite the dust?
Thats the one advantage of a pump or lever (or revovler for that matter) in self defense in my opinion...no magazine springs to worry about.
It would suck to have an old loaded mag go bad on you when you needed it, but since I am not a gun owner yet, I have no idea how much of a problem this presents, if any.
oh, currently my dad has an unloaded .38 spl under lock and key with no ammunition in the house as his primary. Secondary is a 6-shot bolt-action .22 in the garage attic (you know, for those zombie hordes:D ).
Again, no ammunition in the house. Nor does he ever go shooting.
So if the drug-crazed nazis attack I can pistol whip them!:D
natedog
April 1, 2004, 11:32 PM
I read an article about 90 year old 1911 GI magazines being found loaded in a warehouse. Fired all 7 rounds, and locked the slide back just like it they were supposed to. pump action shotgun and lever action rifles have magazine springs, too, so even if magazine springs went bad, they would be disadvantaged as well, in fact more so than autoloaders because with an auto you just press the little button the the grip and put a new one in. With a lever or pump action it is much more complicated.
Dr.Rob
April 1, 2004, 11:39 PM
For a long time the ONLY HD weapon my dad kept around was his Marlin 39A .22.
That's what he had, so thats what he used.
artherd
April 2, 2004, 02:42 AM
Depending on how long I have, and where I am, and how many it sounds like, I'd either go for the Glock 34 in 9mm, or the red-dot equiped Rem 7400 in .30-06 loaded with 150gr Ballistic Silvertips.
If I need more than 3 10 round mags for the 7400, then I had better be dealing at ranges my AR-30 .338LM understands (Ie 300-1500+yds).
Daniel
April 2, 2004, 07:28 AM
Yes.
My SMLE No.1 MKIII .303 Brit. My grandfathers and uncles used this make during the great war; this is the make I will always use.
Dionysusigma
April 3, 2004, 12:41 AM
Up till about a week ago, it was an AK... but then again, since my apartment walls don't seem to absorb sound ;) I don't think they'd take a .30cal bullet too well either. I recently bought a Mossberg 590 to use for HD.
MAKOwner
April 3, 2004, 01:03 AM
My Taurus PT92AF 9mm is my main home defense gun, but if anything goes down I'm only using it to get my ass to my gun closet and snag my SAR2. I figure 5.45 will be a little less likely to penetrate enough to get at some neighbors vs my 7.62 rifles.
I do have a Remington 1100 12 gauge that I inherited not too long ago, but I haven't gotten around to shooting it, and it's setup for skeet/bird shooting with a monster long barrel. I need to get it "tacticalized" and get some range time with it, then it will become my main HD gun... Unfortunately I don't have the spare money to blow on said "tacticalization", lol...
ducktapehero
April 3, 2004, 01:39 PM
I used to have a 1894 Marlin in 44 Mag as my HD gun. I lived in a rural area so I kept it full of 44 Mag 180 gr Silvertips(I think they were 180 grain). That gun was stolen, which sucks because I loved it. Oh well, now my HD is a Taurus 455 in 45acp and an Ithaca 37 12 gauge shotgun filled with #4 buck.
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