Clean your guns in a DISHWASHER?!


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Jim PHL
April 1, 2004, 12:16 PM
Overheard at the range this morning. Was this guy talking out his butt or does any, some, all of it make sense? Field strips his gun after the range and puts the parts right in with his dishes! Said the water is not hot enough to do damage, the detergents were not harsh enough to do damage, even the 'heat-dry' cycle can't hurt your gun "if it doesn't even hurt a Cool Whip lid". Heard him say he always takes them out right away and hits them with spray lube (I think he meant like a CLP with the little red tube?)

Sure would make things easier if it works. Does it?

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PATH
April 1, 2004, 12:18 PM
Okay! I am not falling for this April Fool gag! Some of the other guys got me but I'm not falling for it again!

pauli
April 1, 2004, 12:20 PM
maybe if the gun's all polymer and hard chrome...

safe or not for the gun, biggest issue i see is getting all that crap on dishes you intend to eat off of. sure, they're being washed too, but... man.

edit: good point, path :p

Jim PHL
April 1, 2004, 12:26 PM
This isn't an April fool's joke from me although this guy may have been pulling one on his buddy at the range! (If he was I fell for it and his buddy did, too!) He sounded serious to me.

I think if I were to try it I would do gun parts only and not put them in with my dishes! (Besides, if I shot everything that day there wouldn't be any room for dishes!)

MrAcheson
April 1, 2004, 01:02 PM
If your gun is stainless or hardchrome you can probably do this, just take the grips off first. If its blue you will have an awful awful mess, ever seen an orange handgun?. Its a trick that is especially useful with black powder guns since BP residue has been cleaned with hot soapy water for centuries. With more modern guns, I don't know if it would work as well because you need better solvents.

stans
April 1, 2004, 02:06 PM
I'm sure it's doable, but I ain't gonna be the one to do it! I like my guns free of that interesting orange color.

foghornl
April 1, 2004, 02:16 PM
Used to do that with my old repro of the 1858 Army Remington. Just took off the wood grips, and let it run.

Should seen the look on wife's face the time I forgot to take it out of the dishwasher before she got back home....


:what: :what: :what: :what: :what: Isn't even close.

NC Shooter
April 1, 2004, 02:26 PM
Back when I was rebuilding a Jag E-Type my wife opened to dishwasher and the conversation went something like this: "What are these mushroom looking thingies?"

"Valves" I said.

She almost made me buy her a new dishwasher, but the valves were very clean.

sm
April 1, 2004, 02:40 PM
Yes I have heard of the Glock and other polymer gun owners doing this.
I'd be concerned with the lead and all the other stuff getting into dishwasher system...for the dishes for loads later.

I've never done it , nor would I.

I may or may not have not cleaned shotgun hulls in the washing machine I may or may not know ...women folk...like my wife at the time throw a hissy fit when their delicate bag dealie is used for such.:D

I may or may not have had to buy her a new one...bought me two...them little bags , with the fine holes, and draw tie are perfect for spent hulls ...zippers break on the other style of these...who me do testing on "delicate bags" for non "delicate washables ?"...not me. ;)

renaissance
April 1, 2004, 02:52 PM
That was standard operating procedure back when I was into Black Powder Cap and Ball.
It worked BETTER than the chemical cleaners, and never hurt a thing.

You do want to remove any wood grip panels though.

scbair
April 1, 2004, 03:09 PM
in the late 70's, some officers with my municipal PD were issued nice, shiny S&W M64s. Stainless!!! After our next qualification shoot, one guy got the bright idea of using the dishwasher as an energy-saving device (his energy, that is). He took the grips off & placed it in his dishwasher. After all, it was stainless . . .

I dunno what type of detergent he used :what: but he finally admitted his action when the lieutenant questioned the sickly green color of his nice, new sidearm at the next uniform inspection. Yep, it was a really putrid green, and I don't recall if or when it "wore off."

Ya know, though, putting everything in perspective, this idea isn't so far out. Last holiday season, some outfit published or distributed the obligatory annual "Tips for Cooking Your Holiday Turkey." One of the tips was to NOT try to use your dishwasher to cook the turkey.:banghead:
And no, this isn't an April Fool's joke either. :rolleyes:

PATH
April 1, 2004, 03:20 PM
Okay. I'll bite. I don't think using the dishwasher is the best idea for cleaning a firearm. Lead contamination for one thing would stop me. What other oils and solvents might come off and stay in said dishwasher. No, I'll wash my dishes but not my guns in the dishwasher. Besides, I rather enjoy sitting at my bench cleaning my firearms!

Jay Kominek
April 1, 2004, 04:33 PM
I had some milsurp mags that had nasty greasy crap on the inside that I just couldn't get off with anything. (I was working on that for days, I swear! compressed air, brake degreaser, orange clean, gum-off, etc) I took them apart, put all the pieces in the dishwasher and ran them through. They came out completely clean. They did develop a little bit of rust around the edges where the finish had been worn off, but I cleaned that off, rubbed them down with a bit of oil, and everything has been fine.
And I'd do it again! :)
But I don't think I'd ever stick a gun in the washer.

Kalos
April 1, 2004, 05:39 PM
A friend of mine is constantly telling me to do this to take care of cosmo on milsurps. I think he's a nut... o.O

dan_s
April 1, 2004, 05:49 PM
Remember that a diswasher cleans by abrasion.. kind of like a weak sand blasting..

tc300mag1
April 1, 2004, 06:12 PM
One of the local cops was saying that the city told them to clean there glocks that way when they were first issued ... wonder why he said he never did it :rolleyes:

sm
April 1, 2004, 06:12 PM
Some dishwashing detergents can really do serious harm to finishes, like the stainless gun above.

That is the reason Sterling Silver flatware and such is to NEVER go into dishwasher. Just like putting Rubber Bands on Sterling Silver a discoloration will occur. THE only way to remove discoloration is to polish it off ,with a buffing wheel on a polishing machine using Fabulustre, various rouges ( red, white, black) . If silverplated, you are really screwed, because then if one polishes, you have gone down to base metal. IIRC $400 to have a S/P tray re silvered.

Mother in laws S/P tray mind you...the one with the engraving of 25th Wedding anniversary.

If another chemical is introduced ( mixed) with the dishwashing detergents...either from the gun itself...or the gun owner figures he can "help move stuff along quicker"...by adding a solvent....

Old boy learned the cost of a new Nickel finish was expensive from Colt. It had to wait , new dishwasher for the wife had to be bought first.

Why do stuff like this?

Yes there is recipe to cook fish in the dishwasher. I actually witnessed this.

Clean the trout, lemon and butter inside the trout wrap in foil. Just like you would do in a oven, or in the coals of campfire. Tossed on top rack of dishwasher, it gets hot enough during rinse and dry cycle to cook the trout.

Oh one fellow did all the above "stunts". The Colt, the silverware, MIL S/P tray, and the fish. He has a PhD. In Education btw. I understand ( from his wife with clenched teeth) he has pulled a lot of stunts...keeps learning how to pull more stunts...was not quite so bad before the Internet she said.

Tango Sierra
April 1, 2004, 07:43 PM
Back in 1972 I was installing a new camshaft and pistons in my Honda CB500 Four and decided to run the head and cylinders through our dishwasher to clean them up. My wife went to fill the dishwasher and wanted to know what those things were doing in "her" new dishwasher. I said I thought it was "our" new dishwasher, after all when we went to buy it she said "we" needed a dishwasher. I never understood the need for one since I had grown up just fine without one. Now I had found use for one and she was ticked off.

..
April 1, 2004, 11:47 PM
I've heard old timers telling me they clean their guns in the dishwasher or shower. They all said to be certain and oil properly afterwards.

It's like gun scrubber, a shortcut for the lazy and not a replacement for a good detailed cleaning. Folks try to do this instead of gaining the skill and tools to clean their guns properly.

wardog
April 2, 2004, 01:31 AM
A guy I knew in CA said he cleaned his stainless steel revolvers in the dishwasher. Thought he was a nut.

Also, someone was just telling me about a great salmon recipe that is cooked in the dishwasher! Something about wrapping it in several layers of foil, etc.... Didn't really pay much attention. No this is not an April Fool's joke.

AJ Dual
April 2, 2004, 11:51 AM
I clean cosmoline of of C&R milsurps with a soft nylon bristle brush, "Purple Power" degreaser, and boiling water to melt grease out of any nooks and crannies, and the warm metal from the boiling rinse is also self-drying.

I can't imagine that the pH of purple power and the temperature of boiling water can be that different than the inside of a dishwasher. Just be aware of what your finish is. If the finish would handle it, I'd probably do it for black-powder cleanup though. Because of the corrosive nature of BP residue, copius ammounts of water, and low pH cleaners like Windex are recomended anyway.

I'd probably feel comfortable doing it to one of my Glocks, or my HK USP, but they're so easy to clean anyway, and milsurp bolt-actions won't fit in the dishwasher, so why bother?

Beav
April 2, 2004, 11:55 AM
Has anyone used a steam cleaner? I was using one at my parents house the other day and the thought crossed my mind.

12 Volt Man
April 2, 2004, 12:05 PM
To get the cosmoline off my last Makarov, I field stripped it an put it in a pan of water. I took it almost to boiling on the stove. Everything came right off. It made the gun hot enough that the water evaporated right off the gun when I took it out of the water. Then I oiled it up with CLP while it was still hot. Worked great.
I would be a little leary of the dishwasher though.

BUSTER
April 2, 2004, 08:58 PM
its actually a very common practice with glocks and glock clone type guns,
i enjoy cleaning my guns the old fashioned way as you can look for wear and problems that may be developing,whatever melts your butter:rolleyes:

shotcalla
April 3, 2004, 08:50 AM
I have used the dishwasher to clean my 5900 series SS mags bodies. They came out looking brand new!

The_Antibubba
April 3, 2004, 08:55 PM
Yes, but won't it leave unattractive water spots on your fine guns? :D

Abominable No-Man
April 4, 2004, 12:26 AM
If the water is hot enough it will just evaporate off of the gun and you won't see much rust. As I understand, the military used to clean M14 barrels with boiling water sometimes- don't know if it is true.

BUT.........the gun would have to be reallly f***ed up for me to put it in the dishwasher.

I don't know about the solvents, I would think they would all get rinsed away- if I were to do it I would make sure that the gun was the only thing in there, anyway.

ANM

Dave R
April 4, 2004, 12:35 AM
I doubt the dishwasher would do anything for your bore. And I KNOW the dishwasher would not do anything for copper fouling or leading.

Powder fouling, sure. Anything cleans that.

gbran
April 4, 2004, 01:49 AM
I cook fish in the dishwasher. No soap obviously. Add your additives, spices, etc. Wrap in tin foil, poke some small holes with toothpick and put it on normal wash. Of course I'm a bachelor and have even been known to take my dishes to the coin op carwash in a milk crate.

But, somehow, I don't think I'll put my guns thru a dishwasher.

Marshall
April 4, 2004, 05:15 AM
The top rack of the dishwasher is a great way to make your favorite brimmed caps look new again. Spray a little Spray & Wash on the dirty places, pour your favorite detergent in the dishwasher, place them on the top rack positioned nicely and use heated dry. You will have a brand new hat when the dishwasher's done. All you have to do now is hang them up to completely dry.

:D

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