scout scopes?


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fromtheplaines
February 19, 2014, 08:49 PM
I was looking to get a scout rifle set up going. When you google scout scopes you get a Hodge podge of info. When I was at bass today the guy was talking about needing a specific scout scope. Is that the case? Normally I don't like taking advice from some one who's trying to sell me something. I have a 40mm 3x9 pro staff already. Wanted to get the thoughts of the thr

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rcmodel
February 19, 2014, 09:12 PM
A Scout scope HAS to have extended eye relief or you can't see through it mounted that far from your eye.

A normal 3-9x rifle scope simply cannot be used in a Scout mount when it is mounted that far from your eye.

Burris & Leupold make scout scopes with the proper long eye relief.
Also some handgun scopes will work fine.

But no ordinary rifle scope with 2" - 3" eye relief will work mounted 10" - 12" in front of your eye.

Because you simply cannot see anything through them at all.

BTW: You will not find any high magnification 3-9x variable Scout scopes either.
High power, and long eye relief do not coexist together at all due to a narrow field-of-view, and more critical eye relief at higher powers.

rc

fromtheplaines
February 19, 2014, 09:40 PM
Great thanks for the heads up. Are the scopes made by AIM any good? They seem to get good reviews on Amazon, but the cheap price makes me weary

PBR Streetgang
February 19, 2014, 09:49 PM
I have a Burris on a Savage Scout...it does its job. I don't think I'd go anything cheaper..........

rcmodel
February 19, 2014, 09:55 PM
but the cheap price makes me wearyWell you should be!

In optics, as well as most other things in life.

You usually get what you pay for.

The AIM is a cheap Chinese scope, sold at a Chinese cheap scope price.
You might get a good one?

Or you might spend more on ammo trying to sight it in then you paid for it.

rc

fromtheplaines
February 19, 2014, 09:55 PM
I am going to place it on a spanish mauser so I am not looking to drop a ton either

fromtheplaines
February 19, 2014, 10:01 PM
I hear you rc, I think I am going to pass on that one. Save up a bit and get something of higher quality

greyling22
February 22, 2014, 10:34 AM
A lot of guys seem to be reporting success with the ncstar pistolero long eye relief scopes on mosins and marlin's. I have looked through this leatherwood and it looked ok http://www.midwayusa.com/product/761874/leatherwood-hi-lux-atr-long-eye-relief-scout-rifle-scope-2-7x-32mm-2-plex-reticle-matte and I have used both simmons and leupold pistol scopse as well as the burris scout scope. they all work about the same. 2.5x is perfect for me. MY eyes aren't great, so 2x is a littel weak, and much over 3-4x is fairly un-usable without a rest.

PBR Streetgang
February 22, 2014, 01:55 PM
From what I have read,scout scopes are supposed to be low powered. This is so the shooter can keep both eyes open when shooting through the scope........

perpster
February 22, 2014, 03:41 PM
"The Forward Telescope

For those who have not tried it, an explanation of the advantages of the forward telescope is in order. First, and most important, the forward glass does not obscure the landscape. With both eyes open the shooter sees the entire countryside as well as the crosswire printed on his target. For this reason it is important that the magnification of the telescope be no greater than 3X (some hold that 2X is maximum) in order to avoid excessive disparity between the vision of the two eyes. This forward mount, properly used and understood, is the fastest sighting arrangement available to the rifleman...There are those who think that a glass of low power is necessarily less precise for long-range precision work, but we have not found this to be the case in any sort of realistic test.

There are many additional advantages to the forward telescope mount. It is out of the way when the rifle is carried at the balance. It may be mounted as low over the bore as the diameter of the bell permits. It avoids pinching between thumb and bolt handle when the bolt is operated. It permits stripper loading if desired. It greatly facilitates single-loading with eyes on target. It completely eliminates "telescope eye." Without exception, those who have tried the forward mounted glass in a full course of rifle training are unanimous in their conviction of its superiority..."


http://chingsling.com/#Telescope

docsleepy
February 22, 2014, 03:58 PM
Lots of good information here. The reason I use a scout scope is because it can be easily mounted on a Mosin. I have had good success with the NCStar 27 X long eye relief scopes, generally about $49 on Amazon.

I must've used at least three of these, and have not had one give me trouble yet. There zeroing Adjustment systems are rather simple and primitive, but they hold a zero to a Mosin-Nagant quite well. Elsewhere I have described a highly modified Mosin-Nagant that generally gets 1 1/4 inch to 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. That rifle using that scope, has been pretty reliable up to 600 yards, and once hit an 800 yard target. These are with somewhat underpowered hand loaded rounds, 150 grains.

fromtheplaines
February 23, 2014, 09:06 PM
Thanks for all the info. I was curious when it comes to the scopes with the multiple crosshairs. I see a few of them have it zeroed at 200 and goes from there. My range ends at 200. If I zero it in at 100 would that throw off the ballistics on the other cross hairs than

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