USFA Zip .22lr pistol


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LKLive13
March 3, 2014, 02:11 AM
Anyone here have one of these little guns? They look pretty cool for a conversation piece at the range.
http://www.zipfactory.com/pdf/HelloZIP.pdf

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kilibreaux
March 3, 2014, 03:44 AM
I've seen 'em...they look interesting but I'm not sure why the design is as it is.

Field Tester
March 3, 2014, 04:30 AM
Do a bit of research on them. I wouldn't own one if you paid me. Too many failures. I appreciate my fingers.
I wish this company would go back to revolvers.

bannockburn
March 3, 2014, 07:48 AM
Took a look at it and came away disinterested. The design doesn't do much of anything for me and overall I can't see much usefulness to it.

Sam1911
March 3, 2014, 08:12 AM
One of our Staff members reviewed the Zip at last year's SHOT show.

http://www.shootingreviews.com/zip-22/

Probably the most appropriate summation was this line:

Then things got worse.

CraigC
March 3, 2014, 09:55 AM
They could be the coolest thing since sliced bread and I wouldn't buy one in protest. That said, I think the consensus is that they are not the coolest thing since sliced bread, far from it.

Sam1911
March 3, 2014, 09:56 AM
Sliced bread is like, "the Fonz," compared to these. :D

stressed
March 3, 2014, 10:04 AM
dumb

mgmorden
March 3, 2014, 10:11 AM
You have to almost stick your fingers in front of the muzzle to cycle the bolt. That alone is enough to make me not buy one.

Innovation is good when it makes sense. "Innovation" like this which exists solely to jump out and say "Look guys, we changed all sorts of stuff, isn't it great!!??!?!" is just pointless. Change is only positive when its useful.

CajunBass
March 3, 2014, 12:38 PM
There are not many guns that I say are junk, and I would not have one, but this one makes the list.

weblance
March 3, 2014, 01:42 PM
I have one. It took a while to get it running correctly. It will only run right with the 10 shot standard Ruger magazine. The trigger is terrible. long and stiff. There are reports it will fire out of battery, but I never had that problem. It is ammo sensitive. It will run ok with CCI Blazers. There is no way to lock the bolt open. It doesnt lock open on an empty magazine. I bought the threaded barrel kit so I could shoot it with my silencer. There is no shoulder on the barrel for the silencer to register against. I emailed USFA about this issue, and got a response that made no sense. It was like they had no idea what I was talking about. It was cheap, $200. I wouldnt worry about throwing it in the bottom of a tackle box, because its all plastic. No bluing, or metal to scratch. It might be worth something in 50 years, because there wont be many around. I doubt USFA will sell more than 1,000 of these...

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/weblance/IMG_7170Small_zps5969c051.jpg

Onmilo
March 3, 2014, 11:12 PM
That suppressor is a good idea if the gun will function reliably with it installed.
At least it makes it much harder to shoot the tip of your finger off.

PistolPete45
March 3, 2014, 11:23 PM
Onmilo just gave the most favorable review I have seen for the ZIP .. I owned a few stinkers in 30 years but this little thing seems to take the prize for worst attempt at handgun ..

LKLive13
March 3, 2014, 11:33 PM
I think I want one just because it's very different and not very many folks have one. I like odd things and this one surely hits that mark...lol!!

rcmodel
March 3, 2014, 11:45 PM
I can't think of a single mark it hits?

I think the guy that owns USFA got to smoking too much Crack after getting rich making the best Single-Actions made in the world and then flushing the factory down the drain to buy more Crack.

Maybe his next big move should be to move to Canada and run for mayor of Toronto.
The Crack mayor there needs a Crack smoking opponent next election.

rc

Field Tester
March 3, 2014, 11:50 PM
I think I want one just because it's very different and not very many folks have one. I like odd things and this one surely hits that mark...lol!!
There are many reasons for that.

I can do ugly and uncommon. To some people, that is part of the allure. I don't necessarily disagree. However this firearm has been known to fire out of battery.

A firearm that can injure and take fingers is not "different", it's just a badly made firearm that should be avoided at all costs.

Pilot
March 4, 2014, 10:37 AM
I can't think of a single mark it hits?

I think the guy that owns USFA got to smoking too much Crack after getting rich making the best Single-Actions made in the world and then flushing the factory down the drain to buy more Crack.

Maybe his next big move should be to move to Canada and run for mayor of Toronto.
The Crack mayor there needs a Crack smoking opponent next election.

rc
My thoughts exactly. How can you go from making really nice SAA revolvers to making this? I have a USFA SAA, and it is a fine gun. I would never own a Zip.

Arkansas Paul
March 4, 2014, 11:08 AM
I'll pass.

zoom6zoom
March 4, 2014, 12:24 PM
A friend of mine has one. After watching him (try to) shoot it, I declined to give it a try. It's a POS.

Giterboosted
March 5, 2014, 11:13 AM
We have one for sale here at my store, I find it sincerely impractical, only use I can think of is calming or fishing use for someone who doesn't like guns

commygun
March 6, 2014, 06:11 PM
I'm very open to the unusual but I can't imagine what the rationale was for making this gun. It almost looks deliberately designed to fail.

USAF_Vet
March 7, 2014, 03:16 AM
When the first publicity shots came up online for this gun, I wanted one. Then I read some first hand reviews on them after the initial release, and I still wanted one, but not as badly. After a few more reviews, I no longer wanted one. I'm glad I never got one, have not heard a good thing yet.

trigga
March 9, 2014, 12:57 AM
i never realized how big and bulky that thing is. if they make a 20 magazine that you could put a sleeve over to get a better grip, maybe i would consider it.

Theohazard
March 9, 2014, 06:32 AM
I can't think of a single mark it hits?

I can't imagine what the rationale was for making this gun.
The idea behind it is a modular pistol. You can attach it to the Picatinny rail on a rifle or attach a stock to it and make it into a rifle. But those options require extra NFA registration and aren't very useful anyway. And, more importantly, the gun itself doesn't work very well, which kind of defeats the purpose. And that horrendous trigger pull doesn't help.

amd6547
March 9, 2014, 11:41 AM
"If" the Zip was reliable, I would probably buy one just for fun. No interest at all in having to do anything but load magazines to make it work.

rswartsell
March 9, 2014, 12:15 PM
I think I gotta go with rc's crack theory. Unbelievable!

This thing makes Dr. Zippermeyer's Whirlwind Cannon seem almost practical (look it up). Makes those nasty little Double Taps seem brilliant.

texagun
March 9, 2014, 12:15 PM
I wonder what Doug Donnelly was thinking of when he shut down production of the excellent SAA line to produce this monstrosity?:confused:

9 fingers
March 9, 2014, 05:29 PM
Normally I like stuff that is different and kind of cool but this just looks stupid, different for the sake of being different.
9 fingers

Travtastik
March 9, 2014, 05:44 PM
My LGS has had one for months collecting dust. He couldn't give the thing away. Once he figure out it would connect to the rail on a AR he has sold tons of them to every mall ninja around. He can't keep them in stock.

Theohazard
March 9, 2014, 06:06 PM
My LGS has had one for months collecting dust. He couldn't give the thing away. Once he figure out it would connect to the rail on a AR he has sold tons of them to every mall ninja around. He can't keep them in stock.
I hope he tells his customers that if they attach it to their AR without proper BATFE registration they're commiting a felony punishable by up to 10 years in federal prison and a $250,000 fine.

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