VictorLouis
February 5, 2003, 12:09 PM
What gun was that he used? Horrible movie, but at least they got the size of the suppressor correct, instead of the usual 'film cannister' sized one which they usually use.:rolleyes:
Steven Seagal's "The Foreigner"
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Mastrogiacomo
February 5, 2003, 08:19 PM
I love Steven Segal -- and almost rented this movie. Was it really that bad? Any martial arts or just another pathetic attempt at acting?:scrutiny:
10-Ring
February 5, 2003, 08:35 PM
Isnt Seagal a 1911 kinda guy?
KMKeller
February 5, 2003, 10:57 PM
Yep, he's a 1911 kinda guy... and a rather notorious wife beater.
Hkmp5sd
February 6, 2003, 12:38 AM
I don't know what it is, but I do know what it ain't. It isn't a 1911.
And yea, it's a pretty lame movie.
And yea, it's a pretty lame movie.
makdaddy03
February 6, 2003, 12:57 AM
Did you know that "Steven Segal" is an "ANTIGUN" man? Check
out NRAs list of anti gunners you may be surprised.:fire:
out NRAs list of anti gunners you may be surprised.:fire:
Kahr carrier
February 6, 2003, 06:27 AM
That is a surprise ,he is suppose to have a stable of 1911s by TERRY TUSSY.:(
modifiedbrowning
February 6, 2003, 09:49 AM
I didn't think anyone else had actually rented this movie.:D He didn't use 1911, looked like some sort of Sig knockoff to me.
It wasn't a completely Terrible movie, but it did have that annoying music video style cinematography, like in "Behind Enemy Lines". You know, where they speed up the film and blur stuff together. That is very annoying.
It wasn't a completely Terrible movie, but it did have that annoying music video style cinematography, like in "Behind Enemy Lines". You know, where they speed up the film and blur stuff together. That is very annoying.
VictorLouis
February 6, 2003, 11:39 AM
Very few scenes demonstrating his Aikido prowess. I suppose that swollen gut that he's grown might be getting in his way.:o Movie's plot was not only thin, but somewhat difficult to follow. I suppose that the choppy editing of the film may have exacerbated that, however.
Now, the gun was dull matte finished, and looked somewhat like a South African Mamba in profile. The rear of the slide was curved dramatically forward like on a Beretta 92/96. It was SA cocked-and-locked in operation, with huge safety levers ala the Beretta Billenium. The trigger guard was relieved and deeply checkered for a finger-forward grasp, and there was a set of forward grasping serrations on the front of the slide, also. Near as I could tell, it was single-stack, though the one scene with a mag swap makes it hard to discern, even with DVD.
Now, the gun was dull matte finished, and looked somewhat like a South African Mamba in profile. The rear of the slide was curved dramatically forward like on a Beretta 92/96. It was SA cocked-and-locked in operation, with huge safety levers ala the Beretta Billenium. The trigger guard was relieved and deeply checkered for a finger-forward grasp, and there was a set of forward grasping serrations on the front of the slide, also. Near as I could tell, it was single-stack, though the one scene with a mag swap makes it hard to discern, even with DVD.
HaveGun
February 6, 2003, 11:52 AM
Yes, Tussy does make his 45s. Tussy is a friend of his. No he is not anti gun!
D.W. Drang
February 6, 2003, 12:22 PM
Did you know that "Steven Segal" is an "ANTIGUN" man? Check out NRAs list of anti gunners you may be surprised. :what: Where is this list? :confused: I'm surprised that the NRA would list a guy who donated $100k+ on such a thing... :evil:
Spackler
February 6, 2003, 12:47 PM
Seagal is not on this NRA list of anti-gun celebrities:
http://www.nraila.org/FactSheets.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=15&1=View
http://www.nraila.org/FactSheets.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=15&1=View
makdaddy03
February 6, 2003, 12:57 PM
It was on there last week. So, I guess I can start watching his movies again.;) What about that Sean Connery?:fire:
Spackler
February 6, 2003, 01:06 PM
The list is on the NRA website.
The link I provided above is from the NRA-ILA site, and Seagal's name doesn't appear on the list. How about a link to the list that his name appears on?
The link I provided above is from the NRA-ILA site, and Seagal's name doesn't appear on the list. How about a link to the list that his name appears on?
agtman
February 6, 2003, 01:09 PM
Last I read (somewhere), Seagal's a Life Member of the NRA and has appeared at NRA-sponsored shooting events with other stars.
Until the earlier post above, I hadn't heard anything different, (except that some of his more recent films weren't liked nearly as well as his earlier stuff).
Until the earlier post above, I hadn't heard anything different, (except that some of his more recent films weren't liked nearly as well as his earlier stuff).
Slabside
February 6, 2003, 03:07 PM
Guns & Ammo magazine did a six page article on Steven Seagal in the "Complete Book Of The .45" magazine, 0-8227-3322-6, 1996, pages 78-83, by Paul Hantke.
Seagal is very proficient in the use and mechanics of 1911s. Terry Tussey has indeed built several 1911s for Seagal with Caspian frames. http://www.tusseycustom.com/customers.htm
Seagal prefers to use his personal 1911s in movies. He has also instructed police officers.
Seagal developed his own training and practice program. "Seagal says he tries to keep his handgun skills in tune with this regimen, firing up to 3,000 rounds a month when he has the time and opportunity to do so."
"he is one of the few high-profile celebrities around who is not afraid to be known as a shooter and a gun owner. Seagal clearly doesn't give a rat's flying fanny about how the meek view the "political correctness" of his actions"
"Steven has attended the NRA's Charlton Heston Celebrity Shoot whenever possible, and he is qiuck to stand and be counted with those of us who believe in the Bill of Rights."
Seagal is a NRA Lifetime Member.
Seagal is very proficient in the use and mechanics of 1911s. Terry Tussey has indeed built several 1911s for Seagal with Caspian frames. http://www.tusseycustom.com/customers.htm
Seagal prefers to use his personal 1911s in movies. He has also instructed police officers.
Seagal developed his own training and practice program. "Seagal says he tries to keep his handgun skills in tune with this regimen, firing up to 3,000 rounds a month when he has the time and opportunity to do so."
"he is one of the few high-profile celebrities around who is not afraid to be known as a shooter and a gun owner. Seagal clearly doesn't give a rat's flying fanny about how the meek view the "political correctness" of his actions"
"Steven has attended the NRA's Charlton Heston Celebrity Shoot whenever possible, and he is qiuck to stand and be counted with those of us who believe in the Bill of Rights."
Seagal is a NRA Lifetime Member.
Johnpl
February 6, 2003, 03:15 PM
Steven Seagal: bad actor...big hunter. He got alot of negative publicity for sponsoring an antelope hunt several years ago, but I admire the fact that he "stood by his guns", so to speak;)
CWL
February 6, 2003, 04:07 PM
Steven Segal, big .45 fan. Carries 2 custom .45s on him. No longer close to his gunsmith since he was caught freebasing on a set of Segal's movies.
Segal IS a real gun affecionado, great former martial artist.
Not a real "man" since he abuses women, namely his wives, was a polygamist, lived off his Japanese wife until he got a Hollywood contract & then divorced her & abandoned his 2 kids.
Would you guys respect a man who falsely claimed to be a SEAL or Green Beret? Segal built a career feigning CIA/Killer reputation and mobster-killer. Well documented how he folded when extorted by smalltime mobsters. Never stood up and accounted for himself in real life.
Segal IS a real gun affecionado, great former martial artist.
Not a real "man" since he abuses women, namely his wives, was a polygamist, lived off his Japanese wife until he got a Hollywood contract & then divorced her & abandoned his 2 kids.
Would you guys respect a man who falsely claimed to be a SEAL or Green Beret? Segal built a career feigning CIA/Killer reputation and mobster-killer. Well documented how he folded when extorted by smalltime mobsters. Never stood up and accounted for himself in real life.
Skunkabilly
February 6, 2003, 04:10 PM
I hear he's not too bad of a guitar picker, either.
Harold Mayo
February 6, 2003, 06:37 PM
Come on CWL, polygamy doesn't make you a bad guy. It's just downright dumb. After all, why would a guy possibly want more than ONE woman around...?
Spackler
February 6, 2003, 06:46 PM
No longer close to his gunsmith since he was caught freebasing on a set of Segal's movies.
I don't think you want to be throwing accusations around unless you have the facts to back them up. It is widely known that Terry Tussey has done some work for Seagal, and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate the accusations.
I don't think you want to be throwing accusations around unless you have the facts to back them up. It is widely known that Terry Tussey has done some work for Seagal, and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate the accusations.
Mastrogiacomo
February 6, 2003, 09:34 PM
Damn am I mad by that list of celebrities on the NRA Anti page!!:fire: :fire: :fire: I actually like quite a few and these people are out to violate my rights as a gun owner -- AND MOST HAVE USED GUNS IN FILMS!!!:cuss:
Hkmp5sd
February 6, 2003, 09:49 PM
that list of celebrities on the NRA Anti page!!
Yea, they could save a lot of time and bandwith by just listing the Pro-2nd Amendment celebrities.
Yea, they could save a lot of time and bandwith by just listing the Pro-2nd Amendment celebrities.
CWL
February 6, 2003, 09:53 PM
I didn't use any names did I?
Spackler
February 6, 2003, 10:16 PM
I didn't use any names did I?
You didn't have to. Tussey's name was mentioned earlier in the thread. Also, see:
http://www.tusseycustom.com/customers.htm
Tussey's connection to Seagal is well known, so when you say "his gunsmith", the implication is that you are talking about Tussey, much the same way that if you said "Sean Smith's gunsmith", that would imply Dane Burns.
You didn't have to. Tussey's name was mentioned earlier in the thread. Also, see:
http://www.tusseycustom.com/customers.htm
Tussey's connection to Seagal is well known, so when you say "his gunsmith", the implication is that you are talking about Tussey, much the same way that if you said "Sean Smith's gunsmith", that would imply Dane Burns.
CWL
February 6, 2003, 11:04 PM
Now you're bringing up someone kicked-out of the American Pistolsmiths Guild as well as banned from 1911.org.
Spackler
February 7, 2003, 08:47 AM
Sure. Fine. Whatever.
D.W. Drang
February 7, 2003, 02:03 PM
:rolleyes:
:banghead:
Ok, so all the bickering aside, what kind of gun WAS it in this movie I never even heard of? ;)
My favorite scene from any Seghal flik has to be at the end of The Patriot when all the NG's in MOPP IV are gathering flowers in their waterproof bags... :D
:banghead:
Ok, so all the bickering aside, what kind of gun WAS it in this movie I never even heard of? ;)
My favorite scene from any Seghal flik has to be at the end of The Patriot when all the NG's in MOPP IV are gathering flowers in their waterproof bags... :D
Hkmp5sd
February 7, 2003, 02:42 PM
what kind of gun WAS it
It looks like some kind of combination of a Browning Hi-Power and a SIG P226.
It looks like some kind of combination of a Browning Hi-Power and a SIG P226.
Beorn
February 7, 2003, 04:03 PM
Some of those names really surprised me...
I mean really, Kevin Costner? Sean Connery? Steve Buscemi?
I was truly disappointed.
Apparently, it's okay to use guns in Hollywood, because it's not "real life."
Which would they rather have show up outside they're door when the bad guys show up, the ACLU or the LAPD?
I mean really, Kevin Costner? Sean Connery? Steve Buscemi?
I was truly disappointed.
Apparently, it's okay to use guns in Hollywood, because it's not "real life."
Which would they rather have show up outside they're door when the bad guys show up, the ACLU or the LAPD?
Hkmp5sd
February 7, 2003, 05:41 PM
Apparently, it's okay to use guns in Hollywood, because it's not "real life."
No, it's ok because they are members of the elite and are exempt from the restrictions they wish to place on the rest of us.
No, it's ok because they are members of the elite and are exempt from the restrictions they wish to place on the rest of us.
Johnpl
February 8, 2003, 07:51 AM
It's the same lack of character that allows them to wring their hands and complain and rail on and on about the spread of AIDS and the risks of sexual promiscuity, but at the same time, play roles that run contrary to these posturings and their "strongly held beliefs."
HaveGun
February 8, 2003, 12:38 PM
Watch what you say about Tussy. He is as straight as an arrow.
Maybe you were refering to some other gunsmith or the gun prop man on the movie set.
Maybe you were refering to some other gunsmith or the gun prop man on the movie set.
Beorn
February 8, 2003, 01:59 PM
I met Tussy at an Orange County Gun Show a few months back. He seemed to be a really nice fella. Had some examples of his work, and I was truly impressed.
I thought he was a good guy, but I only spoke to him for maybe five minutes or so. Just the same, he made a favorable impression on me.
I thought he was a good guy, but I only spoke to him for maybe five minutes or so. Just the same, he made a favorable impression on me.
goon
February 8, 2003, 08:44 PM
Does anyone have a pic of this handgun?
Could it be one of those Arcus HP knock-offs with the finger rest on the triggerguard?
As far as Seagal, who gives a turkey?
I've read everything from
"I saw the guy at a range in San Diego and he couldn't hit the ground if he fell on it" to "He is firm in his belief of the right to keep and bear arms" to "he beats his wife" to "he is just another anti-gun celebrity who uses guns in his movies and is a hypocrite".
Personally, I have never met the man, so I am not prepared to pass judgement on him.
Could it be one of those Arcus HP knock-offs with the finger rest on the triggerguard?
As far as Seagal, who gives a turkey?
I've read everything from
"I saw the guy at a range in San Diego and he couldn't hit the ground if he fell on it" to "He is firm in his belief of the right to keep and bear arms" to "he beats his wife" to "he is just another anti-gun celebrity who uses guns in his movies and is a hypocrite".
Personally, I have never met the man, so I am not prepared to pass judgement on him.
Hkmp5sd
February 8, 2003, 08:56 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007JZUP.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Beorn
February 8, 2003, 09:29 PM
Thank you HKmp5sd, now that I have seen the gun, I am ready to give my considered opinion (really not worth much, but maybe I'm right on this one...;) )
It looks like a Ruger P90 to me. They put a suppressor on it and there you go. Now, I'm not sure, but if I had to guess (which I am doing right now), I'd say the Ruger...
Whatcha think?
It looks like a Ruger P90 to me. They put a suppressor on it and there you go. Now, I'm not sure, but if I had to guess (which I am doing right now), I'd say the Ruger...
Whatcha think?
Hkmp5sd
February 8, 2003, 10:24 PM
I don't think it's a P90. On Segal's gun, the safety is mounted on the frame, not the slide. It also has a disassembly latch like the Beretta 92.
Beorn
February 9, 2003, 01:06 AM
True, and the P90 doesn't have serrations on the slide, fore OR rear...
It was worth a try.
It was worth a try.
Archer
February 9, 2003, 01:31 AM
Well, at least his finger's in an appropriate place in the picture on the DVD cover...
VictorLouis
February 10, 2003, 01:02 PM
The artist's rendering is pretty close to the actual pistol. As you can see, they used an appropriately sized 'can'. I can't believe that nobody's got my question nailed yet.:eek: :confused:
Correia
February 10, 2003, 02:48 PM
www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/1300/1375.htm
It appears to be a modified French MAB. The picture above is not exactly what I was looking for but as close as I can find. I have seen MABs with 4 inch barrels. Now put front serrations on the gun. There you go.
It appears to be a modified French MAB. The picture above is not exactly what I was looking for but as close as I can find. I have seen MABs with 4 inch barrels. Now put front serrations on the gun. There you go.
PeacefulWarrior
February 10, 2003, 05:01 PM
Steven Segal=WANNABE
Wilhelm
February 10, 2003, 06:26 PM
I watched Executive Decision the other day (Segals best roll to date) and he totally covers the back of another SEALs head with his MP-5. That was completly disapointing, he usually has better weapon handling abilities.
Wilhelm
Wilhelm
Triad
February 10, 2003, 08:04 PM
(Segals best roll to date)
Didn't he get killed in the first 15 minutes or so?
Didn't he get killed in the first 15 minutes or so?
Wilhelm
February 10, 2003, 11:09 PM
Didn't he get killed in the first 15 minutes or so?
:D
Wilhelm
:D
Wilhelm
Kahr carrier
February 11, 2003, 12:21 AM
Did this movie just come out?? Havent heard about it yet.:confused:
Hkmp5sd
February 11, 2003, 12:49 AM
I think it was a straight to DVD that was just released. Guess Segal doesn't have enough box office draw for the theaters.
dsk
February 11, 2003, 02:22 AM
:D
Wilhelm
Be nice, now. Pot-bellied wannabe wife-beating actors have feelings too.
Wilhelm
Be nice, now. Pot-bellied wannabe wife-beating actors have feelings too.
VictorLouis
February 11, 2003, 11:11 AM
I'm wondering if this is some Hollywood prop guy's exclusive creation.:confused:
VictorLouis
February 12, 2003, 10:42 AM
Summary: In courtroom testimony Steven Seagal says he has a New York
City carry permit and always carries a gun in that city.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/12/nyregion/12SEAG.html
City carry permit and always carries a gun in that city.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/12/nyregion/12SEAG.html
Beorn
February 12, 2003, 11:06 AM
There was a time when Seagal was a shining example of Aikido and cross teaching with other styles.
Never confuse an excellent martial artist with an excellent human being.
And just because older martial artists like Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, Chuck Norris and the like have either kept themselves in shape or actually gotten more fit as they age doesn't mean all older martial artists do it.
Afterall, the founder of Aikido looked alarmingly like Yoda in his old age, but nobody could move him if he chose not to move. Yeah, I guess a lot like Yoda.
"Gut matters not. Judge me by my gut do you? And well you should not, for my ally, is the .45.":D
Never confuse an excellent martial artist with an excellent human being.
And just because older martial artists like Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, Chuck Norris and the like have either kept themselves in shape or actually gotten more fit as they age doesn't mean all older martial artists do it.
Afterall, the founder of Aikido looked alarmingly like Yoda in his old age, but nobody could move him if he chose not to move. Yeah, I guess a lot like Yoda.
"Gut matters not. Judge me by my gut do you? And well you should not, for my ally, is the .45.":D
2xTap
February 13, 2003, 04:11 AM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but from the poster it appears to be a newer version of the Polish MAG 95 9mm. Pics below:
http://www.dalvar.net/mag95.jpg
Here's an pic of an older model without the front serrations:
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/foreign/hem2.passagen.se/dadkri/Pictures/Mag-95_1.gif
2xTap
http://www.dalvar.net/mag95.jpg
Here's an pic of an older model without the front serrations:
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/foreign/hem2.passagen.se/dadkri/Pictures/Mag-95_1.gif
2xTap
VictorLouis
February 13, 2003, 11:27 AM
That makes sense, strangely, as the character's father in the film was a long-standing ambassador to Poland.
riverdog
February 13, 2003, 03:35 PM
No longer close to his gunsmith since he was caught freebasing on a set of Segal's movies. That's a fairly low rent remark to just throw out. Do you have anything to back it up? Thought not. Is it libel or slander when you make a remark like that in print/public. I always get libel/slander confused.I didn't use any names did I? That is a BS cop-out.
I met Terry at the Del Mar show this past weekend, he's real busy; from what I gathered he's still in contact with Segal. If you find a copy of the latest (Mar 2003) G&A, Wiley Clapp has a five page article on two pistols(prototypes?) Tussey did for Kimber. Good article, great gunsmith.
I met Terry at the Del Mar show this past weekend, he's real busy; from what I gathered he's still in contact with Segal. If you find a copy of the latest (Mar 2003) G&A, Wiley Clapp has a five page article on two pistols(prototypes?) Tussey did for Kimber. Good article, great gunsmith.
2xTap
February 14, 2003, 02:14 AM
VictorLouis,
You're welcome.
2xTap
You're welcome.
2xTap
Mannlicher
February 15, 2003, 04:09 PM
Segal is a pathetic excuse for a man. He epitomizes the smoke and mirrors of Hollywood. In reading about his intimidation by mafia types, and seeing how the POS, (Mr. "I demand respect"), showed his DISRESPECT for the US Senate when he appeard in jeans and some twink chink jacket................. well, I have had it with him. He is in no way a man, and in no way an American.
Just my opinion of course, others may vary in theirs.
Just my opinion of course, others may vary in theirs.
LiquidTension
February 16, 2003, 11:45 PM
Why is the front sight post right above the chamber in that poster? At first I thought it was to get the sights above the silencer can, but looking closely it still doesn't look like they clear it. Pic is kinda blurry though....
Hkmp5sd
February 17, 2003, 12:15 AM
The front sight only appears there in the poster. In the movie, it is in the normal position.
Pylon
February 18, 2004, 08:28 PM
Ya know, i will never understand why Segal was even placed in the movie Executive Decision? I mean, his name was even on the cover as if he was a main charecter.
He barely had a part in the movie. He dies so early on its retarded. And i know this is a gun forum an all, but i wanna see Segal going back to his roots and doing what he does best.
Breaking arms, legs, backs, necks, toes, fingers, faces, ribs, shins, did i leave anything out?
I've never watched Segal for his guns, i've always liked his fighting. His movie Marked for Death was my favorite. Ohh those sounds of elbows breaking were pleasent weren't they? lol
He barely had a part in the movie. He dies so early on its retarded. And i know this is a gun forum an all, but i wanna see Segal going back to his roots and doing what he does best.
Breaking arms, legs, backs, necks, toes, fingers, faces, ribs, shins, did i leave anything out?
I've never watched Segal for his guns, i've always liked his fighting. His movie Marked for Death was my favorite. Ohh those sounds of elbows breaking were pleasent weren't they? lol
atek3
February 18, 2004, 08:50 PM
showed his DISRESPECT for the US Senate when he appeard in jeans and some twink chink jacket
Disrespect for the bunch of slime-ball rights-abrogating money-stealing politicians also known as senators? :puke:
Give me a break.
atek3
Oh ya, to remain on topic, Seagal's a wife beater? That's lame.
Disrespect for the bunch of slime-ball rights-abrogating money-stealing politicians also known as senators? :puke:
Give me a break.
atek3
Oh ya, to remain on topic, Seagal's a wife beater? That's lame.
Black Majik
February 18, 2004, 11:47 PM
I hear he's not too bad of a guitar picker, either.
I've actually heard Steven Segal play the guitar at a "NAM show" (I think that was what it was called) when I was a kid. It was suppose to be a charity guitar show of some sort, had a silent auction and a other guitarists such as Bonnie Rait play onstage.
I must say, Steven Segal is a pretty fine guitar player.
I've actually heard Steven Segal play the guitar at a "NAM show" (I think that was what it was called) when I was a kid. It was suppose to be a charity guitar show of some sort, had a silent auction and a other guitarists such as Bonnie Rait play onstage.
I must say, Steven Segal is a pretty fine guitar player.
BluesBear
February 20, 2004, 09:16 AM
It's NAMM (National Association of Musical Merchants)
Segal is a pretty good guitarist. And a damn fine shooter. I have seen him do both up close and personal.
I have never seen any proof that he was a wife beater. In fact if someone said that to my face I'd be tempted to say Liar to theirs. But then that wouldn't be taking the high road would it.
But then several times during this thread I had to check the URL to make sure where I was.
Segal is a pretty good guitarist. And a damn fine shooter. I have seen him do both up close and personal.
I have never seen any proof that he was a wife beater. In fact if someone said that to my face I'd be tempted to say Liar to theirs. But then that wouldn't be taking the high road would it.
But then several times during this thread I had to check the URL to make sure where I was.
Aikibiker
February 20, 2004, 11:43 AM
If Segal was a wife beater with a record would he be able to pass a NICS check to buy one of those expensive custom .45's?
All we have to go on here is hollywood rumors. Do you believe every negative thing an ex-spouse tells you about their former husband/wife? Do you believe anything you here from those twits in hollywood? If so why do you own those evil nasty guns?
Imagine you were at a table with multiple people sitting across from you who you believed to be armed, BUT those people did not have a reason to kill you (it is hard to extort money from a corpse). In fact they have a vested interest in your walking out of that place alive so you can bring them money.
Would you A: Pull out your gun if you had it and start a gun/kungfu fight?
Would you B: Say whatever they wanted to hear and then go to the cops after you left?
If you answered A you are an idiot. Segal was in that situation and he handled it with intelligence and tact. Then instead of rolling over for the mob like the wimp you imply him to be, he went to the cops like a man. You do realize the mafia still likes to kill people that testify against them don't you?
All we have to go on here is hollywood rumors. Do you believe every negative thing an ex-spouse tells you about their former husband/wife? Do you believe anything you here from those twits in hollywood? If so why do you own those evil nasty guns?
Imagine you were at a table with multiple people sitting across from you who you believed to be armed, BUT those people did not have a reason to kill you (it is hard to extort money from a corpse). In fact they have a vested interest in your walking out of that place alive so you can bring them money.
Would you A: Pull out your gun if you had it and start a gun/kungfu fight?
Would you B: Say whatever they wanted to hear and then go to the cops after you left?
If you answered A you are an idiot. Segal was in that situation and he handled it with intelligence and tact. Then instead of rolling over for the mob like the wimp you imply him to be, he went to the cops like a man. You do realize the mafia still likes to kill people that testify against them don't you?
Checkman
February 20, 2004, 01:09 PM
I'm going to be the Devil's Advocate here. It's possible that Segal was initally charged with Domestic Battery, but his attorney plea bargained it down to Disturbing the Peace. In which case it isn't domestic violence and he can still own firearms. In Idaho (where gunownership is a serious thing indeed) this is a common occurance. I suppose that if I was unethical and didn't mind putting my job at risk (I'm talking as a law enforcement employee here) I could run a criminal history check on Mr. Segal.
Personally I like being a good cop and I have a family to support. So Mr. Segal's background will have to remain one of mystery. Anyway all these rumors add to his "aura" and give him free publicity - after all look at all the postings on this thread. :cool:
Personally I like being a good cop and I have a family to support. So Mr. Segal's background will have to remain one of mystery. Anyway all these rumors add to his "aura" and give him free publicity - after all look at all the postings on this thread. :cool:
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