What's a good holster for non belted pants


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gym
March 8, 2014, 12:30 PM
After 30 yrs of Back problems, I really can't wear a belt anymore, as it cuts into the disks. Since I carried for 4 decades plus, I have used everything from Shoulder rigs to Mexican cross draw, ankle, OWB, IWB and most everything in between.
Now I resorted to pocket carry, but the problem with that is the amount of rounds my pocket guns will hold. PM-9 , XDS, Shield etc. In order to carry a midsize gun I need something like a paddle holster, "which work with non belted pants", nylon gym pants, etc. But I don't see that many for guns like the mid size guns I would like to carry.
At this point I would buy the gun to fit the holster, as there are a multitude of hi capacity 9mm guns that will fit the bill, from the CZ to the Glocks and every gun maker in between. I just don't want to buy an expensive gun, and be stuck not being able to find a holster that I can use with it, I may have to go back to a shoulder rig, even though it's too hot in FL for their use without a cover shirt on top of a tee shirt.
Or the dreaded fanny pack. Which I sometimes use , more as a distraction, while my hand is on my gun in my pocket, if the need ever occurs. Any of you guys with severe back problems find the magic holster?

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Old Fuff
March 8, 2014, 01:13 PM
A shoulder holster is one answer, but I suspect you've tried that.

How about suspenders to hold up your pants, and a paddle holster of your choice for whatever gun you want to carry?

Joke & Dagger
March 8, 2014, 01:15 PM
These Nate Squared holsters may be what you are looking for. I have two i wear with my athletic pants here in Florida, including a Glock 26. I love these.

https://www.n82tactical.com/holster-options

hso
March 8, 2014, 01:15 PM
Can you wear a loosely fitting belt if held up with suspenders?

David E
March 8, 2014, 01:34 PM
A shoulder holster is one answer, but I suspect you've tried that.

How about suspenders to hold up your pants, and a paddle holster of your choice for whatever gun you want to carry?
This

rcmodel
March 8, 2014, 01:45 PM
I agree a belt & suspenders.
Then wear whatever holster you want.

IMO: If you can't wear a tight belt?
You can't wear a fanny-pack with a gun tugging on it either.

rc

gym
March 8, 2014, 08:32 PM
Ok that's worth a shot, Joke, will give it a try. The Fanny pak works best because it's not a solid hard piece of leather digging into the disk, It conforms more with the body and you can still move it up or down unlike a belt, "if it starts to dig in". I have tried a dozen different fanny packs over the years, the nylon ones seem to be most comfortable.
But that tactical holster looks interesting. I have Remora's and "sticky" also, but they can easily fall through loose pants, and the versa carry works, but not on larger guns with loose fitting garments, it works on my PM9 and XDS, I wouldn't try it on a chambered glock though. I even tried those custom carry slacks in the cargo material, but they can be a bit heavy for Florida, plus you still need a belt. The web type belt worked for a couple hours then started to hurt. I like the video of that holster that Joke put up, I may try one of those on the 26. Thanks for the ideas, I can't really wear suspenders down here, with tee shirts, but perhaps for going out it may be an option.

TRX
March 8, 2014, 08:40 PM
I'm in pretty much the same situation. I carry with an ankle holster all the time, shoulder holster when weather is cool enough for an overshirt.

A few months ago I became one of "them" and bought some suspenders so I don't have to walk around with one hand holding my pants up. You might be able to do an appendix carry with suspenders, but conventional IWB/OWB isn't going to work without some kind of a Sam Browne crossover belt.

Centurian22
March 8, 2014, 09:24 PM
Check out the Remora holsters. I don't own one but know someone who swears by them now and carrys every day with nothing else.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/02/ralph/gear-review-remora-“no-clip”-holster/

Hope this helps.

gym
March 8, 2014, 11:39 PM
Yes I posted that I have several

Skribs
March 9, 2014, 03:56 AM
I had the opposite problem with Remora. Go too tight, and the gun will pop out the top. Too loose, and it falls through. I found them to be way too finicky for me to trust them.

I would have to say suspenders are probably the way to go. With the weight of the handgun, holster, and ammo, if you don't have a belt it's going to really drag one side of your pants down. With that said, if "paddle holster" is the answer, you can find one for just about any pistol you can name. So I wouldn't worry about getting a gun and not being able to find a paddle holster for it.

Centurian22
March 9, 2014, 03:58 AM
Oops sorry. Missed that one.

rayban
March 9, 2014, 08:50 AM
Another vote for suspenders.....I also have chronic back problems and some days I can't even button my jeans.....if the belt is supporting enough you can fit it very loosely around you and let the suspenders hold it up.
I've found it to be so comfortable, I use them even on "good days" when I know I'll be carrying all day.
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http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb277/RGleather/misc059_zpse627d4de.jpg (http://s211.photobucket.com/user/RGleather/media/misc059_zpse627d4de.jpg.html)

TRX
March 9, 2014, 11:01 AM
You can also run the suspenders against your skin and blouse your shirt outside your pants.

I tucked my shirt in the first time I wore suspenders, and promptly filled my pants with sawdust while cutting lumber... I hadn't worn a tucked shirt since ROTC in high school.

Drail
March 9, 2014, 07:18 PM
Rayban, THAT is a mighty fine rig you have. I use the same method but yours is much more "handsome".

kbbailey
March 10, 2014, 01:21 PM
I have a Woolrich coat from the NRAstore with elastic "holsters" sewn in. I'm not crazy about the gun not being 'on my person'.....but it works good for some situations in the winter. It is well made and has magazine loops sewn in too.

I bet you have already considered this approach though.

btw...were the back problems created by the 40yrs of carry??

Teachu2
March 10, 2014, 02:40 PM
Maybe a holster shirt?

http://www.lapolicegear.com/truspec-ss-holstershirt.html?Color/Size=1226004%3A%20Black%20-%20Medium&gclid=CLSIi-rOiL0CFc9AMgodZ04ALw

http://tacticalgear.com/mens-511-holster-shirts/white?utm_source=gs&utm_medium=sce&gclid=CKaL58jPiL0CFQ5gMgodjRsAiA

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