I'm set on a Kahr cm9


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xxxleafybugxxx
March 10, 2014, 10:57 AM
Reviews do it all for me.
The issue with the nano fte on cheap ammo turns me off.
I see few similar reviews on the cm9.
my only issue with the cm9 is the silver slide.
is there a way to refinish the slide to give it an all black look?

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silicosys4
March 10, 2014, 11:17 AM
I suggest you dig a little deeper into kahr quality.

xxxleafybugxxx
March 10, 2014, 11:23 AM
Interesting you say that. I've dug deep. I like the nano but all research told me the cm9 was Better than the beretta

Water-Man
March 10, 2014, 11:38 AM
Does being better than Beretta make it good?

xxxleafybugxxx
March 10, 2014, 11:45 AM
Let me ask you this. What makes it bad? Everything I've heard about this handgun has been positive

Fishbed77
March 10, 2014, 11:48 AM
You've chosen well.

My CM9 has been 100% reliable through thousands of rounds now and is a surprisingly soft shooter for such a small 9mm.

If you "you dig a little deeper into Kahr quality", you'll find that almost all issues that folks report involve .40S&W and .45ACP pistols. The 9mm Kahr pistols (PM9, CM9, MK9, CW9, etc.) are by-in-large good-to-go.

utbrowningman
March 10, 2014, 11:52 AM
My CW9 has been flawless with exception to chambering the first round of steel cases. Most likely due to slingshoting and not using the slide release. My wife may take over the CW9 in which case I will get a CW45.

silicosys4
March 10, 2014, 12:17 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Kahr+cm9+issues

Just a few from the first page of that search

https://www.thebangswitch.com/flaw-in-the-kahr-cm9/

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=671367

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive-carry-guns/136954-another-kahr-cm9-problem-right-out-box.html

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11817

Short story version:
2 of 3 of my Kahrs are traded away, thank god. The last one, a cw40, still has a trip back to Kahr to fix multiple issues before I can trade it away with a clear conscience.
All three...thats right, three out of three of my polymer framed Kahrs were bad. This included a pm9. Lemons. Constant failures to feed was the BEST the guns would do. My cw40 likes to dump its mag on recoil EVERY SINGLE TIME the trigger is pulled. Soon as I can get Kahr to honor their warranty its getting fixed then its gone and I will never look twice at another Kahr.

Water-Man
March 10, 2014, 12:40 PM
I suggest the OP spends some time on the Kahr Forum. You won't have to spend alot of time to find out the problems the CM9 has, especially the follower.

Every gun manufacturer has its problems, some more than others. Kahr is on the more side. I find it ludicrous that, in this day and age, any gun manufacturer wants us to shoot a couple of hundred rounds off to break the pistol in.

wally
March 10, 2014, 12:49 PM
Before you buy, ask yourself, would you still be happy if they demanded you pay shipping with no promise of repair for a broken front frame rail like this on a less than three year old pistol?

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=194173&d=1390929171

Jlr2267
March 10, 2014, 01:26 PM
I have to agree with the nay-sayers on this one. The downside with Kahr, in my experience, is that if/when you need warranty or customer service, it is a nightmare. Kahr makes some good pistols, but they send out too many bad ones, and then drag their feet in making things right. In this day of excellent customer service from companies like <fill in the blank>, why deal with that attitude?

I bought a new CW380 which would not feed 2 consecutive rounds...even after 300 break-in rounds ($120 in ammo). I emailed customer support the same day (2weeks ago now) and they never responded. I called 3 times leaving a message (after waiting on hold for 10 min) and not a single call has been returned. I finally did get a live person who ask that I return the gun to them. I've heard nothing from them since I shipped it.

xxxleafybugxxx
March 10, 2014, 02:03 PM
So do you guys think I'd be better with a nano or lc9?

Jlr2267
March 10, 2014, 02:14 PM
To be fair, I did have a CM9 that was a really nice shooter after break-in. It's just such a crapshoot with Kahr these days that I'm no longer willing to gamble.

If I wanted an inexpensive subcompact 9, I'd be looking at the M&P Shield...but there lots of good options, 2 of which you have already listed here.

Personally, I did not like the trigger on the LC9...you might like it. Shoot all you can then decide.

heeler
March 10, 2014, 02:26 PM
Don't let three or four guys sway you from the Kahr.
My PM9 has been 100 per cent flawless.
Accurate too.

Jlr2267
March 10, 2014, 02:52 PM
Don't let three or four guys sway you from the Kahr.
My PM9 has been 100 per cent flawless.
Accurate too.

Unfortunately, it is more than 3 or 4 guys. Just visit the Kahr forums and read up on some of the issues and/or lack of customer support.

Kahr has gone downhill in recent years.

critter
March 10, 2014, 03:14 PM
Mine is an MK9. Shot a LOT with NEVER a problem of ANY KIND. Accurate, easy to control and absolutely THE VERY BEST DA trigger on anything I've ever shot.

stogiegila
March 10, 2014, 03:28 PM
Visit the Kahr forum and read through the complaints and also the stickies on cleaning and inspection prior to going to the range.

1. Clean them thoroughly prior to shooting (use BrakeCleaner)
2. Inspect follower and ramp to ensure there is proper clearing, if they hit it has to go back to Kahr
3. Inspect magazines to clean and ensure springs are in correctly
4. Load round using slide stop and not slingshot (at least until broken in)

After I did this I took it to the range and the only problems I had were occassional FTF with the 7 round extended mag. Since I only use this mag for range use I don't care. I only carry with the standard 6 round mag and have not had any problems with 600 rounds.

I found the amount of negative press on the Kahrs troubling. However, mine has been trouble free (other than the 7 round mag). It has a very smooth nicely weighted trigger albeit a long travel especially for such a small framed gun.

Believe it or not the Kahr is the most accurate gun i've shot next to the Walther PPK. And the recoil for a small 9mm is not a problem at all.

It is so small and lite that you will forget you are carrying it and it will most definitely fit in a pocket.

Water-Man
March 10, 2014, 03:29 PM
xxxleafybugxxx,

I think a better choice would be the M&P Shield.

Good luck with your decision.

Beentown
March 10, 2014, 03:38 PM
I have had them all and multiples of many. The Kahrs are the best carry pistol for me. No issue with the five I have owned/own. Four friends now carry them after trying mine.

One friend did have a follower break...kahr replaced it.

I would be careful of the naysayers without first hand experience. If you went by all bad info Glocks are unreliable and explode often...

Kahrs are such a popular carry pistol and the amount of complaints are miniscule compared to the thousands of satisfied owners.

Armybrat
March 10, 2014, 03:54 PM
My PM9 and CW45 have been trouble-free.

TarDevil
March 10, 2014, 03:57 PM
leafybug, there are a lot of satisfied Kahr owners. There are, apparently, some not so satisfied. As with all gun manufacturers, you'll get the bad one here and there. As I mentioned in your previous thread, I'm staying away from Kahr presently not only because of a recent rash of troublesome threads, but there's some indication that their Customer Service isn't up to some of the other gun makers. Just a personal choice and my caution may be unwarranted. But in this market, there are plenty of choices.

340PD
March 10, 2014, 05:01 PM
It is pretty common to fine the least satisfied people are the first to chime in.
Kahr makes great products. My PM9 works just fine and is carried and shot on a regular basis.

Kahr is moving out of the gulag called NY state so I would expect slower responses to inquiries.

I hear there are different shaped followers in the offing.

If you want all black, look into a PM9. Used they run under $500.
Example, you may have to register to see pricing, but it is currently @ $475 pre owned
http://www.arnzenarms.com/product/24761

Fishbed77
March 10, 2014, 05:02 PM
So do you guys think I'd be better with a nano or lc9?

I have a CM9 and my brother has an LC9. Both have been extremely reliable, but the Kahr is far and away the better shooter. The LC9 has a terrible trigger (overly long, inconsistent, and with a weird geometry that causes anyone with medium or long fingers to have to contort their trigger finger somewhat awkwardly to fully depress the trigger.) The Kark trigger is long, but extremely smooth and consistent. Despite the slightly smaller size, the CM9 is the softer shooter. The Kahr is easier to field strip and clean, if that matters to you.

The S&W Shield is a fine pistol, but keep in mind that it has had its issues as well, including a recall. It's also a bit larger than the CM9. I personally don't care for the manual safety of the S&W Shield, as I feel manual safeties are less than ideal on this type of pistol. There are those that say "you don't have to use the safety if you don't want to," but you should make it part of your drill to sweep that safety every time you draw, lest Murphy creep up on you (and this goes for all firearms with manual safeties).

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xxxleafybugxxx
March 10, 2014, 05:12 PM
To me the nano is the most asthetically pleasing of the pocket 9's. Especially with the dark earth color

wally
March 10, 2014, 06:36 PM
Don't let three or four guys sway you from the Kahr.
My PM9 has been 100 per cent flawless.
Accurate too.

Mine was too until the frame rail broke, how would you feel if they aren't there to take care of you if yours broke?

If you will be OK with that, then Kahr or EAA guns can be wonderful.

Esoxchaser
March 10, 2014, 06:50 PM
The three PM series Kahrs I am intimately familiar with 2 9mm and a .40 all had the same issue.
Wouldn't feed off the 7 rd extended mag.
Kahrs answer?
Put tape on the back of the poorly fitting mags to make them not tip forward in the magwell.
Screw Kahr.

C0untZer0
March 10, 2014, 07:01 PM
Here are some similarly sized pistols:

Rohrbaugh R9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.9 in
Length: 5.2 in
Height: 3.7 in
Slide Width: .82 in
Width at thickest part of pistol: .95 in
Weight: 13.5 oz, magazine 1.6 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds

Boberg XR9-S (Shorty)
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.35 in
Length: 5.1 in
Height: 4.2 in
Width: .96 in
Weight: 17.5 oz
Capacity: 7+1 Rounds

Kahr MK9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.3 in
Height: 4.0 in
Slide Width: .90 in
Width at slide stop: 1.0 in
Weight: Pistol 22.1 oz, Magazine 1.9 oz
Capacity: 6+1

Kahr PM9 / CM9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.42 in
Height: 4.0 in
Slide Width: .90 in
Width at slide stop: 1.0 in
Weight: Pistol 14 oz, Magazine 1.9 oz
Capacity: 6+1

Kimber Solo
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.7 in
Length: 5.5 in
Height: 3.9 in
Width: 1.2 in
Weight: 17 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds

SIG SAUER P290
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.9 in
Length: 5.5 in
Height: 3.9 in
Width: 0.9 in - 1.1" w/slide catch (roughly the same width as MK9, Kahr lists the width of the slide only)
Weight: 20.5 oz w/magazine
Capacity: 6+1

Diamondback DB9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.60 in
Height: 4.0 in
Width: 0.80 in
Weight: 11 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds

Kel Tec PF-11
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.6 in
Height: 4.3 in
Width: 1.0 in
Weight: 14 oz
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds

Beretta Nano
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.07 in
Length: 5.63 in
Height: 4.17 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 17.67 oz
Capacity: 6+1

SCCY CPX-2
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.7 in
Height: 4.0 in (without mag extensions)
Width: 1.0 in
Weight: 15.0 oz
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds

Kel Tec PF-9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.87 in
Height: 4.3 in
Width: .88 in
Weight: 12.7 oz
Capacity: 7+1 Rounds

SIG SAUER P938
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.0 in
Length: 5.9 in
Height: 3.9 in (not counting magazine w/extension)
Width: 1.1 in
Weight: 16.0 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds

Ruger LC9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.12 in
Length: 6.0 in
Height: 4.5 in
Slide Width: .90in
Weight: 17.10 oz
Capacity: 7+1

fxstchewy
March 10, 2014, 08:14 PM
I have about 300 rounds through my CM9 and so far i am impressed with it, maybe i just got a good one but i can't say anything bad about it.

kellmark
March 11, 2014, 06:25 AM
While I like my Nano and have had no issues with it, another small 9mm to look at would be Sigs' P290RS. It is also small and pocketable and has been redesigned with restrike capability. I am seriously thinking of adding one of those. This redesigned version of the pistol has good reviews.

Again, for those who like the Kahrs, that's ok for them, but I think that I will pass, with all of their issues recently.

heeler
March 11, 2014, 08:29 AM
Wally,although I would find no joy in having to pay to ship as I had to do that very thing with my Diamondback 380 once.
My take on your particular situation is perhaps Kahr is thinking you used some terrible reloads.
But one thing is certain posting the picture of your broken gun is not going to get it fixed.
Send it back and chances are you will get it repaired or replaced.
I certainly would not hesitate to spend $50 to get my $400+ dollar pistol repaired or replaced.

JimC
March 11, 2014, 08:33 AM
While I don't wish to "jinx" myself, I have to admit, the 7 rd. mag. that came with my PM9 has functioned 100% from day one. I will admit though, it gets less use than my 6 rd. mags. because I use it for the range only.

heeler
March 11, 2014, 08:38 AM
There are a few of the seven round magazines that do work.
But most are promblematic.
Oddly enough if I only load six rounds in mine it works perfectly.
Mine is now employed as a paperweight on my computer table.

guyfromohio
March 11, 2014, 08:47 AM
Look at a PPS from Walther.

340PD
March 11, 2014, 09:21 AM
I just read a very nice post praising the Remington R51 over on the Kahrtalk forum. I would definitely add that gun to the mix of small DA semi's before I laid down my money on a carry gun.

wally
March 11, 2014, 11:54 AM
Wally,although I would find no joy in having to pay to ship as I had to do that very thing with my Diamondback 380 once.
My take on your particular situation is perhaps Kahr is thinking you used some terrible reloads.
But one thing is certain posting the picture of your broken gun is not going to get it fixed.


They have not answered any of my Emails. I will not trust my life to a gun the manufacturer will not stand behind. I will not throw good money after bad.

Dumping Kahr for S&W Sheild.

If you are happy with a gun from a company that won't stand behind their frame, go for it.

You can view this as a loss, I view it as a lesson learned. I was hot to get a CW380 and saw one at a gun show the weekend I after I contacted Kahr via their website. Decided to wait and see how the tech support played out when there was a serious need. Glad I waited, no longer interested in the CW380.

Jlr2267
March 11, 2014, 12:07 PM
They have not answered any of my Emails. I will not trust my life to a gun the manufacturer will not stand behind. I will not throw good money after bad.

Dumping Kahr for S&W Sheild.

If you are happy with a gun from a company that won't stand behind their frame, go for it.

You can view this as a loss, I view it as a lesson learned. I was hot to get a CW380 and saw one at a gun show the weekend I after I contacted Kahr via their website. Decided to wait and see how the tech support played out when there was a serious need. Glad I waited, no longer interested in the CW380.

I'm with you on this one. Their CS is the absolute worst I have ever experienced with *any* company.

Ignoring emails/voicemails from customers is not the mark of a reputable manufacturer.

If I ever get mine back from Kahr, I think I will sell it andmove on. I have an LCP that is 100% reliable so I don't need the headache.

jbrown50
March 11, 2014, 12:47 PM
I own a PM9 and a CM9. They both work fine after break-in.

I've found the main issue with 9mm Kahrs is the magazines. The right front skirt of the magazine follower tends to drag against the magazine catch when going upward. An easy fix for it is to remove the follower and file the right edge of the skirt down a little bit until it no longer drags against the catch.

You disassemble the gun and the magazine, insert the mag into the well, put the follower on top of the spring and move it up and down past the catch and observe how it drags against the latch at it's skirt. You simply file the right front edge of the skirt down until the follower slides freely up and down the magazine while it'd inserted in the well.

Viola....no more having to use the slide release to load the first round into the chamber. Now you can rack the first round in by pulling and releasing the slide without the round hanging up on the feed ramp.

It's so simple I don't know why Kahr doesn't have their magazine producer fix it for them:rolleyes:

chris in va
March 11, 2014, 01:16 PM
My K9 has been great, no malfunctions. However I was a bit surprised when the rear sight came loose after the first 100 rounds. At some point I will have a local gunsmith stake it back in place.

utbrowningman
March 11, 2014, 01:51 PM
Hit or miss as with any firearm. Although the CS for Kahr appears to be in need of improvement. Hopefully I will never need it. As far as the magazine problem, I have two of the 7-round and have never experienced a problem with them. In 1,000 rounds, I have never had a FTF or FTE and I purchased my CW9 new. The only problem as I stated earlier was failure to chamber the first round of steel case but that may be attributed to sling-shoting the slide and not using the slide release.

heeler
March 11, 2014, 01:59 PM
Well I certainly would be pretty unhappy with a company that would not return my calls or e-mails.
But if you would send the gun back Wally and get it repaired or replaced you could then just turn around and sell it just like I did my Diamondback.
That's the smart move financially.
At that point you can then scratch Kahr off your list.
The money in my hand would make me feel better than holding a broken gun anyday.

wally
March 11, 2014, 02:33 PM
I would never fix it with the intension of selling it immediately afterwards sticking the buyer with a no warranty pistol who's frame is fundamentally suspect, not that Kahr's warranty is worth much -- same class service as EAA.

Holding the broken gun quickly makes the point to others asking my advice on what to buy, that here is at least one to avoid unless you think having to pay to fix this severe a failure is reasonable.

gym
March 11, 2014, 02:43 PM
Excellent guns, you will find people who like and dislike any gun you post here, that's the way forums are, The majority of professionals who carry these guns as backup or off duty guns, love them, or they wouldn't be carrying them. If you ask for opinions expect to get just that. Kahr has been growing lately by leaps and bounds, they must be doing something right, All gun types break on occasion, show me a gun that never had a problem, and I will show you a gun that wasn't used.

silicosys4
March 11, 2014, 04:25 PM
Excellent guns, you will find people who like and dislike any gun you post here, that's the way forums are, The majority of professionals who carry these guns as backup or off duty guns, love them, or they wouldn't be carrying them. If you ask for opinions expect to get just that. Kahr has been growing lately by leaps and bounds, they must be doing something right, All gun types break on occasion, show me a gun that never had a problem, and I will show you a gun that wasn't used.

Yea, I'd buy that if there weren't so MANY unsatisfied Kahr owners as compared to the amount of them sold.....More than ANY glock i've EVER read about, including .40 Kb's, and how many more glocks have been sold?
Same with Colt...S&W...Sig....etc.
The only other brand that I have seen that compares is Taurus.
For every "I love my Kahr" thread, it seems there is an accompanying "My Kahr sucks" thread....it is literally a one for one it seems.
Look at threads about the Kahrs, notice how many of them are about issues with the guns.
Gun for gun, you have a greater chance of getting a lemon through Kahr than just about anybody else.

"the majority of professionals that carry them love them"
I sure hope so. Why would you carry a gun that you hate?
But what majority of professionals carry them?

I have read more than a few posts from people who say their local gun store won't even carry Kahr because of recurring issues with the guns and refused to carry Taurus for the same reason.
I put Kahr in the same category as Taurus. Great if you have one that works, but don't use your working example to smack down the reality that quality control is an issue and nonworking guns are more frequent than is acceptable.
I have a CW40 that I'll trade away to anyone for their RELIABLE Kahr, if anyone wants to experience Kahr without the benefit of rose colored glasses. An unreliable pm40 and pm9 are already gone, and I was never happier to get rid of a pair of guns.
I know I sure would love to experience this Kahr reliability that people keep touting.

I have spent over $1000 on Kahr pistols, and not gotten a SINGLE working one. I have spent literally HOURS on the internet trying to find solutions for various problems, only to run into many many other people sharing the same problems. By all accounts, Kahr is overdue for at least one recall. If you get a working gun and thats it, you have no reason to research Kahr, try and troubleshoot it, or look into other peoples experiences. You will not have the exposure to the massive amounts of disappointed owners out there, and the various issues people are having. Therefore you might believe that the gun is inherently reliable and there are just a massive amount of whiners gravitating towards Kahr.

In my experiences you just got lucky.

Godsgunman
March 11, 2014, 04:39 PM
Wow, one might think we wandered into a Taurus thread ;). I actually like the Bull by the way.
I've considered Kahr myself multiple times but never have gotten one because of such issues already stated here. Especially for the price you pay for them there are many others to choose from that have better track records.

xxxleafybugxxx
March 11, 2014, 04:51 PM
I do appreciate everyone's input. I may go back to my original and get the beretta nano. Love the way it looks and it's one of the smaller 9s . It appears they fixed their ftf issue with them. Plus I've heard great things about their customer service. Also toying with the idea of the sccy cpx2.

Pukindog12
March 11, 2014, 07:00 PM
I have two Kahrs and both have been flawless (yes, FLAWLESS) through hundreds of rounds each. They are the guns I shoot the most for they are what I carry the most. I trust them implicitly.

Kahr pistols have an awful lot going for them. You might reconsider them. Not stating the Kahr line is for you, just that the Kahr company is not so nearly inept as a few posters make them out to be. I would bet that satisfied owners of Kahr products vastly out number those who have had a bad experience(s). The squeaky wheel does tend to get the most grease.

kellmark
March 11, 2014, 07:14 PM
A couple of more notes on the Nano.

You can get an 8 round magazine for it, or it may come with an 8 round and a 6 round. (I don't think it looks particularly good, but it seems to work fine). But I like the extra capacity option, as you can carry 8+1 if you like. I use it when I carry it in a bag or the car. For pocket carry I use the 6 round, and it fits fine.

It has an option of trijicon night sights which are easy to install. And you have a choice of several laser sights if you want.

It is also a reasonable price. That was another factor. The overall package works for me.

beeenbag
March 11, 2014, 11:01 PM
Same 5 people chime in on every kahr thread, I have seen that broken frame 25 times. Yeah they have had issues, yeah you own a gun that failed. As a whole, kahr satisfies more customers than they let down, if not, they would have gone out of business by now. I owned a flawless running cm9 2 years ago, traded it on a good trade, then missed it so now I own a second flawless running cm9.

Jlr2267
March 11, 2014, 11:07 PM
Same 5 people chime in on every kahr thread, I have seen that broken frame 25 times. Yeah they have had issues, yeah you own a gun that failed. As a whole, kahr satisfies more customers than they let down, if not, they would have gone out of business by now. I owned a flawless running cm9 2 years ago, traded it on a good trade, then missed it so now I own a second flawless running cm9.

Its not about their guns...it's about how they do or do not stand behind them, and how they deal with customers. If you had no problem with your gun, you have no experience in what "the same 5" are referring to.

gym
March 12, 2014, 12:10 AM
They aren't getting responses to their problem because it takes work to get some of these company's to move their butts. Write letters, post it on the BBB website and it will get done.

Papaster
March 12, 2014, 12:16 AM
I have a K9 and my wife has a CW9. We've been very happy with our Kahr pistols. I feel for folks who haven't had the same success we have, but I gladly recommend them to folks looking for concealed carry pistols. Among my group of friends there are another three or four Kahr pistols, not a single one has had any trouble.

OldMan74
March 12, 2014, 12:33 AM
I have owned both the PM9 and the CM9 and had no real problems with either. I gave the CM9 to a friend a little over a year ago who has used it far more than I did and I have heard no complaints. I still own the PM9. Even so I greatly prefer the Kimber Solo CDP which is a smoother and more comfortable gun with much nicer fit and finish and comes with a red laser sight installed.

bdb benzino
March 12, 2014, 12:59 AM
I have owned my flawless CW9 for 3 or more years, and I shoot it really well for a pistol that size. I owned a flawless CW45 for a year and foolishly sold it in a weak moment, I also replaced it 6 months ago with another flawless CW45 and am totally pleased.
That's 3 for 3 that have never even had 1 malfunction at all, I am a believer!

vba
March 13, 2014, 11:59 AM
Well, my cm9 has been flawless with factory ammo and my own lead and HP reloads. It is my summer carry gun.

MainiacBob
March 14, 2014, 10:13 PM
Have a CM9 with about 350 rounds through it. Works flawlessly. Have both kahr 6 and 7 round magazines. I keep it clean and would buy it again in a heartbeat.

psp7304
March 15, 2014, 10:39 AM
I must be lucky. I have close to 3000 rounds through my CM9, both fmj and jhp, without any malfunctions. I am amazed at the accuracy of this little pistol.

Tony k
March 18, 2014, 10:47 PM
I've owned a CW45 since february. It had a problem with rounds hitting the slide stop, causing jams. I called Kahr, was speaking to a live human being within 2 minutes, and had a new slide stop in my mailbox within 4 days.

The other day, I noticed a burr forming on the front of the right front frame rail. Thinking of wally's broken rail pic that he keeps posting on thr:p, I called Kahr. Again, I was speaking to a live human being (same guy, Ian) within about one minute. I explained the burr and why I thought it was developing. I had a free return fed ex label in my email within 5 hours of the call. It is currently in route back to Kahr.

I'm not happy that the gun has problems, but I sure can't complain about their customer service.

I think they are having some QC issues with the CW45, but they are doing a good job of standing behind their product in my experience. I love the way the gun shoots when it's working properly (trigger is smooth!). If the gun comes back reliable, I'll probaly be buying more Kahrs.

No experience with the Nano.

wally
March 19, 2014, 05:58 PM
I have two Kahrs and both have been flawless (yes, FLAWLESS) through hundreds of rounds each. They are the guns I shoot the most for they are what I carry the most. I trust them implicitly.

I was in the same boat, shooting hundreds of rounds a month, until mine broke and now they are not standing behind their product.

If they won't stand behind a frame failure they are to be avoided IMHO, that is the firearm, anything else that breaks or wears out I can fix myself if they or someone else will sell me the parts. I'm fine with paying to replace parts that wear out, but if the frame is considered a "wear item" something is very wrong!

Delford
March 19, 2014, 09:19 PM
I'm not a huge Walther fan but was impressed by the CCP. The Ruger LC9 is a solid choice also.

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