1911: 7 or 8 rd mags?


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cdb1
March 10, 2014, 01:38 PM
I own numerous pistols but have never owned a 1911. My teenage son has been dying for one for a long time so I finally broke down and ordered two from Bud's(so we can shoot together). Caliber is .45. Neither one will be used for SD. I'm going to purchase a couple of extra mags. Both RIA's come with 8 rounders.

My question is this. Are 8 round mags just as reliable as 7 round mags or is there no difference? Also, are Mec-Gar mags pretty decent? I know where I can get a good deal on some.

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Nickb45
March 10, 2014, 01:46 PM
I carry a 7 round wilson mag in the gun, 2 wilson ETM 8rnd mags on my weak side. It's all about finding what works. These guns can be picky sometimes. Chip McCormack (sp?) mags are also good.

Mainsail
March 10, 2014, 01:51 PM
All my eight round mags work 100% and are suitable for SD, however I prefer the seven round ones because I like them to sit flush. Preference only.

cdb1
March 10, 2014, 02:01 PM
I guess I will wait for the guns to come in before I decide on which capacity to get. I have know idea if I will prefer the mag to sit flush like you or whether the not flush 8 rounder will be okay.

Drail
March 10, 2014, 02:26 PM
Magazines that hold 8 rounds and are flush fit have a history of not being as reliable as a flush fit 7 round. Several manufacturers have addressed this problem (the Wilson ETM mag for one) and claimed to have solved the problem of having the springs squashed down hard when loaded with 8 rounds. I have always preferred the 7 round flush mags but I use a lot of Shooting Star 8 rounders and just load seven in them. Never had a problem as long as the springs are changed when they start to weaken. On a carry gun I want the mags to be flush and I feel that 7 rounds are plenty.

jmr40
March 10, 2014, 02:44 PM
Never had a single issue with good 8 round mags made by Wilson or Chip McCormick. I see no downsides to the 8 round mags as long as they are quality.

ew2x4
March 10, 2014, 02:58 PM
I had a full size RIA 1911. It was pretty picky with magazines. It loved 8 rd mec gars though.

vtbluegrass
March 10, 2014, 03:03 PM
Its a question of flush fit or not on 8vs 7rds. Never had an issue with a Mec-Gar magazine in any gun including 1911.

JRH6856
March 10, 2014, 03:20 PM
With 1911 magazines the key is finding what works with your gun and your ammo. The configuration of the lips is important as different lip styles work differently with different bullet shapes./cartridge lengths.

As to capacity, I find 7 rounders more reliable than 8 rounders, though, as noted, there are reliable 8 rounders available—but only if they have the right lips for the ammo being used.

Quentin
March 10, 2014, 03:37 PM
Mec-Gar magazines tend to be among the best for most pistols. I've had great luck using them in my Hi Power, 5906 and P08 Luger. Haven't tried the 1911 yet. I'd sure give one a try if you can get a good deal on them.

I use standard 7-round mags for my Colt Government Model. Most are Colt and GI mags. I do have a Chip McCormick 8-round but tend to load just 7.

JTQ
March 10, 2014, 03:50 PM
I prefer 7 rounders, but I admit I don't have any experience with the new extended tube 8 rounders such as Wilson ETM, Tripp, or CheckMate EXT, or any of the other longer tube models. My 8 round experience is limited to Wilson 47D, McCormick PowerMag and the standard length CheckMate 8 rounders. Those short CheckMate 8 rounders are tough to get 8 in the tube, and pretty tough to seat with a closed slide. CheckMate makes a nice product, but I won't buy any more of those standard length tube 8 rounders from them.

Here are a couple of opinions

The late Stephen A. Camp preferred 7 rounders. http://hipowers-handguns.blogspot.com/2010/11/what-is-best-7-or-8-shot-1911-45-acp.html

Hilton Yam prefers 8 rounders http://www.10-8performance.com/pages/1911-Magazines.html

I think either can work. However, I think the 7 rounders give a bigger window for function, just like a 5" 1911 has a bigger window for proper function than the shorter barreled 1911's.

I like the full size 7 round Wilson 47's. They also have an HD +P version. http://shopwilsoncombat.com/7-Round/products/370/

While I don't care for their short 8 rounder, I'd would buy these 7 rounders from CheckMate. http://www.topgunsupply.com/check-mate-.45acp-7rd-ss-cmf-removable-base-full-size-1911-magazine.html

Deaf Smith
March 10, 2014, 04:38 PM
In both my Colt Combat Commanders the 7 and 8 round Wilson and Chip McCormick mags work fine.... but...

I have heard in sandy climates the 8 rounders sometimes don't push the rounds up due to sand.

But since I don't live near sandy climates I use either ones.

Deaf

cdb1
March 10, 2014, 05:01 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

Fiv3r
March 10, 2014, 05:01 PM
It depends on the gun. My Springfield will sometimes not feed from my 8 round Kimber. My Regent would feed just fine. However, my Springfield will chamber jhp and "ash tray" rounds without a hiccup. My Regent would sometimes choke on steel cased hardball.

I keep a 7 rounder in the gun, another for back up, and use the 8 for range use.

I know ratio wise, 7 to 8 rounds is significant, but I don't mind. If I can't do it with 14 then I shouldn't have been there or I guess brought along the 9mm:neener:

Fishbed77
March 10, 2014, 05:21 PM
My question is this. Are 8 round mags just as reliable as 7 round mags or is there no difference?

No difference in reliability in my experience. I have had great results with both Chip McCormick and Colt 8-rounders.

wally
March 10, 2014, 06:49 PM
My years of experience with a larger variety of magazines says the 8 round are not as reliable as the 7 round.

The 8 round are generally plenty reliable enough for the range or games, but for carry I'd use a 7 round in the gun + one in the chamber and carry an 8 round for backup. The 8 round failures pretty much always are on the last shot (usually stovepipe, or the occasional fail to feed "bolt over base" type failure) so I figure I'd be no worse off that with a spare 7 rounder and may be able to get off an extra shot.

Nickb45
March 10, 2014, 07:19 PM
I haven't had any issues with the Wilson ETM 8 rounders, I have only had them for about a month (maybe 1000 rounds out of them) the only reason I don't carry one in the pistol is they stick out, but the bumper is nice when they are on my weak side, no metal corners digging into my love handles.

browningguy
March 10, 2014, 08:25 PM
I use the Wilson 8 rounder in my S&W 1911SC and have never had an issue.

1911Tuner
March 11, 2014, 05:23 AM
Let's look at the question with a logical approach.

The 1911 was designed for the US Army, with the assumption that it would be heading for the killing fields sooner or later. When it was designed, it was also assumed that it would be deployed in a more active role in the fight rather than being issued to personnel who weren't normally issued rifles.

On a battlefield, one more round could make all the difference in the world to the poor stiff depending on that one extra round.

Does anyone believe that the standard magazine would accommodate 8 rounds somehow escaped John Browning's notice? Really?

Is it reasonable to believe that he dabbled with that one extra round, and...on discovering that it didn't provide the functional reliability that he and the army demanded...forgot about it and stuck with seven?

Browning and a team of Colt's top engineers that he had at his disposal burned a lotta midnight oil in designing that pistol. They didn't just throw the thing together and call it good. Be assured that there were some very good reasons that the magazine was held to 7 rounds.

Ala Tom
March 11, 2014, 09:57 AM
My new Ruger 1911 Commander is used only for home defense and for practice on the range to maintain capability. Two 7-round magazines came with it. I thought about getting some 8-round mags but, after loading up a few times, I found I was only loading 5 at a time for practice anyway. When loading for duty (repelling home invasions) I load all 7 in both mags. I don't load the chamber. The gun is kept at arm's length in the living room. But so is my Ruger 40, kept with 10 rounds including one in the chamber with the safety on. That is my carry gun when I need self defense away from home (not often).

In case anyone wonders, both the 40 and the 45 are loaded with defense ammo having a muzzle energy of just over 400 ft-lbs.

Onmilo
March 11, 2014, 12:14 PM
I own three 1911 pistols and have had less than spectacular results with several brands of 8 shot magazines.
Some don't interface with the slide stop correctly & lock the slide open on the last round.
Some won't lock into the mag well on a closed slide.
Some don't feed well.

I gave up and use only Colt 7 rounders now but may try a few of the Brownells 8 shot mags just to see if they actually improved the overall design,,,

mnhntr
March 11, 2014, 01:46 PM
Wilson Combat 47D 8rd mags

PJSprog
March 11, 2014, 04:51 PM
I've had no problems from either 7 or 8 round mags in my RIA. But then again, none of them have any really extended mileage on them yet. Those new 8-rounders from RIA seem to work great, though.

On An Island
March 11, 2014, 04:57 PM
I'm running a Sig 1911 Scorpion with 8-round Sig mags and a pair of Wilson Combat Elite 500C 8-rounders (low-profile base). I've had zero issues with any of them. Having said that, the round count on the pistol is about 1K, so I can't speak to long-term reliability yet.

rodinal220
March 11, 2014, 06:50 PM
7 round stock factory Colt mags always worked well for me.

CWL
March 11, 2014, 06:55 PM
Personally, I think that technology in tube, springs and feed lips has improved enough to have one extra bullet in the magazine. -But I'd never go for any cheapo magazines for any of my firearms.

I have 9 M1911s nowadays, 2 stock, but the rest range from semi-custom to full house builds.
I have found Chip McCormick Power Mags and their Shooting Star (Milspec) magazines to function reliably in all of my M1911s. They have been economical as well as reliable for me.

I still have a bunch of Wilson Combat, a couple of Tripp Research Cobras, plus a medley of other mags accumulated from over the years, but I stick with my Chip M's for practice & carry.

Dr.Rob
March 11, 2014, 07:03 PM
My Colts run on 7 rd Colt mags or 8 rd Chip McCormicks only.

Papaster
March 12, 2014, 12:28 AM
My 8 round magazines seem to be a little more ammo picky than the 7 round mags I've got. Two of my 8 round magazines don't always play nice with hollow point ammunition.

skoro
March 12, 2014, 10:42 AM
Are 8 round mags just as reliable as 7 round mags or is there no difference?

I have an accumulation of 7 and 8 rd magazines for my Colts. Some are pretty old and worn. But I've never noticed any problems with any of them. If I were to keep one stoked for HD purposes, it would have an 8 rounder.

Lucky Derby
March 13, 2014, 08:08 AM
1911tuner makes a good, and valid point, however metalurgy has come a long way in the last 100 years.
Stick with quality mags and you shouldn't have issues with either in most 1911. Sometimes the gun will have a preference.
All of my serious use mags are Wilsons. Either 47Ds or ETMs.

tarosean
March 13, 2014, 12:38 PM
I only run 8 and 10rders. (Wilson, CMC Power and ACT)

mesinge2
March 13, 2014, 01:09 PM
Wilson Combat 8rd ETM mags and Brownells 8rd mags!

Steve S.
March 13, 2014, 06:23 PM
I have a Wilson CQB that came with two stainless eight rounders; I only load seven rounds as when I try to stack eight, number eight "feels" like it really binds (adds excessive tension) to the mag - seven seems to load smooth and easy so I stick with seven.

1858
March 13, 2014, 06:36 PM
I've been using 8-round Wilson Combat ETM, Kimber, Dan Wesson and Ed Brown magazines for the past four years or so with no issues in any of my 1911s (Ed Brown, Dan Wesson, Kimber). I've shot a bunch of 150+ round USPSA matches so replaced all of the WC plastic followers with CMI stainless steel dimpled followers only because the plastic followers drag/bind a little when there's sand/grit/dirt in the magazine tubes.

herrwalther
March 13, 2014, 08:08 PM
Never had a single issue with stock 8 rounders in my Para. Fire away.

shooter1
March 13, 2014, 08:19 PM
I've been shooting 1911s for the last half century. Only time I have used 7 rd mags was in the Army. Only mag related issues have been traceable to damaged mags or bad springs. With the quality construction of today's magazines and state of the art magazine springs I find no good reason to limit myself to 7rds. The 8 rounders are reliable enough for Single Stack division USPSA. That's likely the best proving ground we have these days. I do own a few dozen 7 round mags, still in the cosmoline.
str1

rick melear
March 13, 2014, 08:56 PM
Modern 8 round mags of quality manufacturing have worked flawless for me.

Drail
March 13, 2014, 08:59 PM
I also shot USPSA single stack through the 80s and 90s (before there was a single stack division) and I remember very clearly how many malfunctions occurred through those years on all of those ranges that were caused by 8 round flush magazines. And it was a very large number. Enough that I never used them for gaming or carry purposes. I still have and still use 10 Shooting Star mags that I bought around 1988 and they have never had more than 7 rounds in them and not one of them has ever failed to feed. I still use them today. I agree 100% with Tuner's post regarding this subject. If John Browning thought that there was any way that 8 rounds would fit (and I also am very sure that he did) and provide 100% reliability he would have figured out a way to make it work. In the end he went with 7. And the suggestion made that metallurgy and technology now makes it possible is ridiculous. Spring technology has not advanced THAT far yet. It may come to pass "someday" but we ain't there yet when it comes to steel springs crammed into the bottom of a magazine or holding up your 1/2 ton truck loaded with 3000 lbs. or lifting your garage door when it goes out of adjustment. I believe that with flush fit magazines the choice is - one more round - or 100% reliability. No contest in my mind. But anyone who thinks they are smarter than John Browning was is welcome to use anything they choose and bet the farm on it.

StrawHat
March 13, 2014, 10:27 PM
Here is some interesting reading.

http://how-i-did-it.org/magazines/

and

http://how-i-did-it.org/magazines/appendix.html

1858
March 13, 2014, 10:46 PM
I agree 100% with Tuner's post regarding this subject. If John Browning thought that there was any way that 8 rounds would fit (and I also am very sure that he did) and provide 100% reliability he would have figured out a way to make it work. In the end he went with 7.

And I suppose JMB invented Geometric Dimensioning & Tolerancing along with Tolerance Stacks Analysis too. He was clearly a gifted individual but was limited to the tools available to him. I don't buy the "if he couldn't make it work no one can" argument.

Nickb45
March 13, 2014, 11:47 PM
I'm really liking the Wilson ETM mags, they fed my pistol another 400 rounds between today and yesterday.

JRH6856
March 14, 2014, 12:21 AM
And I suppose JMB invented Geometric Dimensioning & Tolerancing along with Tolerance Stacks Analysis too. He was clearly a gifted individual but was limited to the tools available to him. I don't buy the "if he couldn't make it work no one can" argument.

I know that if you play fast and loose enough with the Dimensioning & Tolerancing of JMB's original design, you won't need a Tolerance Stacks Analysis to tell you you screwed up. ;)

1858
March 14, 2014, 12:40 AM
I know that if you play fast and loose enough with the Dimensioning & Tolerancing of JMB's original design, you won't need a Tolerance Stacks Analysis to tell you you screwed up.

If JMB had used GD&T there couldn't be any "fast and loose".

JRH6856
March 14, 2014, 12:44 AM
If JMB had used GD&T there couldn't be any "fast and loose".
But he didn't use it and it might be a bit late to apply it 103 years later.

mljdeckard
March 14, 2014, 12:54 AM
I use Wilson 47D 8 rounders. They have a medium bump, which helps when you have to do that tap-rack-bang thing. (I REALLY hate getting pinch blisters from magazines. :)

cfullgraf
March 14, 2014, 12:54 AM
I only buy 7 round 1911 magazines. It is what the gun was originally designed with.

That is not to say the 8 rounders do not work but I am not willing to risk it. I will leave it up to the individual to decide which to invest in.

Back in the early 1980s, I spliced together two GI magazines to make an 8 round magazine. It extends one round width from the base of the magwell. It has worked flawlessly. Not a simple project and one I will not repeat. I guess I had too much time on my hands at the time.:)

shooter1
March 14, 2014, 06:05 AM
If this were 1960, I'd be using 7 rd magazines. Fortunately metallurgy and design technology have evolved considerably in the last 50 yrs. I don't know where all these failed 8 rd mags are, but they must be pretty scarce in my AO. I would love to see the results of a side by side reliability test of the two magazine types. I suspect if both were properly maintained, there would be no measurable difference in reliability. To each his own, I'll keep my 8 rounders and rock on.
str1

postalnut25
March 14, 2014, 06:21 AM
I carry a 1911 on duty, so my magazines need to work. I carry Chip McCormick 8 round Power Mags. Never had a problem.

One caveat is that I keep my gun in shape, and change springs. I also clean my magazines and change springs when they are needed. Maintenance goes a long way.

stressed
March 14, 2014, 06:58 AM
Can't comment on the 1911 mags. Only "1911" I had was a para P10 warthawg with a double stack 10 round magazine, and it sucked.

I can say MecGars are top quality. I run them in my Lugers flawlessly, and the Luger is know to be finicky as well. Like the 1911 they have them in 8 round for Lugers where original Luger mags were 7 round. So the quality is up there.

45_auto
March 14, 2014, 07:35 AM
Does anyone believe that the standard magazine would accommodate 8 rounds somehow escaped John Browning's notice? Really?

Is it reasonable to believe that he dabbled with that one extra round, and...on discovering that it didn't provide the functional reliability that he and the army demanded...forgot about it and stuck with seven?

Browning and a team of Colt's top engineers that he had at his disposal burned a lotta midnight oil in designing that pistol. They didn't just throw the thing together and call it good. Be assured that there were some very good reasons that the magazine was held to 7 rounds.

I'm pretty sure that the ability of the human race to learn and improve didn't end with John Moses. Using your logic, airplanes would only carry one person and be able to fly a couple of hundred feet. There is a lot of knowledge and tools available to modern engineers that didn't exist 100 years ago.

Does anyone believe that an airplane the size of the Wright Flyer would be able to carry more than one person and fly more than 852 feet escaped the Wright brother's notice? Really?

Is it reasonable to believe that they dabbled with that extra capacity and range, and...on discovering that it didn't provide the functional reliability that was demanded...forgot about it and stuck with the single person, 852 foot flight capability?

Wilbur and Orville Wright burned a lotta midnight oil in designing that plane. They didn't just throw the thing together and call it good. Be assured that there were some very good reasons that it only carried one person and had a range of 852 feet.

Doesn't mean that any possibility of improvement on airplane design ended with the Wright's design, just as the possibility of any improvement in 1911 magazine design didn't end with John Browning.

I've been using Wilson 8 round 1911 mags for longer than I can remember with no problems at all.

Drail
March 14, 2014, 10:37 AM
That's a pretty "creative" analogy there 45 auto. Not very good but "creative".

GBExpat
March 14, 2014, 10:52 AM
Are 8 round mags just as reliable as 7 round mags or is there no difference?
I have only used tested USGI 7rounders in my 1911s and never experienced any issues after the "testing" phase (some fail, btw).

I am glad that you have asked the question, though ... thanks. I will now go to the top and read thru all of the 50 answers in order to learn what other reliable options are available to me. ;)

JRH6856
March 14, 2014, 01:45 PM
Doesn't mean that any possibility of improvement on airplane design ended with the Wright's design, just as the possibility of any improvement in 1911 magazine design didn't end with John Browning.

Well, comparing changes in the design of a complete system to changes in the design of a component of a system is invalid. How far do you think the Wright Flyer would go if you built the same design today but added a 20% larger gas tank?

Will it fly? Perhaps, but the margin for error in the rest of the system is a lot less. And so is the range of operating environment.

Each of us will use what we have to most confidence in and that won't be the same for all of us.

420Stainless
March 14, 2014, 02:00 PM
My XSE came with an 8 round mag and I've I've since purchased two more with the Colt logo (don't know if Colt actually makes them). All have worked well together without any problems. Only a sample of one gun and three magazines, so not much use in determining overall reliability.

All of my other 1911 experience is with 7 round magazines, so I have no idea how touchy as a whole the design might be to 8 round mags. I tend to trust those with more experience that are saying it can be touchy. Quite honestly, the only magazine problems I've ever had with any 1911 was when I bought a couple of $5 no name magazines at a gunshow back in the 80's. Performance sucked with those things and I promptly threw them away.

buckhorn_cortez
March 14, 2014, 02:19 PM
Well, comparing changes in the design of a complete system to changes in the design of a component of a system is invalid. How far do you think the Wright Flyer would go if you built the same design today but added a 20% larger gas tank?

Will it fly? Perhaps, but the margin for error in the rest of the system is a lot less. And so is the range of operating environment.

Each of us will use what we have to most confidence in and that won't be the same for all of us.

Very poor analogy. Let's assume the Flyer was built using the latest in composite materials, lightweight metals, etc. and the margin of error changes completely.

Same thing with the 1911 magazine deaign. A number of things have been improved with the 8 round magazines - feed lip and follower design, and the springs are of a completely different alloy material, and they're also designed so they're tapered and collapse inside of themselves instead of stacking. Then you get to the new ETM design with the flat wire spring - and you have yet another improvement.

I have about 40 Wilson ETM's that I use in seven different 1911's and find no difference in reliability when compared to 7 round magazines.

Use whatever you want - but the 8 round designs cannot be directly compared to the original 7 round magazine as the 8 round magazine is a different design.

JRH6856
March 14, 2014, 03:01 PM
Very poor analogy. Let's assume the Flyer was built using the latest in composite materials, lightweight metals, etc. and the margin of error changes completely.

Let's not. Once again, you are changing the entire system. Keep the same wood and paper construction, the same engine, the same size and weight pilot. Just add a larger and heavier fuel tank.

Or, redesign the entire system making changes to the design and materials of various components and their relationship to each other, in a manner that takes advantage of the improvement in technologies. IOW, get a Glock. :evil:

Hunterdad
March 14, 2014, 04:54 PM
I use nothing by chip McCormick 10 rounders and they've been 100% I would imagine the 8 rounders are just as good.

mljdeckard
March 14, 2014, 11:55 PM
I'll say it this way. Yes, I use 8 rounders, and I trust them. But if I was really worried about higher capacity, I wouldn't carry a single-stack auto. (In fact, I often carry a Para SF-45A with 14 rd magazines.)

I can go along with the idea that Browning designed the magazines for 7 rounds and that might be for a good reason. But that doesn't mean that any design that came AFTER it is automatically flawed.

JRH6856
March 15, 2014, 12:03 AM
I can go along with the idea that Browning designed the magazines for 7 rounds and that might be for a good reason. But that doesn't mean that any design that came AFTER it is automatically flawed.

Nor does it mean they are automatically flawless. It is a change in the design of the system. When making such changes, it prudent to be aware that there may be problems. If you start with that awareness but have no problems there is nothing lost.

mljdeckard
March 15, 2014, 12:29 AM
My Wilson 47Ds run better than any traditional magazine I have ever used.

JRH6856
March 15, 2014, 12:52 AM
My Wilson 47Ds run better than any traditional magazine I have ever used.
Just curious, do they function flawlessly in all positions? Such as upside down? The article linked in post #39 suggest they might fail under those conditions and not having any to test myself, I've always wondered.

mljdeckard
March 15, 2014, 03:30 AM
I have run them a few times upside down, no problems. If I recall correctly, I even dipped the rear sight in the dirt as I fired, and got eyes full of dirt, but no, it didn't malfunction. I have fired a lot more sideways, no malfunctions that I can recall.

Field Tester
March 15, 2014, 04:58 AM
Buy once, cry once. Chip McCormick for all your needs no matter what capacity. I bought cheap for years. Picked up a CM my first time 5 years ago on a whim. It may be double the cost but the cheap ones only last a year. My CM is still going strong with no hiccups. I'll only buy CM and Wilson from now on.

JTQ
March 15, 2014, 07:12 AM
Ref Wilson 47D magazines
JRH6856 wrote,
Just curious, do they function flawlessly in all positions? Such as upside down? The article linked in post #39 suggest they might fail under those conditions and not having any to test myself, I've always wondered.
That is an interesting article and I've read it several times over the years. The author claims that due to their wadcutter feed lips, Wilson mags display a loss of controlled round feeding is just that, a claim. The author makes that claim early in the article and then tests a bunch of mags, but never demonstrates the loss of controlled round feed in his tests. Note, there is not a McCormick or Tripp mag in the test.

Many make the logic leap that since Wilson mags have wadcutter feed lips and will display a loss of controlled feeding, they will avoid the Wilson mags and buy another top rated mag, McCormick PowerMags. If you've ever held Wilson and McCormick mag side by side, you'll notice their feed lips are virtually identical. Both use wadcutter feed lips with the same release point. Another very highly rated mag is the Tripp Research Cobra Mags. They also have wadcutter feed lips, though they do have a slightly later release point.

While I've not been to any of the big name 1911 training courses, if you look at pictures or videos of trainers from Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, or Shootrite, chances are good you'll see them using Wilson mags. Certainly it's possible they use them because Wilson gives them to these instructors for free, or even pays them to use them. However, those guys are rolling on the ground, shooting from the oddest positions imaginable and I'll guess those mags work just fine or they wouldn't be able to conduct their classes. The USMC uses the 7 round Wilson 47 mag in their 1911's, and I suspect they shoot their guns at odd angles, even upside down sometimes.

There is a lot of love for CheckMate's hybrid feed lip mags on a few forums, but ask any group of 1911 shooters what mags they use and chances are they are using a mag with wadcutter feed lips, whether it is Wilson, McCormick, Tripp, CERTAC, or ACT-Mag/Novak/Wolff, they all have wadcutter feed lips. I'm not claiming any of those are the best, just that if they didn't work, they wouldn't be popular.

JRH6856
March 15, 2014, 10:32 AM
Thanks, JTQ. That helps. I've lost count of the mags I've gone through over the years in several different 1911's. I had one that was happy with any 7 round mag holding any shape bullet I fed it but it went jamomatic using the same ammo in 8 rounders with the same shape lips and followers. Had another that had no problem with either 7 or 8 as long as the followers were flat with dimples. It would choke on the last round off of a rounded follower.

My current 1911 wants GI tapered or "hybrid" feedlips with flat, dimpled followers. It will feed anything from those, but from wadcutter feed lips it will only feed 185 gr semi-wads. It doesn't like rounded followers, either. I haven't tried any 8 rounders with this one.

goon
March 15, 2014, 08:09 PM
If you're talking stock magazines, I prefer the 7 rounders.
If you're not talking stock magazines, maybe some Wilson 8 rounders.

cdb1
March 17, 2014, 05:45 PM
Thanks for all of the responses.

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