El Paso Bar-B-Que Rig


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huntershooter
March 12, 2014, 11:09 AM
Finally finished an engraved 1911 project and thought I'd show the leather for it.
El Paso "Ranger", hand carved holster and belt:

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/huntershooter/Pll%20Engraved/005_zps21891c69.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/huntershooter/Pll%20Engraved/004_zpsb3beb3b3.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/huntershooter/Pll%20Engraved/007_zps81541895.jpg

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Deltaboy
March 12, 2014, 11:31 AM
Nice work and El Paso Saddle products are great.

CraigC
March 12, 2014, 11:42 AM
What a stunning outfit! Pistol and leather turned out great, mighty fine!

JRH6856
March 12, 2014, 12:01 PM
Best argument for open carry I've seen in a long time.

Rev. Chad
March 12, 2014, 01:42 PM
I am so jealous. :D Great looking pistol and holster rig. I use El Paso Saddlery exclusively for my carry guns.

rayban
March 12, 2014, 07:37 PM
Beautiful outfit!!

TRX
March 13, 2014, 07:43 AM
I was actually surprised to see a righteous retainer strap and the cutaway for the trigger finger. I guess I've been looking at too many new-style holsters lately, with the trigger discreetly covered and "we don't neet no steenkeeng straps!"

If the open carry question is settled favorably in my area, the urge for a nice rig like that would be hard to resist...

armedwalleye
March 14, 2014, 10:12 PM
You, sir, are welcome for dinner if you should ever find yourself in Minnesota.

kbbailey
March 14, 2014, 11:31 PM
Best argument for open carry I've seen in a long time.
Well said.

That gun and rig is just righteous.
congrats

UKWildcatFan
March 14, 2014, 11:42 PM
I shall not covet, I shall not covet, I shall not covet.

JRH6856
March 14, 2014, 11:54 PM
I won't covet his. I want one of my own. ;)

bannockburn
March 15, 2014, 10:52 AM
huntershooter

Wow that's one fine looking gun and rig you've got there! Would take 1st place at any BBQ I have ever been too. Thanks for sharing two great works of art.

mgmorden
March 15, 2014, 01:01 PM
I will admit that I don't like the holster exposing the trigger, but otherwise the craftsmanship looks quite nice. Good job!

il.bill
March 15, 2014, 01:23 PM
Very, very nice.

Now I finally understand the term "Bar-B-Que" gun.

JRH6856
March 15, 2014, 01:26 PM
I will admit that I don't like the holster exposing the trigger,

It's not an issue with a 1911.

mgmorden
March 15, 2014, 01:35 PM
It's not an issue with a 1911.

I'm sure Tex Grebner would disagree - I don't think it wise with ANY gun - and most of the major action pistol sports require the trigger be covered (regardless of gun type). To me that's about like saying its ok to point a gun at someone if its unloaded (not as bad - but same mindset). Safe practices are meant to stack atop each other.

As I said though the workmanship on the holster and gun look great.

JRH6856
March 15, 2014, 01:45 PM
I'm sure Tex Grebner would disagree - I don't think it wise with ANY gun - and most of the major action pistol sports require the trigger be covered (regardless of gun type). To me that's about like saying its ok to point a gun at someone if its unloaded (not as bad - but same mindset). Safe practices are meant to stack atop each other.

As I said though the workmanship on the holster and gun look great.
With a 1911, the trigger is blocked by the grip safety and the sear is blocked by the thumb safety. Neither of which can be disengaged by pressure on the trigger. In addition, when holstered and strapped, the hammer is blocked by the strap. So covering the trigger accomplishes nothing. Though certainly not recommended practice, you could hang the entire rig as pictured on a nail through the trigger guard without any chance of an incident.

A Glock or other firearm with a similar "safe trigger" design, in a similar rig would be completely unsafe. With a Glock especially, the only mechanical safety is on the trigger, which means there is no safety at all when the gun is holstered except what can be provided by covering or blocking access to the trigger.

I understand about the rules in the major action sports. Some rules are necessary for some but for fairness, they apply to everyone.

j1
March 15, 2014, 01:51 PM
Pretty pictures and nice work. Thanks for sharing. :)

mgmorden
March 15, 2014, 01:55 PM
With a 1911, the trigger is blocked by the grip safety and the sear is blocked by the thumb safety. Neither of which can be disengaged by pressure on the trigger. In addition, when holstered and strapped, the hammer is blocked by the strap. So covering the trigger accomplishes nothing. Though certainly not recommended practice, you could hang the entire rig as pictured on a nail through the trigger guard without any chance of an incident.

A Glock or other firearm with a similar "safe trigger" design, in a similar rig would be completely unsafe. With a Glock especially, the only mechanical safety is on the trigger, which means there is no safety at all when the gun is holstered except what can be provided by covering or blocking access to the trigger.

My issue is that it encourages the finger to go in the trigger guard during the draw. As I stated in a side thread that was started discussing this issue, the only ND I've ever seen personally was a 1911 during the draw - all the safety's are typically off during this period and having the exposed trigger in my mind just encourages the finger to to into the trigger guard.

That said, I don't wish to sidetrack this thread discussing this issue. I won't post anymore in this thread about this matter. If you want to continue the other thread is at:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=746241

JRH6856
March 15, 2014, 02:06 PM
That said, I don't wish to sidetrack this thread discussing this issue. I won't post anymore in this thread about this matter. If you want to continue the other thread...

Me, either. See you there.

Hometeached1
March 16, 2014, 12:23 PM
The only case for CC being a crime. Why is it, that the people that OC always have a G***k or XD?

RPRNY
March 16, 2014, 12:25 PM
What, no warning? You can't just throw gun porn like that around with no warning!

That is, simply put, a gorgeous combination.

LUCKYDAWG13
March 16, 2014, 06:56 PM
wow is that just beautiful thank you for sharing

Iggy
March 16, 2014, 07:13 PM
That's a down right fine use of cow hide and the gun ain't too shabby neither.:)

Cooldill
March 16, 2014, 07:24 PM
Very pretty! Nothing I would ever carry into battle though, it's too nice for that! All these holster names like "bar-b-que" and "sourdough pancake" (yum!) make me hungry!

huntershooter
March 16, 2014, 09:23 PM
For those that think you can't, or shouldn't, shoot an engraved gun...

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/huntershooter/Pll%20Engraved/018_zpse6dfb06f.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b434/huntershooter/Pll%20Engraved/030_zpsb82465a2.jpg

wicked251
March 16, 2014, 10:30 PM
Damn that's nice! Wish I could wear that!

Eaglestroker
March 18, 2014, 04:06 PM
All are stunning. That is quite an interesting belt, It's half Scout half Ranger. I'm sure it cuts down on the bulk at the front a traditional Ranger belt has. Very cool!

RetiredUSNChief
March 19, 2014, 08:54 PM
You know...as much as I love my leather gunfigher belt/holster, I just never gave thought to holstering my 1991A1 on it.

THAT, sir, is a beautiful mix of pistol and leather! I've hereby added this to my list of things I'm gonna get.

:)

788Ham
March 19, 2014, 11:06 PM
Beautiful piece of leather ! Very nice engraving on the pistol too, glad to see you've used it after the putty went on. I need to get something like that to tote my Smith #15 around in, but then I'd have to check over the neighbor's fence to see if they're BBQ'in' . Thanks for showing us your nice weapon and leather.

Lucky Derby
March 21, 2014, 07:45 AM
Beautiful leather. Congrats.

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