A good Seax knife ?


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Shanghai McCoy
March 15, 2014, 06:41 PM
So, thanks to the History Channel :rolleyes:, I now have seax lust.
Are there any decent and useable examples out there for sale at an affordable price?
I have looked at KOA for the axes and see they also have seax knives for sale but was wondering if they were any good or just props..?

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lobo9er
March 15, 2014, 07:03 PM
The Knives of Alaska Knives I have used and seen are users.

Sam Cade
March 15, 2014, 07:06 PM
The Knives of Alaska Knives I have used and seen are users.
He means Kult Of Athena.


http://www.kultofathena.com/

tomrkba
March 15, 2014, 07:10 PM
Arms & Armor. I have a Spada de Zogho training longsword that is amazing. Call them and ask since this was a custom piece:

http://www.armor.com/custom942.html

Some reviews and temptation:
http://www.myarmoury.com/reviews.html

Sam Cade
March 15, 2014, 07:12 PM
was wondering if they were any good or just props..?

As with all things, you get what you pay for.

The Windlass stuff that KOA sells is usually functional, more or less.

Shanghai McCoy
March 15, 2014, 07:15 PM
He means Kult Of Athena.


http://www.kultofathena.com/
Thanks Sam, sorry...:o
Too many years in acronym heavy occupations.

Shanghai McCoy
March 15, 2014, 07:28 PM
tomrka,
Thanks. Arms and Armour looks good.
That other website is pretty amazing as well. Lots of talent there.

Sam Cade
March 15, 2014, 09:59 PM
Himalayan Imports has also been known to produce an excellent (though ahistorical) saex type knife on occasion.

http://www.himalayan-imports.com/assets/images/HI_Seaxes02.jpg

hso
March 15, 2014, 10:08 PM
at an affordable price

You'll have to define that before anyone can help you in any meaningful manner.

Shanghai McCoy
March 16, 2014, 01:21 AM
You'll have to define that before anyone can help you in any meaningful manner.
Point taken...
I'd say in the 100-150 dollar range .

hso
March 16, 2014, 07:58 AM
What's the blade length you're looking for?

http://www.vikingkrafts.com/knives/

Shanghai McCoy
March 16, 2014, 10:48 AM
I was thinking 8 to 12" hso . I have seen that examples in museums seem to come in a variety of sizes.

tomrkba
March 16, 2014, 10:21 PM
Here is another:
http://fabri-armorum.com/english/?id=saxy.php

tomrkba
March 16, 2014, 10:36 PM
Here is another custom knife: http://www.paul-binns-swords.co.uk/Seaxes.htm

tomrkba
March 16, 2014, 11:16 PM
Just for fun: Swords...Old and New

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb425/tomrkba/fencing/BCM-and-Spada-1024x768.jpg

Radagast
March 17, 2014, 12:20 AM
That's a nice shot.

hso
March 17, 2014, 10:33 AM
And more appropriate would be a bow for a modern projectile weapon (or even the rocks under it).

***

You could have one made, but the price is going to be higher than you care to pay.
http://lukeshearerbladesmith.wordpress.com/

tomrkba
March 17, 2014, 11:19 AM
But this is a gun forum, so it needs a gun :) That, and today's "swords" are AR-15s.

Shanghai McCoy
March 17, 2014, 03:26 PM
Thanks to all who gave me info and direction for finding a seax knife. I shall check them out in the future.
Now, back to our usually scheduled "thread drift"...:rolleyes:
;) :D

BTW,nice photo tom.

Dr.Rob
April 2, 2014, 09:08 PM
I just realized while looking for a reasonable seax knife that I already own one. It's called a Kar98k bayonet.

Seriously, look at the blade shape. got this reproduction from IMA, would make a dandy seax if I could dismount the locking lug metal from the tang.. looks like it's brazed on.

Shanghai McCoy
April 3, 2014, 12:13 AM
Ya know,
That does look like a seax...

Radagast
April 3, 2014, 01:16 AM
It does have the right Angle to it...

JShirley
April 3, 2014, 07:57 AM
Swords were sidearms: main battle weapons would be spears and projectile weapons like bows.

Billy Shears
April 10, 2014, 08:31 PM
I just realized while looking for a reasonable seax knife that I already own one. It's called a Kar98k bayonet.
I'm about 95% certain your particular 98k bayonet has had the point ground down at some point, probably because the tip got broken off. The point appears a little too close to the fuller, and all the K98k bayonets I have ever seen didn't have that much drop to the point. The point was usually in line with the exact middle of the blade, not closer to the edge.

So while yours might make a passable seax, an original one wouldn't look all that close.

Sam Cade
April 24, 2014, 08:41 PM
I now have seax lust.

Me too.

I didn't find anything that really floated my boat so I just started making one.

Something like this:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=197676&stc=1&d=1398382649

Call it a techno saex. :cool:






I'll finish it up over the next couple days.

hso
April 24, 2014, 08:48 PM
No choils on seaxs, Samwise, otherwise its just a "reverse tanto".

Sam Cade
April 24, 2014, 09:18 PM
I'm still calling it a techno saex. :neener:


Keep on and I'll cut in semifunctional spine side sawteeth with an angle grinder and call it a survival saex. :evil:

Shanghai McCoy
April 24, 2014, 09:43 PM
It's Seax-y and he knows it... :rolleyes:
:D ;)

hso
April 24, 2014, 09:44 PM
Gaaaaaaaahhhh!

Shanghai McCoy
April 24, 2014, 09:46 PM
I, too, haven't seen one that really makes me reach for the credit card either. I'll be having more time available for projects come August so maybe I'll try my hand at making one then. :)

Sam Cade
April 24, 2014, 09:53 PM
Ok, I know!

I'll sharpen the clip and call it a Saex-Bowie!

Devastating Back Cut! :D

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Radagast
April 24, 2014, 10:20 PM
Naming it a techno-seax is just tooting your own horn.

*ducks*

Sam Cade
April 24, 2014, 10:26 PM
If it makes a musical note when swung we could call it a saexophone.

Shanghai McCoy
April 25, 2014, 08:32 AM
If it makes a musical note when swung we could call it a saexophone.
Uh Oh, now what did I start..? :uhoh:

Madcap_Magician
April 25, 2014, 11:44 AM
Very punny.

It doesn't have the traditional grip, but Bark River Knife and Tool makes has a Golok variation with a seax point that is pretty cool. Aside from the nontraditional (pinned G10, wood, or micarta) it's an excellent knife.

Sam1911
April 25, 2014, 12:50 PM
No choils on seaxs, Samwise, otherwise its just a "reverse tanto".Exactly! Which is why mine don't count. And they're too "stabby." Should be a bit blunter, I think, especially the big one.

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o588/OwensWeaponsmithing/Shivver/033013007_zpsb0516467.jpg (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/OwensWeaponsmithing/media/Shivver/033013007_zpsb0516467.jpg.html)

Sam Cade
April 25, 2014, 08:26 PM
Sam-saexes. :cool:

hso
April 25, 2014, 08:37 PM
Sam, (the other Sam)

There were small pointy seaxs and big broad steep pointed seaxs. Yours would fit in fine squatting around a fire in furs if they had simple tangs with wood or bone scales.

walking arsenal
April 26, 2014, 11:58 PM
I've got a Kris cutlery Scramasax that is a very nice looking blade. It comes naked though so you will have to dress the scabbard and do some finishing to the handle if you get one. I'm in t he process of doing mine right now. It's taking a while because I want it to look period authentic but can't decide on a design.

Dr.Rob
April 28, 2014, 04:26 AM
You guys that actually make knives will scoff... but this was my solution to an inexpensive costume seax for the Renaissance Fest...

$17 Pakistani bowie knife with bone scales from Amazon scrubbed of markings with a 3M pad and given a bath in slathered yellow mustard overnight.

A pattern cut from cardboard and matched in tooling leather with a couple pre-made hanger straps. A few hours here and there wet shaping, sewing, carving and it's starting to look like a Viking's knife when sheathed blade up.

I'm having so much fun carving leather I've bought a bunch more tools. No, it doesn't look like a Tandy, and it's not supposed to.

(Mortified that my Bagwell Bowie also fits this sheath.)

Sam1911
April 28, 2014, 08:16 AM
Oh, man that is COOL! I really like that!

hso
April 28, 2014, 11:11 AM
You're going to have to take a grinder to it to reshape the blade to seax profile, but you've got a good start to it.

Sam Cade
April 28, 2014, 11:50 PM
Didn't have time to finish the big not-a-saex today. :(




Did have time to make this little thing though :D:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=197851&stc=1&d=1398739554

It's only about a foot long. ;)


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http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=197852&stc=1&d=1398739554

Sam1911
April 29, 2014, 07:51 AM
That's a serious little knife! Cool!

Shanghai McCoy
April 29, 2014, 07:51 AM
Nice Sam. Very nice.

tiamat
April 29, 2014, 12:21 PM
Just curious, but what do you do with all these knives that you keep pumping out? 1 every 2 days or so... that's a lot of knives. Hanging them on a wall? giving them away? selling them?

Sam Cade
April 29, 2014, 12:48 PM
1 every 2 days or so... that's a lot of knives. Hanging them on a wall? giving them away? selling them?

Yes. All of the above. ;)

..and I'm pretty ruthless in my testing so a lot of knives get purposefully broken since I'm still learning the craft and doing my own heat treat.

Right now making knives is a zero cost endeavor for me since the few knives I make to sell cover materials. Time is my chief constraint.

I'm to the point now where some capital investment to upgrade my grinder is probably the smart thing to do.

Probably to the Grizzly G1015, which if memory serves, is the grinder that Sam1911 uses.

http://cdn0.grizzly.com/pics/jpeg500/g/g1015-c04d4fde513b7043283d52d155f065a6.jpg


To keep this on topic, the Saex/Wharncliffe/Sheepsfoot profile is about the easiest pattern of knife to grind since the grind is perfectly straight.
Just grind the primary bevel, then chop the point to your desired shape.
Easy-peasy.

Sam1911
April 29, 2014, 01:05 PM
Probably to the Grizzly G1015, which if memory serves, is the grinder that Sam1911 uses.Yup! With the bigger 10" lower wheel.

I can see a lot of benefit to the bigger more professional grinders, but the cost'll kill ya.

The Grizzly will take off just as much skin and fingernails as the big boys...

hso
April 29, 2014, 06:24 PM
A knife maker's grinder will pay for itself in time if you're intending to make a profit from the knives you make.

Fred Fuller
April 30, 2014, 12:03 PM
OK, y'all made me look. Who knew there were so many belt sanders?
====================

https://sites.google.com/site/vorpalcustomknives/shop-techniques-3/grinders

Brin
April 30, 2014, 10:28 PM
I could not afford a knife makers 72 belt sander, so I made one. I did not see the point of drilling, taping, and bolting it together so I welded it together and it works great. I have about $250 into it. :)

hso
April 30, 2014, 10:57 PM
http://www.usaknifemaker.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=NWGS

http://www.waynecoeartistblacksmith.com/Grinders.html

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