Arizona Urgent! Anti-gun group in Phoenix to influence Brewer! Tomorrow Mar 26


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Midwest
March 25, 2014, 08:49 PM
Arizona Urgent! Anti-gun group in Phoenix to influence Brewer! Tomorrow Mar 26 2014


I saw this at open carry.org Moms Demand Illegal Mayors will be at the State Capitol in Phoenix tomorrow March 26 2014 between 11 am and stay till 3 pm according to the site. "Address is: 1700 W. Washington St. Phoenix, AZ 85007" The site suggests that Bloomberg's money is behind this.

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?121023-Fire-mission-help-needed-!&p=2046921#post2046921


"Tomorrow at the state house Mom's demand action will be onsite demanding that some pro 2A bills be vetoed by Governor brewer. In addition they will be lobbying members of the legislature too.

If at all possible please go down to the capital and show your support for freedom!"

I would have posted this earlier, but I just saw this. Those of you who live in Arizona and especially in Phoenix need to show up in numbers tomorrow.


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Yo Mama
March 25, 2014, 09:32 PM
Thanks for the heads up on this, I'll definitely call tomorrow. However, if they want to spend/waste Bloomberg's money to try to sway Jan Brewer, then I'm fine with it. She's not going to change her mind either way.

vamo
March 25, 2014, 09:49 PM
What are the bills in question?

JSH1
March 25, 2014, 10:56 PM
Who are "Moms Demand Illegal Mayors"?

EDIT: What bills do they want vetoed?

cheesebigot
March 26, 2014, 02:54 AM
Below is an article (not the best) about the bills.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/03/17/4001588/arizona-senate-committee-approves.html

House Bill 2339 would allow gun owners with concealed-carry permits to bring weapons into government buildings unless security measures — including armed guards, metal detectors and gun lockers — are in place.

House Bill 2338 is a preventative measure in case a criminal were to take the gun of someone using it in self-defense

House Bill 2517, sponsored by Rep. Steve Smith, R-Maricopa, would impose fines on cities, towns and their lawmakers who enforce gun ordinances stricter than the state's own laws.

...Plus a couple more in the article.

stressed
March 26, 2014, 03:13 AM
I like all those laws. BUT why in theyre right mind would "mothers" want to fight the second one? They approve of criminals using your gun against you!? Brain does not compute. Liberal misfire.

Midwest
March 26, 2014, 08:58 AM
I found the press releases if anyone is interested. Looks like someone came up with money for buses from Tucson. Wonder if Gabby and Bloomberg are behind all of this.

http://nb.momsdemandaction.org/az_20130326


"Arizona Gun Violence Prevention Lobby Day"
Posted by Moms Demand Action Arizona 16GSP on March 16, 2014

"Join Moms from across the state in a day of action! Participate in a Moms breakout session, a press conference with out state legislators, lunch and face to face meetings! Afterward we will host a short meet and greet with Moms members.
WHEN
March 26, 2014 at 11am - 3:30pm "



Here is the Facebook page press release

https://www.facebook.com/MomsDemandActionAZ


"Moms from across the state will be joining fellow gun violence prevention advocates to speak out for gun sense.

When:
March 26th 11am-2pm
Where:
Arizona State Senate Majority Caucus Room

It is not too late to RSVP!

We are asking all attendees to RSVP.
This will help us plan for our meetings, trainings and lunch.
We have transportation available from Tucson, if you would like to be on the bus email- jstrauss@email.arizona.edu to let us know!"



What are they training for?

Good Luck


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steelerdude99
March 26, 2014, 09:42 AM
I like all those laws. BUT why in theyre right mind would "mothers" want to fight the second one? They approve of criminals using your gun against you!? Brain does not compute. Liberal misfire.


House Bill 2338 is a preventative measure in case a criminal were to take the gun of someone using it in self-defense, said Barton, who also sponsored this bill. Democrats say the measure is a waste of time because it rehashes what's already a crime.


The Democrats never pass redundant laws to make an illegal act more illegal. (If you did not notice, sarcasm intended.)


House Bill 2517, sponsored by Rep. Steve Smith, R-Maricopa, would impose fines on cities, towns and their lawmakers who enforce gun ordinances stricter than the state's own laws. The bill would impose a civil penalty of up to $5,000 on city and town governments that violate the statute. It would also allow the state to sue individual government officials, such as city councilors, and would prohibit them from using public funds to defend themselves in court.


House Bill 2517 sounds like a winner w/ the fine and requirement to use their on money in court.

chuck

Ryanxia
March 26, 2014, 10:37 AM
Good luck guys, give us an after action report.

Midwest
March 26, 2014, 10:46 AM
This is also posted at Arizona Gun Owners


http://arizonagunowners.com/index.php/topic,6763.0.html

"Topic: HELP NEEDED: MDA event tomorrow! (Wed. 26th of March)"


"They purposely make these things short-notice so that Freedom-loving individuals are caught unprepared while their posse of professional protestors with nothing else to do are bussed in using money provided by sugar-daddy Bloomberg."



Here is what is at stake and why it is so important to be there.....

http://arizonagunowners.com/index.php/topic,6763.msg82985.html#msg82985

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DT Guy
March 26, 2014, 11:25 AM
I anticipate my Facebook comments being removed very shortly, but it made me feel better. :)

Including this one:
“Certain politically motivated groups have mistakenly reported that the removal of our Chicago billboard was due to their influence,” Slide Fire CEO Chris Nichols told me Tuesday. “The advertisement in question was scheduled to run for two months and had completed that time frame upon removal.”

Larry

Pizzapinochle
March 26, 2014, 01:11 PM
House Bill 2517 sounds like a winner w/ the fine and requirement to use their on money in court.

chuck

Yeah.... even if passed (not likely), that one won't last very long on court appeal. Suing elected gov't officials for doing their job (passing laws) is not going to fly. Whoever submitted that bill knows it, but likes all the pro-gun publicity they are going to get from it.

hso
March 26, 2014, 02:55 PM
https://momsdemandaction.org/

They're another Bloomberg backed Anti organization. They're the folks wanting Facebook to deny access to firearms companies.

Poper
March 26, 2014, 03:04 PM
We have transportation available from Tucson, if you would like to be on the bus email- jstrauss@email.arizona.edu to let us know!"If I am not mistaken, the email address in this sentence is a University of Arizona e-mail address. I wonder, are faculty and employees of U of A allowed to use their e-mail addresses for non-U of A business and political activism?

Bartholomew Roberts
March 26, 2014, 06:39 PM
Yeah.... even if passed (not likely), that one won't last very long on court appeal. Suing elected gov't officials for doing their job (passing laws) is not going to fly. Whoever submitted that bill knows it, but likes all the pro-gun publicity they are going to get from it.

On the contrary, a similar law was passed in Florida and has held up just fine. The lawmakers aren't being sued for doing their job - they are being sued for passing laws they know to be contrary to state preemption law. There is no reason the taxpayer should have to pay for that defense.

Pizzapinochle
March 26, 2014, 08:30 PM
On the contrary, a similar law was passed in Florida and has held up just fine. The lawmakers aren't being sued for doing their job - they are being sued for passing laws they know to be contrary to state preemption law. There is no reason the taxpayer should have to pay for that defense.
Has any government official been pesonally fined under the Florida law?

Bartholomew Roberts
March 26, 2014, 10:03 PM
Has any government official been pesonally fined under the Florida law?

There has been no need as all the officials involved chose to repeal the municipal ordinances instead. The Mayor of West Palm Beach promised to challenge the law in court; but instead he repealed the conflicting municipal ordinance. Apparently, his talks with legal counsel changed his mind.

Kentucky also has this law on the books as well. No issues there either.

JSH1
March 26, 2014, 11:22 PM
https://momsdemandaction.org/

They're another Bloomberg backed Anti organization. They're the folks wanting Facebook to deny access to firearms companies.

I know about Moms Demand Action and Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

I was pointing out the juvenile tactic of stooping to the level of name calling.

hso
March 26, 2014, 11:56 PM
Yes, it is juvenile and doesn't help our cause one bit.

armoredman
March 27, 2014, 01:47 AM
I also feel that 2517 is an excellent idea - there is a Tucson politician who needs this made law, so he'll stop trying to violate the state preemption law, and yes, if they break the law, they can be prosecuted - this isn't Washington DC.
All of the House Bills in question are languishing waiting to be heard in the Senate Rules Committee. They will do just fine if they get that last hearing before going to the Committee of the Whole and Third Read on the Senate floor.

Midwest
March 27, 2014, 06:12 AM
Is there followup to yesterday's event?

How many pro-gun people attend?

Did Brewer listen to the anti-gun group or did she ignore them?

What was said at the press conference?

Was Gabby there too?

What did they say to the Legislature?

Did anyone from our side attend the gathering in the Arizona State Senate Majority Caucus Room?

Brief summary?

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Midwest
March 27, 2014, 01:02 PM
FOLLOWUP (or the lack there of)

On the Open carry forum, one person said that he might have been the only pro-gun person there. Whatever event there was it might not have amounted to much.

In the Arizona forum, there is a picture of a bus (presumably from Tuscon) and several media vehicles including KTAR.com and Fox 10 . A cursory look on the Fox 10 and KTAR websites didn't reveal anything. I didn't look any further.

Perhaps someone could add to this. But if we only had one pro-gun person show up. That doesn't bode well for us...

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armoredman
March 29, 2014, 02:53 PM
Note the event was held during the work week on short notice. Many leftists bussed in for events like this are on the dole already, so they have no commitments to break, while many of us cannot get time off one a one or two day notice. They count on this, which is why they never schedule for a weekend.

Jorg Nysgerrig
March 29, 2014, 04:32 PM
which is why they never schedule for a weekend.
The governor and the legislature are there Monday-Friday. Why would you schedule an event like this when no one was at the capitol? Seems like common sense to hold it during the week rather than some leftist plot to keep hard-working patriots from being able to attend.

87jeep
March 29, 2014, 07:02 PM
In AZ we are members of AzCDL, 10,000 strong with 2 top flight lobbyists. Formed in 2005 it has changed the landscape in AZ from a restricted state to the most free state for firearms. And one of the safest states IMHO :neener:

hso
March 30, 2014, 06:31 PM
The date has passed and there's no news on how things went so we might as well let this one fall off the page.

If anyone has a report of facts on the pro-2A response just PM me.

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