problem with see through rings on marlin 336


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Mendicant Triode
March 26, 2014, 01:29 AM
im setting up my girlfriend's father's marlin 336 he purchased back in the 80's with a scope, we ordered a set of see through rings for it made by millet, and the mounting screws are HUGE compared to the ones that are plugging the tapped holes in the receiver. Are the screws larger on newer marlins? the holes tapped in the receiver seem just slightly larger in diameter than the ones on my 98 mauser. the ones that come with the mount seem to be countersunk #6 (6-40 i beleive). any help would be appreciated.


these are the scope mounts we ordered:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003QWNB14/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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jmr40
March 26, 2014, 10:35 AM
Do yourself and your girlfriend a huge favor and return the see-thru mounts. I cannot think of a worse mounting system. They make it all but impossible to use the scope properly or use irons.

Mount the scope conventionally in some quick detachable mounts if you want to use irons. A low powered 1-4X scope mounted low will be faster and easier to use up close when set on 1X than irons, and on 4X will give all the magnification you can use. I've NEVER had a quality scope let me down, I have had iron sights fail or break. Personally I trust the glass more and would use conventional Weaver style mounts and just forget about the irons. But QD's will allow the scope to come off in seconds to use irons it you feel the need. Much better option than see-thru's.

jimmyraythomason
March 26, 2014, 03:14 PM
That's some good advice from jmr40. I recommend you heed it....you'll be glad you did.

stiab
March 26, 2014, 10:38 PM
That's some good advice from jmr40.
Yes it is. If you use the see thru mounts it will detract from the looks of the gun, the resale value, and the functionallity. Plus, the scope will be mounted too high. Weaver quick detachables are great, easy on and off without loosing zero.

herrwalther
March 27, 2014, 05:17 AM
My brother installed see through rings on his 10/22 that he ended up giving to me. First thing I did was get rid of them. I would recommend the same thing.

gamestalker
March 27, 2014, 04:15 PM
I thought I was going to get the best of both world when I put see thru rings on my high powered rifle back in the 80's, not! It pretty much eliminates any practical use of the scope, due to the excessive height off the barrel. Also, when you mount a scope that high with so little support to the frame work, you loose the necessary solid mounting system necessary with glass, in other words, it will never hold zero. Decide whether you want iron's or glass, both just isn't the way to go.

GS

hoghunting
March 28, 2014, 01:05 AM
I also agree with dumping the see through mounts as they are not the best of both worlds, they don't work well for either.

The 336 has been drilled and tapped for the 8-40 screws for years.

stringnut
March 28, 2014, 05:35 AM
As already said dump the see thru mounts. Having the scope too high gives the stock a running start at your cheek. This can be like being smacked a good one with a closed fist. Low power scope mounted to fit the shooter will be faster than any open or aperature sight. Should be able to mount the rifle with your eyes closed and then open them and see thru the scope. If not something is wrong with the set up. I have shot running deer as close as 30 feet with a6x scope and have had no problems.

jaguarxk120
March 28, 2014, 08:37 AM
Do what jmr40 has said the see-thru mounts were made for only one reason.

To line some one's pockets with your cash.

Mendicant Triode
March 29, 2014, 12:25 AM
He ended up getting the proper screws locally, and has a 50mm scope mounted and is happy with it so far. He was dead-set on see through mounts and that's what we tried to set him up with. I have a vintage steel Weaver KV mounted via see throughs on my m43 spanish 98 mauser and have always been super happy with them. I can shoot very well (same hole groups at 100yds with handloads) and use my irons up close just fine. I know people have there own opinions on such mounts, and i tried to talk him into a low-zoom adjustable scope for his rifle, but he was determined to use the set up with see throughs. The funny thing is that the scope just barely clears the barrel, even with the super high mounts.

Elkins45
March 29, 2014, 08:56 AM
The funny thing is that the scope just barely clears the barrel, even with the super high mounts.

Then how does he see the irons?

Mendicant Triode
March 29, 2014, 04:41 PM
Then how does he see the irons?
just clears enough to use the irons, i should say. he is happy with the setup, so we shall see how he does at the range here in a couple weeks.

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