How do you answer The Big Question? ("Why?")


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Average Guy
February 5, 2003, 02:44 PM
A couple of years ago, when I had my Utah CCW app notarized at a local shop, the woman behind the counter asked, "Why do you need a concealed weapons permit?" Last week I took a polygraph exam and the witch doctor--I mean, polygrapher--also asked why I had applied for a CCW in Utah.

My answers were pretty weak (I suppose I should have expected, and been prepared, just in case--Verbal Condition Orange?). It's one thing to support a position (and even carry in support of said position), but when asked WHY, and put on the spot, I have a tough time answering "in 25 words or less." ("Please give me your address and I'll mail you a comprehensive essay...")

Just wondering what short, pithy answer(s) you might give when asked why you have (or "need") a CCW.

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Mike Irwin
February 5, 2003, 02:46 PM
I'll either not answer the question, or simply ask "Why not?"

Or, if they seem like they're actually looking for a real answer, instead of an avenue by which to launch an anti-gun tirade, I may answer "Because it's not the job of the police to provide for my security 24x7. It's my responsibility."

Riphalman
February 5, 2003, 03:30 PM
I generally feel that it's no one else's business but my own, and the folks who know me well already know why. However, the few times I've been inclined to share the reason with other folks, it goes just like this......BECAUSE NOT ALL MEN ARE FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF BROTHERLY LOVE.

foghornl
February 5, 2003, 03:34 PM
WHY ?

Because I know that there is the "element of society" that cares nothing for the sanctity of life, and would gladly stomp both of us to death for nothing more than a few dollars, some cold beer, or their next drug fix.

DJJ
February 5, 2003, 03:38 PM
Aren't polygraph tests supposed to consist entirely of yes-or-no questions? In that case the answer is, "Is this part of the test?"

hutch24
February 5, 2003, 03:43 PM
Because I can't afford bodyguards. :D

pizzaaguy
February 5, 2003, 03:46 PM
It is my God-given right to protect and defend
myself and my family. Florida gives me the means
by which I can offer defense with a firearm.

also...

The bad guys have weapons. Why shouldn't the
law abiding citizens have them?

Double Maduro
February 5, 2003, 03:48 PM
There is only one answer to any "why" question---"because".

The answer I give is "for personal protection and recreation".

10-Ring
February 5, 2003, 03:50 PM
My answer, "For the protection of myself & my family."

ChristopherG
February 5, 2003, 03:57 PM
My guardian angel died.

Leatherneck
February 5, 2003, 04:01 PM
"It's a dangerous and uncertain world out there, containing bad guys who don't obey laws or rules of civilazation."

TC
TFL Survivor

Airwolf
February 5, 2003, 04:12 PM
Mike nailed it for me:

"Because it's not the job of the police to provide for my security 24x7. It's my responsibility."

"It's my responsibility" says it all. A strange concept to many, many people in the world today, is it not?

answerguy
February 5, 2003, 04:24 PM
Is Utah a may issue or a shall issue state? If it is a shall issue it makes even less sense to ask this question. It seems to me like a LEO pulling you over and asking "Where are you going?" i.e. they are just trying to feel you out.

Ed N.
February 5, 2003, 04:28 PM
Well, my answer depends on my perception of the person asking.

If they seem like a reasonable sort, just curious, honestly looking for a real answer, I can say something like, "Have you followed the local news lately?" The response is often, "Yeah, I guess I see what you mean."

If they seem like a psyco-babbling, tree hugging, left wing bliss ninny, I might say, "Because I'm sexually dysfunctional, poorly endowed, and this helps make up for my dreadful feelings of inadequacy." That seems to shock 'em enough that there's no further discussion.

Fortunately in Florida, I never have to answer such silly questions for the Government.

Viking6
February 5, 2003, 04:32 PM
I started to say the same reason that I have car insurance, house insurance, etc. but those are required and Life insurance is a given, you WILL die. It's not a known fact outside of family and some friends, but for them I say it gives me options. I carry around 75% of the time away from work but most times even my family doesn't know.

TheOtherOne
February 5, 2003, 04:49 PM
Is Utah a may issue or a shall issue state? If it is a shall issue it makes even less sense to ask this question. It seems to me like a LEO pulling you over and asking "Where are you going?" i.e. they are just trying to feel you out.Shall Issue and it's rather easy to get a non-resident permit also.

When you mail in the paperwork for your permit, you have to have your signature notarized. It sounds like he was in Cali when he had it notarized.

BerettaNut92
February 5, 2003, 04:50 PM
Avid shooter, I travel to and from the range between 1 to 3 times a week with at least two firearms, averaging $1100 each.

Country Boy
February 5, 2003, 04:58 PM
If somebody came in here right now with intent to cause bodily harm, what would you do?
At least I have options.

I carry a gun for the same reason I wear a seatbelt: I never know when trouble will occur.

BogBabe
February 5, 2003, 05:06 PM
"Why do I need a concealed weapons permit?"

Because I can't legally carry my gun around with me without one.

rock jock
February 5, 2003, 06:43 PM
When I tell people that it is for my personal protection, I am often told that the chances of me needing a gun to defend my life is remote. So, I usually ask the person if they wear a seatbelt. If they reply in the affirmative, I ask if they have ever been in a serious car accident. The answer is usually "no" (minor fender benders don't really count since serious injury was usually not a consideration). I reply:

"So, you have been driving for __ years, and given that you probably either drive or are a passenger in a car five or more times per day (that's probably about average if you think about going to and from work, to and from lunch, and an errand or two every couple of days), that's approximately 2,000 car trips per year, and ____ car trips since you began driving. Add in the number of car trips you took before you began driving and, over your lifetime, that's about ____ number of times you were potentially at risk for being in a serious car accident, and yet, you still continue to wear your seatbelt. WHY??"

As an illustration, for someone that is 35 years old, you can reasonably assume that they have taken about 60-70K car trips in their lifetime.

Blackhawk
February 5, 2003, 07:14 PM
It's my right.

k say
February 5, 2003, 07:27 PM
if you have to ask, you wouldn't understand

dairycreek
February 5, 2003, 07:51 PM
Because I feel a deep and personal responsibility to be in a position to protect/defend myself and my family whenever the occasion might arise.

Boats
February 5, 2003, 08:47 PM
Actually, the main reason I got one was to be excepted from the stupid transport laws on my trips back and forth to the range. Used to have to have ammo seperated from firearm and not in reach in case I got pulled over. Now? Cocked and locked on my belt with my CCL behind my DL.

So I got it because it was convenient and I didn't need an excuse anymore when Oregon went "shall issue."

Oh, that and DeShaney v. Winnebago Cty., the most prominent SCOTUS case that says the state is under no positive duty to protect you from harm, even if they know about it in advance or the harm is imminent absent a special relationship, (in custody).

Oddly enough for you Oregonians out there is a case I believe called Oregon Shooting Assoc. v. Multnomah County wherein the Court of Appeals actually ruled that the citizens of this state do not have the right to own magazine fed semi-automatic firearms because they had no equivalent in 1859. As it stands, it seems that you are only entitled, by right, to own without question side-by-side shotguns, wheelguns, and at most, lever action rifles. Thank God for Samuel Colt and for the Volcanic Repeating Rifle or there wouldn't even have been the right to the descendents of those. The Oregon Supreme Court denied review, and AFAIK, this is the current state of Article 1, Section 27 jurisprudence under the Oregon Consitution.

Standing Wolf
February 5, 2003, 09:00 PM
I carry concealed firearms because it's my right and my life and property are worth defending.

HABU
February 5, 2003, 09:02 PM
What was the purpose of the polygraph?

Oracle
February 5, 2003, 09:16 PM
In Georgia, they don't ask you why you want the permit. They just give you the forms and tell you to go see the deputy to get fingerprinted. It's assumed that everyone has a good reason, namely, the right to keep and bear arms :).

Mark Benningfield
February 6, 2003, 12:39 AM
Hello All.

I reply with the question, "Do you vote?" When they (usually) say yes, I hit 'em with "Why?" Those with even minimal brains will usually catch on, and I really don't worry about those that don't.

Drjones
February 6, 2003, 12:53 AM
I think the best way to answer that question is with another much more profoundly important question:

"Why do you think it is not your responsibility to protect your own life?"


I've been posting this link a lot: http://www.rkba.org/comment/cowards.html

Pretty much covers all the major aspects of why I own and carry firearms.

Zundfolge
February 6, 2003, 01:18 AM
Same reason there's a fire extinguisher in my kitchen and garage
Same reason I wear my seat belt
Same reason there's a tool kit in the trunk of my car
Same reason I put on sun block at the beach
Same reason I buy life insurance, health insurance, full coverage car insurance, home owner's insurance, etc.
Same reason I get a yearly checkup at doctor and dentist
Same reason I put a little money away in savings
Same reason I watch what I eat
Same reason I don't ask armed people intrusive, personal questions
;)

WilderBill
February 6, 2003, 01:36 AM
Same answer I would give if asked "why own a gun?"

It's better to have it and not really need it, than to really need it and not have it!

Citadel99
February 6, 2003, 07:33 AM
Because we live in a world in which evil exists. And it doesn't just show itself in the vicinity of police officers. It enters the workplace, the home, and even your churches without a moments notice. My life, the lives of my family, and the lives of my close friends are of the utmost importance to me. That's why.

Mark

Blackcloud6
February 6, 2003, 07:38 AM
"Mind your own business," is my general reply to any gun question from any of the sheep.

Country Boy
February 6, 2003, 08:59 AM
Because I love people.
That was Beren's answer in another thread. Said that it tended to short circuit the soccer-moms. I like it!

Carbon_15
February 6, 2003, 09:47 AM
I asked this question over at TFl a while back and got some wonderful answers...but I can't find the thread now. If anyone can find it, a link would be greatly apreciated.


My wife always used to ask me "do you really think you are going to NEED a gun just to go get some milk?" "No, but if I thought I would need a gun, I would stay at home...do you put on your setbelt only when you think you are going to get into a wreck?

anchored
February 6, 2003, 09:50 AM
I would point out that "why?" is not an appropriate question and say I don't feel I need to justify exercising my rights. I speak freely because I want to, I go to church because I want to, I vote because I want to and I carry because I want to.

P12
February 6, 2003, 11:42 AM
I choose to accept responsibility for my own safety.

"Why do you think it is not your responsibility to protect your own life?" I like that one!

trvlr905
February 6, 2003, 11:56 AM
I like the simple answer, "Because I can." I remember seeing in a post somewhere in these forums about avoiding a job move to a state with a weak RKBA movement. I'm up for transfer this summer, and the only thing I told my detailer was "Think hot and muggy."

Country Boy
February 6, 2003, 12:04 PM
A few TFL links.

What is the Difference Between a Pacifist and a Victim (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=114528)
They had secret service protection, but carried anyway. (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=140590)
Steve Camp's Article (http://www.tsra.com/LEOdir5.htm)
What prompted you to get your CCW? (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103817)
Just Another Man essay (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139453)

12GA
February 6, 2003, 12:05 PM
I think it was David Crosby who replied simply "John Lennon" when asked why.

HS/LD
February 6, 2003, 12:23 PM
Mr HS/LD why do you carry a concealed weapon?

For lawful protection of my person or another's person or property.

Regards,
HS/LD

BigG
February 6, 2003, 12:36 PM
Why not quote J. B. Books? Creed of J. B. Books (http://www.epinions.com/mvie-review-5C49-2FD26E01-3A539674-prod2)

one-shot-one
February 6, 2003, 03:38 PM
TRVLR905 took my answer:
because i can...

45-auto
February 6, 2003, 08:52 PM
I've never been asked, but if I ever am, the answer now will be:

"For the same reason I always wear my seatbelt. You just never know. . ."

Thanks to whoever offered that one first.

Actually, it's pathetic that we have people around who would ask that question. Come the big cataclysm, they'll all be dead or stripped, beaten, used, worked hard and driven across the land like beasts.

agony
February 6, 2003, 09:06 PM
Because many Americans died protecting the freedoms the United States of America affords to it's citizens. Why waste that gift?

labgrade
February 6, 2003, 09:08 PM
Quick scan & I've never been asked. I tend to surround myself with those who already know the answer.

I mayhap just give a whistful scan towards the beautific until the questioner decides it's no longer worth the "trouble."

BOBE
February 6, 2003, 09:27 PM
Answer: There are people who have no regard for my peaceful existance, nor yours. I have made my choice about how to deal with that fact. It is up to you to make your own choices. Bye the way what are they??? This at least should start their thought processes on the subject!:eek:

ojibweindian
February 6, 2003, 09:37 PM
Answer: because it is my responibility to protect my family.

TexasVet
February 6, 2003, 10:36 PM
It seems to me like a LEO pulling you over and asking "Where are you going?"
---------------------------------------------------
Picture me pointing straight over the hood and saying "That way.":D

Guy B. Meredith
February 6, 2003, 10:41 PM
Try "Why not?".

Matt G
February 6, 2003, 10:54 PM
"Because it's easier to put up with the tedium of obtaining a permit and of carrying concealed than to deal with the possible aftermath, should I need it and not have it."

Tamara
February 6, 2003, 11:05 PM
"Why do you carry a gun?"
"Why do you feel it necessary to ask that question?"

SodaPop
February 6, 2003, 11:14 PM
I've have my 15minutes of fame TWICE for being in confrontations with violent criminals. Both times it was all over the Phildelphia news for weeks. Everyone and their dog knows why I believe in owning guns. My attitude on assualt rifles changed after the first incedent and my attitude about CCW was changed after the second.

I was nieve.

:(

4thHorseman
February 7, 2003, 01:28 AM
"My guardian angel died".- ChristopherG

Hey, I like that....Maybe you can also say, "My guardian angel died in a drive by shooting".:D :D :D

beckrodgers
February 8, 2003, 10:46 AM
hi, my name is bobby. I live in TN. Thanks Becky for posting this for me.
Why conceal carry? Answer: I'll try to keep this reasonable. I've been carrying since I was 18. I'm 43, no permit. I guess the best answer would be, "well, I'm gonna carry and it's the law to be taxed, documented, marked, discriminated against, regulated, etc, etc, etc. This has been one of my most thought about subjects in my life. I believe it all boils down to confiscation. All the arguments and laws that are against the original US Constitution, (or common sense) are null and void. There's just too much chaff and distraction on this simple subject. I believe that I should not be taxed or regulated or infringed on this one
God-given right and responsibility. We all should just say NO!! AW ban, CCW etc, etc. Until we do, we are all gonna keep paying a heftyier and heavy price until we can't pay no more. Bottom line is, it's the law to have a permit to carry "that's your answer". Thanks for letting me post this. Semper Fi, Bobby

Sam
February 8, 2003, 11:03 AM
Because I do not trust you.
Sam

Selfdfenz
February 8, 2003, 11:11 AM
My reason is my THR handle.

waterdog
February 8, 2003, 11:23 AM
Why?

Because, I chose NOT to be a victim.

Besides, my PRIVELAGE (permitted CCW is not a right) to carry concealed, supercedes your need to know.

waterdog

XLMiguel
February 8, 2003, 11:36 AM
Why do you ask? If they seem sincere in the query, they get a polite answer, including:
For the same reason I have fire extinguishers in my home.
For the same reason I wear my seatbeat.
I was a Boy Scout. Ultimately, because I'm responsible for my own safety.

If they're snippy and/or condescending, I ask them why they don't, and then the fun begins.

T.Stahl
February 8, 2003, 05:07 PM
Why do you own guns?

Because I'm one of the good ones. Which means: I was raised by christian standards, I'm peaceful, I respect my fellow, I served to protect my country and my people (and still do, trained for it today), I'm an active blood donor and a potential organ donor (have to get registered for donation bone marrow soon), the last time I used brute force against someone was during my trip to Norway in 2000 (to help a bus driver), the second last time must have been in the late '80s.

And surprisingly it's the only argument no anti so far could counter. ;)

Drjones
February 10, 2003, 01:09 AM
hi, my name is bobby. I live in TN. Thanks Becky for posting this for me.
Why conceal carry? Answer: I'll try to keep this reasonable. I've been carrying since I was 18. I'm 43, no permit. I guess the best answer would be, "well, I'm gonna carry and it's the law to be taxed, documented, marked, discriminated against, regulated, etc, etc, etc. This has been one of my most thought about subjects in my life. I believe it all boils down to confiscation. All the arguments and laws that are against the original US Constitution, (or common sense) are null and void. There's just too much chaff and distraction on this simple subject. I believe that I should not be taxed or regulated or infringed on this one
God-given right and responsibility. We all should just say NO!! AW ban, CCW etc, etc. Until we do, we are all gonna keep paying a heftyier and heavy price until we can't pay no more. Bottom line is, it's the law to have a permit to carry "that's your answer". Thanks for letting me post this. Semper Fi, Bobby

Does anything else need to be said???

:D

Bobby for President!!!

Seawolf
February 10, 2003, 01:17 AM
Because it's my right to do so. Why do you vote?

Jedi_7.62
February 10, 2003, 02:54 AM
BECAUSE I CAN!!!!!

Kahr carrier
February 10, 2003, 02:58 AM
For protection and security.:)

rick458
February 10, 2003, 03:20 AM
I joined the Marines to protect Your Family, I got my permit to protect mine

w.Clark
February 11, 2003, 01:42 AM
just say, If a crazy man comes in here and I don't have a gun, How am I going to shoot him?

labgrade
February 23, 2003, 01:06 AM
Mike's initial "why not?" is as good as any.

That they are asking at all is an idication of things "not so well."

IMNSHO.

CZ-75
February 23, 2003, 01:22 AM
"Because I'm not a rich liberal who can afford bodyguards and a guilt trip."

CZ-75
February 23, 2003, 01:25 AM
T. Stahl,


the last time I used brute force against someone was during my trip to Norway in 2000 (to help a bus driver), the second last time must have been in the late '80s.


For the hell of it, could you give us details?

I'm interested in how Euros actually manage to defend themselves and not get jail time for it.

BerettaNut92
February 23, 2003, 01:43 AM
As amusing and cute these replies are, I don't think they will help Average Guy get a CCW. You can't just walk up and give a wise-guy answer and expect to be issued a CCW. Right or wrong, it's just not the prudent thing to do. It's easy for us to say 'It says so in the Constitution', but really doesn't help our friend much.

If you were serious about getting it, speak to others in your jurisdiction who have gotten them. See how they got theirs and see if you can make minor adjustments in your lifestyle to give yourself a fair shot.

CZ-75
February 23, 2003, 01:53 AM
As amusing and cute these replies are, I don't think they will help Average Guy get a CCW. You can't just walk up and give a wise-guy answer and expect to be issued a CCW. Right or wrong, it's just not the prudent thing to do. It's easy for us to say 'It says so in the Constitution', but really doesn't help our friend much.


Moot point, since he has had it for a few years, judging by his initial post.


Moreover, these replies aren't being tendered to authority figures, but to busybodies.

12.7x99mm
February 23, 2003, 05:01 AM
"Because I know that there is the "element of society" that cares nothing for the sanctity of life, and would gladly stomp both of us to death for nothing more than a few dollars, some cold beer, or their next drug fix."

After seeing this first hand, two times and having a family member murdered for 60 dollars and some cheap jewelry. I completely agree with what you said.

By the way the POS strangled her with a toaster cord. She was mentally disabled (Down Syndrome) Just started living alone at the age of 30 or so and she had a job. She was stalked and murdered.

She was a soft target. There is really no way I think she good have protected herself.

Humanity has good and evil. Ill be ready for the evil part of it.

Marshall
February 23, 2003, 08:54 AM
BogBabe
Because I can't legally carry my gun around with me without one.

Excellent answer!

David Scott
February 23, 2003, 09:18 AM
Easy question to answer. On the practical side, I can cite dozens of news reports in my area alone, of robberies and assaults and carjackings. Many were a success for the criminals. Others resulted in a citizen with a CCW permit stopping the crime and in some cases saving lives. It seems a simple equation to me. Unarmed people get robbed, raped, beaten up, killed. Armed people have the means to prevent this.

On the philosophical side, the right to self-defense is a necessary part of a civilized society. It predates the Constitution, it predates the Magna Carta. Self-defense has been accepted as justified use of force all the way back to the Egyptians, if not before. If you may not defend yourself against common criminals, you have anarchy. If you may not defend yourself against oppressors, you have tyranny.

Fortunately, I live in a "shall issue" state. I don't have to say why, the state has to say why not or issue the permit. In fact, the Florida CCW application says something like "I certify that I wish to carry a concealed weapon as a means of lawful self-defense". Period. Lawful self defense is clearly defined in the Florida Statues, and the CCW application comes with a copy of the relevant extracts, so I and the State both know what we're agreeing to.

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