Support a Museum gun range in Cody WY that is being blocked by anti-gunners


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Flechette
April 6, 2014, 03:38 PM
Paul Brock wants to put an indoor firing range next to a firearms museum in Cody, Wyoming. The museum board was initially supportive until anti-gunners voiced opposition. Museum has a board form all 50 states, and some are against such a project.

http://wbweb.sx.atl.publicus.com/article/20140404/NEWS/140409981

“Stowell said the city has received more than 40 emails from people opposed to the project with just a handful supporting it.”

Please email Todd and Paul and voice your support. Right now the anti-gunners have the advantage principally because not too may pro-gun people are even aware of this plan.

Cody's City Planner Todd Stowell
ToddS@cityofcody.com


Paul Brock is the director of operations at the Center of the West. The gun range is his idea:
paulb@centerofthewest.org

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rim
April 12, 2014, 05:01 PM
Wyoming??

alsaqr
April 12, 2014, 07:19 PM
IMO: The guy could not have picked a worse location for an indoor firing range.

The proposed indoor range is an existing building in the crowded downtown Cody historic district. It sits on .15 acre. The proposed range even shares a wall with another business.

http://wbweb.sx.atl.publicus.com/article/20140404/NEWS/140409981

http://www.kulr8.com/story/25105205/indoor-gun-range-proposal?clienttype=mobile

Everyone who opposes an indoor shooting range in a crowded downtown area is not an anti-gunner. If i owned a business close to that building i would oppose his firing range.

barnbwt
April 12, 2014, 11:24 PM
Hmmm, given the description of the location, it seems like putting together something as cool as a museum gun range may not be the best use of their (always) limited funding. Just think of all the renovations that would have to be done just to be eligible to pay for all of the permitting and insurance --even if everybody was on board.

A better use of the money might be to open another gun museum to help get folks informed and interested :cool:

TCB

hso
April 13, 2014, 04:35 PM
So here's the street and the proposed indoor range location is in the lower left.
You can retrofit an indoor range into an existing and meet all regulatory requirements. The cost is expensive and the operating costs are high as well if you're operating "downtown", but it is completely possible to control all concerns such that no one would even know what was being done in the building. If he wants to do this he should engage the National Shooting Sports Foundation indoor range consultants (http://www.nssf.org/ranges/) who can present to the city and residents what is done to have zero impact on the neighborhood. It is his responsibility to remove the concerns on noise and lead and NSSF can help him do this where a bunch of emails babbling about Antis won't help one bit.

OUR best course of action is to send emails pointing out that ALL new ranges have to meet state air quality permitting requirements and that local noise ordinances have to be complied with so there should be no concern on the part of the neighbors if the facility operates within those regulatory requirements. Add that the National Shooting Sports Federation provides support to firing ranges to help the owners/operators meet and exceed all requirements in even the most strict regulatory states and that they could certainly provide assistance to Mr. Brock to do this.

JSH1
April 15, 2014, 08:04 PM
OUR best course of action is to send emails....

I don't see how this is any of our business. If the people of Cody, Wyoming don't want an indoor gun range in their historical district that is up to the people of Cody to decide.

hso
April 16, 2014, 07:24 AM
The news pieces have pointed out that the board for the foundation is composed of people from outside the area/state. The "locals" in resort areas like Cody are also a mix of traditional Wyoming residents and people from outside who've moved into town. The basis for the economy is tourism and those folks are not locals.

The phrase "all politics is local" is a famously American concept that what matters in politics (national, state, or local) are the issues that matter to the people in the towns and countryside. 2A issues are national politics, but also local politics. The local decisions by local politicians are like blocks in a structure and if we don't understand that the Anti groups appreciate that interlocking blocks of Anti decisions on the local level builds a foundation for Anti national politics we face a national problem. The other complicating factor is that Anti propaganda to establish "facts" in peoples' minds across the country influences local opinions and local politics so we need to work to counter that as well. So, yeah, the locals in Cody should make the decisions about what they do and don't want in their town, but leaving the field to the Antis insures their victory and our defeat as in Colorado and across the country.

HOOfan_1
April 16, 2014, 10:47 AM
IMO: The guy could not have picked a worse location for an indoor firing range.

The proposed indoor range is an existing building in the crowded downtown Cody historic district. It sits on .15 acre. The proposed range even shares a wall with another business.
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Colonial Shooting Academy in Richmond is in a crowded area. There is a subdivision right behind the downrange areas...no one seems to care. Just build it correctly...

JSH1
April 17, 2014, 07:14 AM
The "locals" in resort areas like Cody are also a mix of traditional Wyoming residents and people from outside who've moved into town.

I doesn't matter if someone has lived in a town for decades or days they are residents and deserve equal representation in local government. This is a local zoning issue not a RTKBA issue.

hso
April 17, 2014, 12:33 PM
Good point.

Reading what's available on the internet about the specific case shows this is less an RKBA or 2A issue, and more a zoning and ill-informed concerned public question. Mr. Brock should make the effort to educate the neighbors and present a plan to the city showing the facility will be safe to the public and operated in a manner to ensure the safety of the community. Plenty of empty buildings have been retrofitted to indoor ranges and he can too.

Good read on the topic of retro to range - http://www.nssf.org/ranges/rangeresources/library/detail.cfm?filename=facility_mngmnt/design/range_and_biz.htm&CAT=Facility%20Management, http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2013/01/saginaws_ssp_associates_seeks.html, http://www.pomeradonews.com/2013/02/19/poway-council-to-review-plans-for-indoor-shooting-range/

CoalTrain49
June 5, 2014, 10:38 PM
I think that would be a decision for the folks that live in Cody. I've been to the museum twice and a gun range in down town seems like a pretty bad idea to me. Cody is a small town and there is plenty of room for that outside of the business district. They have a rodeo there also but that isn't in the business district either for obvious reasons.

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