Favorite 9mm Powders


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Hunterdad
April 15, 2014, 03:11 PM
I'm trying to get into reloading, but finding pistol powder locally is like trying to find unicorn tears on the black market.

I had a buddy of mine do up 1000 128g lead bullets for me. Now, all I need is a powder. What are some powders you guys like that are good for a beginner?

Any help is appreciated
Thanks
Adam

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Potatohead
April 15, 2014, 03:16 PM
Well, Im a newb myself and I like zip and 4756. 4756 is probably on the slower side of things but I like it. Kind of a gentle thumper.

As a beginner some might say to use the fluffy powders, so the case will overflow if you overcharge, Herco is a good one for that. These are just a few of many that will work.

Most folks right now are happy with just about anything that works, because of the supply situation, I know I am.

Hangingrock
April 15, 2014, 03:20 PM
W231 or AutoComp both Winchester brands

jamrock
April 15, 2014, 03:25 PM
I'm fairly new to reloading.

Unique because its fluffy and will overflow in 9mm case. Good luck finding it though.

ddc
April 15, 2014, 03:27 PM
I'm fairly new also. I've used:
Winchester Super Field
Ramshot True Blue
Ramshot Silhouette
All three are typically mentioned with respect to 9mm loads.

In addition to the ones already mentioned, others I see mentioned frequently for 9mm:
Ramshot Zip
Universal
Accurate 2
Accurate 5
Accurate 7
Winchester Super Target
There are plenty of others which will shortly be listed I'm sure.

At this point I'd grab a load manual or two and take it with me when I shop and if you find a powder which has a 9mm load listed I'd probably buy it because it won't be there the next day.

Potatohead
April 15, 2014, 03:36 PM
DDC is right, if itll load 9, you better grab it.

Plus one to Auto Comp also..

Ive used: 800x, Herco, zip, HP38, 4756,7625, Bullseye, AutoComp, and Amer Sel.

Steve C
April 15, 2014, 03:38 PM
I burn anything with available data. Have used Unique, Power Pistol, Red Dot, Green Dot, Blue Dot, Herco, AA7, HS6, all of which will work. Of these I prefer Unique for any serious loadings with Power Pistol a close second for JHP bullets in the 115 to 125 gr range. For 147gr its slower powder loads with HS6 or Blue Dot. For LRN at modest velocities to be shot at paper any of the faster powders do well, I'm currently using mostly Green Dot.

chiltech500
April 15, 2014, 03:45 PM
+1 on Green Dot and Red Dot because I have seen them available. They are a bit challenging to meter consistently.

Schwing
April 15, 2014, 03:53 PM
I use a lot of promo. You can use the same data as red dot as long as you measure by weight and not volume. It has also been available here and there.

My 2 favorite powders for 9mm are unique and bullseye but those are pretty rare these days.

theslasher
April 15, 2014, 03:54 PM
Titegroup!

klcmschlesinger
April 15, 2014, 03:59 PM
700X

zxcvbob
April 15, 2014, 04:07 PM
I'm trying to get into reloading, but finding pistol powder locally is like trying to find unicorn tears on the black market.


Why don't you list the powders you can get, and we'll pick a couple?

I really like Bullseye with cast bullets, and I load them hot. Green Dot or Promo for light target loads, especially with light bullets. (I don't like Titegroup in general, but it should work just as well as the Green Dot but will smoke more.)

Unique or WSF for full-power loads, and Power Pistol or AA#7 for hot loads with jacketed bullets.

Catpop
April 15, 2014, 04:20 PM
Rd, BE, WIN231 all good, Good reloading, Catpop

Hunterdad
April 15, 2014, 04:35 PM
Why don't you list the powders you can get, and we'll pick a couple?

That's just it. There is no constant flow of powder in the area. There is 1 place selling it at $60/1lb, which I refuse to pay. The places that do get some in occasionally don't have it out. It's in back and they hand you a list of what they have. That's why I posted up here, so I can get a list together to bring with me.

klcmschlesinger
April 15, 2014, 04:38 PM
$20 a pound is a good deal around here. $19.99 is the price for 14oz of 700X, most everything else is $22-$27 a pound.

Hunterdad
April 15, 2014, 04:43 PM
Sorry, meant to type $60/lb

Glocktogo
April 15, 2014, 04:45 PM
TiteGroup for jacketed loads and WST for lead, particularly in 147gr.

klcmschlesinger
April 15, 2014, 04:46 PM
WOW!!! $60 a pound, that is a bummer!! Good luck with your search. Pretty much everything these guys are saying is right on the money. Anything they have listed will work.

jwrowland77
April 15, 2014, 04:57 PM
My favorites are Autocomp, Titegroup, Unique and Universal.

tightgroup tiger
April 15, 2014, 06:22 PM
No one has mentioned Power Pistol yet, it was designed for 9mm and 40S&W specifically.

jwrowland77
April 15, 2014, 06:23 PM
I might have to find some and try it out

Mohave-Tec
April 15, 2014, 06:30 PM
I use nothing but Winchester Action Pistol. Lol

OrangePwrx9
April 15, 2014, 06:49 PM
Don't forget PB. Not one of the 'in' powders, but one that worked very well in my BHP. Not only would it group good on paper, but it also grouped the ejected cases.

If you stick with shotgun powders like Red Dot or Promo, you may find some for sale at a local gun club where they shoot a lot of clays. They usually buy in quantity to provide their members with powder. With a suitable hard-luck story they might be persuaded to part with a pound or two. You wouldn't need much to load 1000 rounds.

kcofohio
April 15, 2014, 07:06 PM
If I only had 1 powder, it would be Ramshot's Silhouette.

Starter52
April 15, 2014, 07:35 PM
I use nothing but Red Dot in my 9mm loads. Even when other powders are available, I stick with Red Dot.

LKLive13
April 15, 2014, 07:48 PM
I have loaded Longshot, WSF, SR 7625, and unique in 9mm and like them all. I like the 7625 and WSF the best. I started out with longshot and its pretty common around here versus unique and WSF. When I started out, I bought a pound of each when I could find them so that I could get a feel for what I liked, now I pick up a pound of those when I see them. That way I always have a pound of something I know I can load in 9mm. SR 7625 is a really universal handgun powder and I really like it so I might be inclined to pay up to $40 a pound for it. WSF is a super good powder too but its about like finding unicorn tears around here. We have Longshot coming out our ears around here. In all likelihood you will have to settle on a shotgun powder and pay a premium(around $40) if you want to reload. It might help if you order a large quantity from an online supplier and eat the Haz-Mat fee... Sorry for my rant... hope it was of some help at least.

cfullgraf
April 15, 2014, 07:56 PM
I discovered True Blue during the 2009 shortages and liked it.

I have used Unique and Blue Dot.

I have Accurate 5 in inventory and would use it in a heartbeat if I ran out of the others.

But, you pretty much cannot go wrong with all the powders listed.

777TRUTH
April 15, 2014, 08:02 PM
In order of preference I like

1. HP-38 - W231
2. Bullseye
3. Accurate #5
4. Power Pistol

Mohave-Tec
April 15, 2014, 09:41 PM
I hear ya kcofohio. I use WAP in all my pistol powders. I've got 4 or 5 bottles of Titegroup but have never worked up a load for it. I'm still hacking away at the WAP...which is Silhouette.

HexHead
April 15, 2014, 10:29 PM
231, I have about 8 lbs of it. I also use WSF and have used Titegroup.

gojuice101
April 15, 2014, 10:54 PM
I use HP-38 and 700-x for both 9mm Luger and 9mm Makarov, mainly because that was what I could find when I got into loading those calibers. I like them because of the way they shoot, but neither one of them meter very consistently at all. At least not in my powder measure. Definitely slows down the reloading process.

I haven't ventured into other powders for those calibers because I have a bunch of this on hand, and it is difficult to find any other powders (or any powder at all) around here.

Dudedog
April 15, 2014, 10:56 PM
I have not ever found any 231 to try but I have used
in order of preference with MBC 124 lead cone
Universal Clays (favorite-none around at all, meters great for me, clean) 3.8-4
7625 (meters well, clean) 3.9
Unique (meters ok not great, not as clean as Universal) 4.3
4756 (meters well) 4.4
Autocomp (meters ok, better than Unique) 4.5
Longshot (loud, nice muzzle blast:eek:, meters ok about the same as Unique, dirty at lower charge weights)
5.3-5.5

Longshot prefers to be loaded on the med-heavy side.


all have worked ok for me once I had them dialed in.
Universal + Unique both seemed to work well, light, med, and heavy.
I normally load my 9 for around 1020ish fps since the paper targets I shoot don't know any difference, not trying to load to a number but loads that work well for me seem to fall around there.
I would give longshot a + if you want to load to load on the heavy side.

Having said that grab what you can when you can if there are listed loads for it.
IMO if you are not after super light or super heavy (MAX) 9 is forgiving about powders that fall in the burn range of the ones above.

Have not had a chance to try the lb of Bullseye I found the other day at a LGS.

It is faster than I am used to using but it should be interesting to try something on the faster side.

Universal and Unique will work in just about any handgun cartridge, maybe not the best, or the best vel, but very flexible. (9Mak, 9 Luger, .38, .357, .45 APC)

Bartojc
April 16, 2014, 10:31 AM
Yeah, you aer going about it the right way. Build a list and buy whats available. You have to right now, at least around here. I haven't seen pistol powder on a shelf in months until a week or do ago saw some Clays.

I have a friend that reloads in huge volume. He set me up with some W231 and WSF. He wont shoot it so I " took it off his hands for him " :)

Good Luck

-Jeff

Dream of long range
April 16, 2014, 10:41 AM
I'm new to reloading as well and I started with vv n-330 and it works fine for me so I grabbed up two more pounds. I use berrys plated bullets so I don't know how they would work with lead bullets.

ssyoumans
April 16, 2014, 11:10 AM
In order of preference:
1) W231 / HP38, or their cousin Ramshot Zip
2) Unique
3) Power Pistol
4) Silhouette
5) True Blue
6) AA #5

herkyguy
April 16, 2014, 02:19 PM
800X works as well but meters horribly.

MSgtEgress
April 16, 2014, 03:42 PM
AA#5 or #7. I use nothing else. They are the cleanest burning of all I've used to include most of what has been mentioned before, and they meter superbly. You can use 5 for anything, lead, jacketed, target loads to self defense. #7 is for full power jacketed projo's only, use it for max velocities

sniper69
April 16, 2014, 05:20 PM
The powders I have for reloading 9mm and other pistol calibers are Unique, Bullseye, and IMR SR 4756. You can also go to most of the powder manufactures sites and see reloading data by caliber and that can help you in making a list of powders that will work.

I also have some powder I'm going to try to work up a load for 9mm with and that is Vihtavuori N3SH. From using google it seems people have used it for 9mm but are tight lipped about their "recipes".

Arkansas Paul
April 16, 2014, 05:34 PM
The great thing about 9mm is the variety of powders that will suffice.
I prefer W231/HP38 but if that's hard to find, I always have a few powders on the shelf that will work. We've started loading some shotshell lately as well and luckily most shotgun powder will double as pistol powder.

zxcvbob
April 16, 2014, 05:46 PM
Has anyone tried using Herco in 9mm? It should be about perfect -- EXCEPT it is so bulky I don't know if you can get a full charge in a 9mm case and still have room for the bullet. But being a flake powder, maybe that's okay.

ETXhiker
April 16, 2014, 05:47 PM
For range loads, I like Win 231, Green Dot, Unique. For full power, Sillhouette, True Blue, HS-6, AA#7, Power Pistol or Unique. If I could only have one powder on hand, it would be Unique.

Wreck-n-Crew
April 16, 2014, 06:16 PM
They are a bit challenging to meter consistently. I have no problems with Red Dot and it meters pretty consistent for me (within 0.1gr)...I have found Flake powders to be a little ore troublesome. YMMV

+3+4 on Red Dot. One pound will load 1600 plus 9mm rounds and for a fast powder it produces some good velocity without the higher pressure associated with many fast powders. Pretty consistent loads too.

Also like Autocomp, Unique, W231/HP-38 (same powder), and universal for med-max loads.

cfoodeat
April 16, 2014, 08:11 PM
Loading with Green dot right now as it is all I can find.

kc9aop
April 16, 2014, 08:18 PM
PowerPistol is really great to work with. Nice metering and you get a accurate round with plated projectiles. IMR SR7625 is my next favorite. Meters like a dream and produces a great round.

Lj1941
April 16, 2014, 08:22 PM
231/HP38 or Titegroup. I have also used Clays & ClayDot with Hodgdon Clays data. I see no difference between H Clays & Alliant ClayDot by weight. Alliant ClayDot is a little cheaper and sometimes easier to find.:evil:

MarkG35
April 16, 2014, 08:57 PM
Win 231 and Accurate#5(all I could find when I started) work well for me in aGlock19 and Kahr PM9.I load different weight projectile and powder for each firearm.

TfflHndn
April 16, 2014, 10:19 PM
I have used Herco in 9mm, and it does work very well. I also like the performance of Green Dot and Silhouette. Silhouette meters the best of the three on my set-up.

KingM
April 16, 2014, 10:48 PM
Instead of paying $60/lb buy it from Powder Valley. You can pay the hazmat for that & if you get a second can now your saving. Buy in bulk & save even more. Until people quit paying those stupid prices there is always going to be a problem.

Bullseye would be a safe bet.

303load
April 16, 2014, 10:55 PM
Check bass pro shops. Yesterday I got a lb of bullseye and a lb of blue dot for 24.99 each. Best wishes. I like unique one of the most versatile powders around.

AlliedArmory
April 17, 2014, 06:37 AM
I only reload 9mm and 45acp for pistol and only use W231 or HP38. I bought maybe 16# of it 2 years ago.

baddad06
April 17, 2014, 08:32 AM
1# Universal
2# SR7625
3# HP38

ArthurE
April 17, 2014, 11:23 AM
#1 VV 3N37
#2 HS6
#3 VV n340

Hunterdad
April 17, 2014, 12:50 PM
Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it.

I found some powder today locally and wasn't sure which one was best. Both are the same price at $35/lb. my choices are:

HP-38 or Winchester Super Field.

Which one would you guys recommend for a 128gr lead bullet?

sniper69
April 17, 2014, 01:09 PM
If you can get the HP38 I would go with that. You can check load data here for HP38. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol Winchester Super Field isn't listed but 231 and auto comp are listed.

cswpsi
April 17, 2014, 02:22 PM
Definitely the HP-38.

Otto
April 17, 2014, 02:29 PM
Definitely the HP-38.

Win 231 is much better....

cswpsi
April 17, 2014, 02:33 PM
Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it.

I found some powder today locally and wasn't sure which one was best. Both are the same price at $35/lb. my choices are:

HP-38 or Winchester Super Field.

Which one would you guys recommend for a 128gr lead bullet?

Perhaps, but OP said the only two available are HP-38 and WSF.

Comrade Mike
April 17, 2014, 04:39 PM
Win 231 is much better....


You're joking right?

baddad06
April 17, 2014, 06:34 PM
HP-38 over WSF for sure much less recoil

Blue68f100
April 17, 2014, 08:04 PM
Either one will work but my preference has been WSF for 9mm. I find that it's not near as snappy. I mainly shoot 4.8gr WSF for 124gr RN. Both powders will meter very well being ball powder.

Wreck-n-Crew
April 17, 2014, 09:02 PM
Definitely the HP-38.
Win 231 is much better.... Ummmm.....well...same powder!:confused:

HP-38/W231 is cleaner IMO. WSF does get cleaner when fully charged, but still not as clean. I would go with the HP-38 as well.

Dudedog
April 25, 2014, 12:13 AM
Don't stress on the decision, make life easy on yourself, buy one of each!:D

HOWARD J
April 26, 2014, 12:40 AM
I HAVE BEEN USING
W-231
Power Pistol
Unique
I have not seen any of these in stores for about a year.
When I run out I will have to go to bullseye, HS-6
I have 3000 reloaded---should be good for a while

TenDriver
April 26, 2014, 03:03 AM
Congrats on the 231. It's about as rare as an honest politician these days.

I've loaded with Titegroup, Bullseye and 700X. Titegroup and Bullseye work the best for me, but I discovered one or the other is pretty dirty when I plunk tested some new handloads tonight. It's still a good powder though.

Bovice
April 26, 2014, 03:32 PM
I like Universal, but I can't find any of it.

Potatohead
April 26, 2014, 06:14 PM
Congrats on the 231. It's about as rare as an honest politician these days.

I've loaded with Titegroup, Bullseye and 700X. Titegroup and Bullseye work the best for me, but I discovered one or the other is pretty dirty when I plunk tested some new handloads tonight. It's still a good powder though.
May be the BE. BE leaves my cases sooty as all get out, thats for sure.



Tendriver,
JCs got a pretty good bit of IMR 4895, TrailBoss, ImR 3031, and 4064 in..Also some others that I dont really know much about, but he had a better supply than Ive seen him have in a while..

PistolPete45
April 26, 2014, 06:27 PM
What is available .. I found some blue dot and it works great same with Unique . Bullseye I almost out of >>I need to make a list from my reloading books and go to the next gun show . Some of the powders are dirtier and that is no big real .

TenDriver
April 26, 2014, 09:01 PM
May be the BE. BE leaves my cases sooty as all get out, thats for sure.



Tendriver,
JCs got a pretty good bit of IMR 4895, TrailBoss, ImR 3031, and 4064 in..Also some others that I dont really know much about, but he had a better supply than Ive seen him have in a while..


Thanks. Just went in there today with an empty wallet. Almost threw that 9oz bottle Trailboss on the credit card, and I like to get an lb of 4064 when I can, but had to refrain today.

303load
April 27, 2014, 10:13 PM
Thanks. Just went in there today with an empty wallet. Almost threw that 9oz bottle Trailboss on the credit card, and I like to get an lb of 4064 when I can, but had to refrain today.

4064 in a 9mm. Really. How much in a plated 115 GN?

303load
April 27, 2014, 11:08 PM
True blue runs nice thru an LC9

Arkansas Paul
April 28, 2014, 12:43 AM
You're right Otto, W231 is much better than HP38.
And W296 is much better than H110.
And W760 is much better than H414.

I think it must be the 'W' that makes them so good. :evil:

TenDriver
April 28, 2014, 01:12 AM
4064 in a 9mm. Really. How much in a plated 115 GN?


Nope. No 4064 in the 9mm. I load for my M1 with it.

Potatohead
April 28, 2014, 05:08 PM
4064 in a 9mm. Really. How much in a plated 115 GN?
4064 in 223 for me. Sorry for the temporary hijack.

303load
April 29, 2014, 12:54 AM
Hijack.... Ok varget in 223 ain't bad reckon

1SOW
April 29, 2014, 02:39 AM
9mm Luger
HP-38/Win231
IMR 7625
VVn320/330/340
AA#5
WSF
Red Dot
Green Dot
and many other slower powders for hotter loads

K0ZZZ
April 29, 2014, 01:43 PM
I use W231/HP-38 across the board, for 380, 38spc, 9mm, and 45.

mjbike
April 29, 2014, 11:11 PM
American Select

jcwit
April 29, 2014, 11:41 PM
Currently using VecTan Ao powder. No longer available here in the states.

ol' scratch
April 30, 2014, 09:32 AM
Bullseye is my favorite 9mm powder.

Potatohead
April 30, 2014, 02:27 PM
That BE is the dirty dirty- in my gun with my little cocktail of components anyway. Dont know if Im not running it hot enough or what..fairly accurate though.

2 cheers for Amer Sel also!

carbuncle
April 30, 2014, 02:54 PM
I like Winchester 231/ Hogdon HP-38 (they are the same powder wih different labels), meters well with my Lee equipment and is part of a bery accurate load recipe for me.

303load
April 30, 2014, 03:51 PM
I like BE in the 45

303load
April 30, 2014, 03:53 PM
Wish I could get some 231

stubbicatt
April 30, 2014, 05:43 PM
I like Longshot. Good all around powder which gives pretty stellar performance in the 9

ohioshooter
May 1, 2014, 05:36 PM
i use universal for all my 9, 40, and 45

LBEE
May 1, 2014, 06:10 PM
My favorite Powder for the 9MM is Ramshot Silouette over all I've ever tried. I load for my Glock 19 burns Clean.

303load
May 2, 2014, 09:00 AM
I like Longshot. Good all around powder which gives pretty stellar performance in the 9

Have not loaded longshot in 9. Very pleased with it in 40 cal. Gonna try it. Thanks and best wishes.

DudeRick
May 2, 2014, 10:24 AM
Unique

303load
May 3, 2014, 10:07 AM
Used unique when it was all I had. Done well. Little but dirtier than others.

Sauer Grapes
May 3, 2014, 11:23 PM
American Select

Where are you getting data for that in 9mm? I've used it in 40 and 45, never found listing for 9mm. Home brew?

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