deer gun's tradition or modern


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cammogunner
April 15, 2014, 08:41 PM
hey guys i have thought a lot about this subject and want your opinions..first thing first my definition of modern..ar-15..ar10 ..ect..and for the the more traditional guns like the 30 30 levergun the ol bolt action 06 a good oldfashioned shotgun with a simple slug..btw if you guys have any more rifles you want to add to any catagorie..or argue..er debate on the subject at hand:D

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ColtPythonElite
April 15, 2014, 08:44 PM
Traditional for me.

rcmodel
April 15, 2014, 09:01 PM
+1

Traditional ALL the way to the freezer.

rc

LUCKYDAWG13
April 15, 2014, 09:07 PM
i have shot more deer with a muzzleloader so traditionnel for me

Bruce Hanson
April 15, 2014, 09:08 PM
I hunted with my 6.8 spc AR-15 last year. In seasons past I've hunted with a Marlin 30-30 and a Savage 30-06. They all do the job.

stringnut
April 15, 2014, 09:20 PM
Deer hunting(or any hunting)is what's traditional. Doesn't matter what you do it with as long as it is legal and ethical.

That being said I am in the traditional camp. Steel and wood for most of my guns. Bolt 30/06, bolt 250Savage, bolt 7x57, couple of bolt 22s . Some pump and lever 22s also. The wife is a lever girl,but, uses a bolt if she needs more power or reach. She can be a bit modern . She has two full blown custom 10/22s that I put together with laminated stocks and bull barrels.

However, if you told either of us we had to hunt with "modern sporting rifle" we would be ready to go as soon as one could be aquired.

heycods
April 15, 2014, 09:22 PM
Blue steel and wood, Black powder or Smokeless

huntsman
April 15, 2014, 09:42 PM
My traditional choices for deer hunting have been shotgun and muzzle loader but now the gun of choice is a Blackhawk in .45C, it's a bucket list thing.;)

WestKentucky
April 15, 2014, 10:18 PM
How about a combination? Bolt action or lever gun, but stainless synthetic. I love the look and love the feel. I like blue and walnut but something about matte stainless and black synthetic sets me off.

jmr40
April 15, 2014, 10:20 PM
Both.

To be honest most of the time I use the most modern, up to date stainless steel bolt rifles with a quality synthetic stock and the best glass I can afford. I do use my AR's for varmint. Leaving for New Mexico Friday for a few days of coyote hunting with the AR. I would use it for deer under the right conditions. Usually not, but only because most of our deer and bear seasons overlap. I have no issue with 223 on deer, but it ain't a bear cartridge.

I actually own more lever actions than any other type of rifle. All are walnut, mostly blue. I hate cheap hardwood and would 10X rather have cheap plastic. I hunt with the levers when I'm in a traditional mood.

I also archery hunt. While I own a modern compound, it is a 50+ year old Browning recurve that goes bow hunting most of the time.

The go to rifle

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m513/jmr40/2013cohutta018_zps80d98931.jpg (http://s1129.photobucket.com/user/jmr40/media/2013cohutta018_zps80d98931.jpg.html)

The traditionals

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m513/jmr40/levers002_zpsaa81d662.jpg (http://s1129.photobucket.com/user/jmr40/media/levers002_zpsaa81d662.jpg.html)

d2wing
April 15, 2014, 10:54 PM
Gosh, do I have to choose. Because I hunt in different areas where different guns are legal and because of injuries, I have used just about all of them except muzzle loaders. For open stand hunting I like modern. For walking in the woods I like 30-30 lever. When my shoulder hurts I like an AR. In shotgun zones I of course use a slug gun. I like different tools for different situations. Sometime I would like to wear my dad's old red wool and use his .35 Remington pump.

1911 guy
April 16, 2014, 02:33 AM
While my deer hunting is done with "traditional" firearms, it's not because of prejudice on my part. Centerfire rifles are not legal to hunt deer with in Ohio (some pistol caliber rifles will be legal this coming season) so I use a 12ga with slugs. When I hunt W.Va., I use a bolt action .308 only because my pockets aren't deep enough for a AR-10.

Zeke/PA
April 16, 2014, 08:50 AM
I hunted deer for years with a Pre-War Model 70 in .30-'06 but recently I've been carrying a super accurate Marlin 336 in .35 Remington.
A bolt action stainless with a synthetic stock is one thing but I would wonder about a guy I saw carrying an AR in the deer woods.

jimmyraythomason
April 16, 2014, 09:40 AM
Traditional for me. My preferred venison getter is a bolt action Mauser sporter.

gspn
April 16, 2014, 11:01 AM
Traditional.

hartcreek
April 16, 2014, 11:03 AM
I shoot slivers and use a charcoal burner in .50 cal and a couple 25-35s and .32 Winchester Special and of course a M44 and fer really long shootin 1000m 1950s Remington 721 in 30-06. Oh yea I also hunt with a S&W 624 and an Ivar Johnson cattleman Buntline in .44 mag and I have been known to use a .50 cal Jukar and this year I could use a Uberti Walker. I also have a Marlin model 19 and a couple Mossberg 500s and a 150 year old damascus barrel 16 gage BP shotgun.

longknife12
April 16, 2014, 11:35 AM
;) My hunting is traditional. Entire stable is late 40's early 50's Winchesters.
Old dog and old tricks.
Dan

brainwake
April 16, 2014, 11:45 AM
Traditional....no need for a 30 round mag on deer...yeah sure you could get a 10 round mag....but .....no need for a 10 round mag on deer. :)

I also think that the traditional rifle handles a little better when you lay it across your lap while sitting against a tree. It just something about the angle of the grip and the smoothness of the stock.

If you are going full on stalk....maybe the modern rifle with 3 point harness might acquire faster..but I don't really think its worth the extra weight.

Also, if you go prone, the mag on a modern has less clearance..

I also think the traditional slings over the shoulder a little easier..

I also would say that traditional bolt rifles have a longer stronger barrel and would be more accurate pound for pound.

Water-Man
April 16, 2014, 12:11 PM
Traditional!

Jason_W
April 16, 2014, 12:25 PM
Traditional or modern is a less important question than:

1. Is the gun legal for deer hunting?

2. Do I enjoy shooting the gun and am I proficient with it?

3. Is the gun comfortable to carry or it sit with in a stand?

Arkansas Paul
April 16, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jason, I think he's simply inquiring about personal preferences, not legalities or ethics. The question isn't important at all, nor was it meant to be. It's just interesting to see what everyone prefers, that's all and there's nothing wrong with that.

Personally, I prefer traditional. Give me a good ol' bolt action with a decent scope and I'm happy hunting.
That being said, I do like the AR platform. Nothing wrong with that either. But when it comes time to bring home the bacon, I like the bolts.

ldlfh7
April 16, 2014, 02:27 PM
Traditional all the way.

MCgunner
April 16, 2014, 07:23 PM
Should be a poll.

Traditional...well, except where pistols are concerned. My rifles are either bolt guns or front stuffers with one lever gun in the mix.

I've killed 2 with what I'd call "modern", but it didn't have any stinkin' pistol grip on it. It's an SKS rifle. My bolt and front stuffer guns are better deer getters, frandly, but the SKS will do the job.

wally247
April 16, 2014, 07:33 PM
I have used levers, AR-15's, revolvers, shotgun, muzzle loader, and bows. I don't care what I'm shooting, as long as I have a tag for the right one I'll use it, they all taste the same no matter what I shoot 'em with!

cammogunner
April 16, 2014, 08:28 PM
wow i had no idea so many would say traditional.. i personaly use a mossberg 100 atr in a 06[its kinda like the cheap wine people buy at the dodgy store down the street] and there is also my lever 30 30 marlin i LOVE that thing..i supose i would use an ar-10 in a 450 if someone twisted my arm:D

d2wing
April 16, 2014, 09:49 PM
Brain wake, I agree with what you said about handling. A slim wood stocked bolt action feels good in the hands and maneuvers nicely and swings nicely. That is what I dislike about my AR. The 30-30 is also nice but the lever limits how it can be handled a little but you can shoot it off either shoulder and it is short and light great in the bush. I am glad for the variety.

gbran
April 16, 2014, 09:54 PM
Bolt action '06, for most sizable game
.223 single shot TC for vaqrmints
Rimfires for small game
12ga SxS shottie for birds

ch84
April 17, 2014, 01:13 AM
Me and my traditional guns are ready for deer season now doesn't matter if it's hunting in brush open fields or in a tree

1911 guy
April 17, 2014, 03:34 AM
I've got no problem with someone preferring "traditional" guns. There is a beauty to a well made rifle with deep blued steel and finely figured hardwood stock.

But the accuracy edge is a very thin margin. The AR type, by virtue of the bearing surface on the bolt, has an incredibly consistent lockup. Thus the reason it's taken over at camp perry.

savanahsdad
April 17, 2014, 04:18 AM
I started A thread 3 years back and get it started back up around deer season it is at 7 pages now , most are traditional the thread is
" Deer Camp Guns. What are you seeing"


I hunt with both but most are traditional ,

Dr.Rob
April 17, 2014, 04:53 AM
Traditional.

Though I have used a lever, a pump action centerfire and a bolt gun as well as a muzzle loader to hunt.

Davek1977
April 17, 2014, 05:19 AM
I've killed deer with everything from a lever-action Marlin 336 that belonged to my grandpa, to my AR-15,y to Dad's Remmy 700 to my SKS, to my Model 70 Winchester.....I can't say I enjoyed any hunt more or less because of my weapon of choice, and every option has collected venison for me with no issues. Some hunts I don't know what I'm taking until I leave the house....just open up the safe and see what calls to me that day!

MCgunner
April 17, 2014, 11:10 AM
But the accuracy edge is a very thin margin. The AR type, by virtue of the bearing surface on the bolt, has an incredibly consistent lockup. Thus the reason it's taken over at camp perry.

How about accuracy 370 yards across a New Mexico canyon on a big mulie that takes some killin'? The .308 from an AR10 could do it. Personally, I was shooting a 7mm Rem Mag.

What I don't like about pistol gripped, removable mag rifles is ergos afield. I much prefer traditional when I'm spot and stalking. Not so big an issue hunting from a box blind or stand in the woods over a feeder.

cammogunner
April 17, 2014, 11:56 AM
i think its great in this day and age not EVERYBODY has turned to the "black rifles" while there in no way shape or form something wrong with an ar type rifle.infact some of the finest rifles i have handled are ar's.i just love it when i see a bolt or a pump ect it just feels right..:)

rromeo
April 20, 2014, 12:20 AM
My AR is only .223, which is not legal for deer. I was looking into a .450 Bushmaster, and I would love to use that. My property is pretty densely wooded, so I carry a lever gun, but a semiauto would be better.

splattergun
April 20, 2014, 01:54 AM
American Walnut and blue steel.

redneck2
April 20, 2014, 09:25 PM
Gotta remember that traditional varies by location. In areas where typical center fire guns are legal, I'd go "traditional", which would be something like a 30-06, etc.

Here, I guess traditional would be slugs or muzzle loader, but nearly all black powder is inline, so is that really traditional?

wyohome
April 20, 2014, 10:04 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Deaver/7189ae15.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/Deaver/media/7189ae15.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Deaver/a4780e5b.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/Deaver/media/a4780e5b.jpg.html)

I use one of these.

alsaqr
April 20, 2014, 10:11 PM
Traditional and modern.:D

1. Traditional as in sidelock muzzleloader.

2. Modern as in inline muzzleloader.

SleazyRider
April 20, 2014, 10:35 PM
Traditional. I hefted by buddy's AR only once or twice before I decided "this ain't fo' me."

MCgunner
April 21, 2014, 09:51 AM
I find it hard to think of the AR as modern. It's a nearly 60 year old design. If it's modern, so am I. Of course, no one's invented the phazer, yet.

yzguy87
April 21, 2014, 06:54 PM
I use whatever gets the job done.
Deer- Mossberg 500 12 ga, CVA Staghorn magnum .50, and a Taurus Silhouette in 44 mag
Squirrel- Mossberg 500 12 ga and Remington 597

Someday I want to get and hunt with an 1866 trapdoor Springfield rifle in 50-70 govt.

cammogunner
April 21, 2014, 10:39 PM
wyo..is that is an awsome 99 you got there and is that a 7400 in there to..where do you shop i need the number of that place:D

wyohome
April 22, 2014, 01:03 AM
760...and a Win 88.

ICE1210
April 22, 2014, 01:16 AM
I guess you could say I go both ways. I killed two deer last season. One with a Ruger Number 1 in 7mm08. The second I shot with an AR15 in 300blk. I find that both rifles handle well, with a possible edge going to the AR platform because I've trained with it so much. Next season I'll switch between guns as the situation requires.

rromeo
April 22, 2014, 08:56 AM
Is that a factory Ruger No 1 in 7mm08? I've found a few hen's teeth over the years, but I can't find one of those.

Kurt S.
April 23, 2014, 06:45 PM
Me: Traditional- Marlin 95 in the woods, Ruger 77 .25-06 in the canyons and plains.

Wife: Modern- AR-15 (Bushmaster). Let's not worry about 5.56/.223 being adequate or not :)

DM~
April 23, 2014, 09:41 PM
My "go to" deer rifle is 79 years old, hunting here on my place with an AR, isn't going to happen any time soon...

DM

wyohome
April 23, 2014, 10:03 PM
Let's not worry about 5.56/.223 being adequate or not

Wyoming made it legal last year for deer, pronghorn, wolves and mountain lions.

ICE1210
April 23, 2014, 11:06 PM
Rromeo,
Mine is a rebarrel by McGowan out in Montana. Ruger didn't make many 7mm08s and I got tired of looking for poultry teeth. I had a Nomber 1 in 45-70 that I couldn't hit a barn with. McGowan did a great job on it and it shoots better than I do now, with hand loads I can get sub MOA groups.

cammogunner
April 24, 2014, 02:37 PM
sorry wyo duh i should have known that sorry..still awsome rifles

wyohome
April 24, 2014, 10:46 PM
sorry wyo duh i should have known that sorry..still awsome rifles

The bolt action ones are a Rem 788 and a Kimber Longmaster Classic 84m

cammogunner
April 26, 2014, 05:59 AM
ok cool i like kimber they do what you askem

Savage99
April 26, 2014, 01:09 PM
The assault rifles turn me off. I would not have one.

My battery includes the M70 I bought new in 1957. It's a Varmint model. I wore out the 243 bbl and replaced it with an old M70 220 Swift bbl.

Here is a gun with class!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/695/drillingi.jpg

kbbailey
April 30, 2014, 12:26 AM
I have a little of everything rifle-wise. I'm pretty new to the AR world but I like it. However, I almost always turn to my single-shots to hunt with.

Traditional for me too.

Bobson
April 30, 2014, 03:24 AM
This is a Ford versus Chevy discussion, if ever there was one.

Makes no difference to me. Both vehicles will take me from Point A to Point B, and neither one will do it better. If I had to pick, I'd say Traditional, because they tend to get better mileage. :rolleyes:

03Shadowbob
May 1, 2014, 10:12 PM
All my hunting guns are traditional though I have killed a couple with an AR.

Carl N. Brown
May 1, 2014, 10:19 PM
I'd say tradition or modern based on what your training and experience has made safe handling and accurate firing instinctive to you. For me it would be my Marlin 336. For a younger generation--especially family and friends trained and drilled in handling the AR platform in the military--that would be the modern sporting rifle and requiring them to use an unfamiliar platform would be contrary to my gun safety rule--use what you're most familiar with and can handle instinctively.

CraigC
May 5, 2014, 12:24 PM
100% traditional and 90% of that is with traditional muzzleloaders. The balanced comprised of traditional leverguns with the odd boltgun thrown in every once in a while. This is as modern as it gets:

http://photos.imageevent.com/newfrontier45/rifles/large/IMG_2722b.jpg

cammogunner
May 5, 2014, 08:17 PM
that is one heck of a gun ya got there craigc i also like the scope i suppose you arent expecting any long shots

CraigC
May 6, 2014, 12:28 AM
Thanks! Should do fine for the .250's effective range. ;)

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