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berettaprofessor
April 16, 2014, 11:06 AM
The Today show today had a live interview of Savanah Guthrie with Michael Bloomberg and Shannon Watts (Moms Against Guns). He announced a 50 million campaign to enlist women in the fight against guns.

I was burning up at every lie from his mouth and had to walk away. In the interview, Bloomberg said "31000 Americans either get murder or commit suicide with illegal guns"....attributing all gun deaths annually to "illegal" guns.

All the buzz words "common-sense" "90% for background check" "and it isn't gun control" "we're not going to take anyone's gun away" "this is what the American public wants".

There was no opposing view....nor any tough questioning...and a lead-in that was a cry fest on Obama's failure to pass gun legislation last year. They even cited the three recent hate-crime shootings in Kansas City as a reason for gun control.

Watch it here: http://www.today.com/video/today/54964829#54964829

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Akita1
April 16, 2014, 11:34 AM
Urge to vomit every time I see his face, let alone full projectile once he opens his mouth.

Sniper66
April 16, 2014, 12:30 PM
The level of dishonesty from these antigun loons is staggering. And no surprise that the equally antigun media are eager to carry these lies forward. My churning stomach riles up when I hear him and his buddy in the White House. They make me puke.

Old Fuff
April 16, 2014, 12:44 PM
Hopefully you guys who are upset (and you should be) will remember this when pro-gun organizations, such as the NRA, come around looking for donations (Keeep in mind that Bloomberg is willing to spend 50 million) or ask you to send an e-mail to your own senators or representatives in Washington or elsewhere. You shouldn't just sit on your butts and bluster...

And most important: Register and VOTE!

gulogulo1970
April 16, 2014, 01:16 PM
He is the biggest enemy of personal liberty in the land.

You fight fire with fire so throw some money at gun lobby groups. Join the NRA or whatever your favorite RKBA organization.

On the plus side he is very unlikeable. Even people who may agree with his gun stance see he is a busybody trying to intrude on peoples lives, guns, tobacco, sodas...

Jim Watson
April 16, 2014, 02:00 PM
"I am telling you if there is a God, when I get to heaven Iím not stopping to be interviewed. I am heading straight in. I have earned my place in heaven. Itís not even close."óMichael Bloomberg

Romeo 33 Delta
April 16, 2014, 02:02 PM
"Not by works" ... Mr. Bloomberg is in for a RUDE awakening. He don't know what he don't know.:evil:

ghitch75
April 16, 2014, 02:23 PM
all of the dems run on there lies.....it's all they got....

Midwest
April 16, 2014, 02:31 PM
No, I am not going to watch the video. But let me just add that it will be apathy not Bloomberg that will hurt Second Amendment rights. When "moms" showed up in Phoenix to meet the legislature and the Governor to oppose pro gun legislation. Only one person showed up in opposition to "moms'.

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?121023-Fire-mission-help-needed-!

Every time these clowns go on TV and rant, make another donation to the NRA and other pro-gun groups. Whether it is just a dollar, five dollars or whatever. Just make a donation. Start raffles at your local gun club or CCW class to give away free NRA memberships.

So Bloomberg has $50 million. How many gun owners are in this country? 100 million? If everyone just gave a dollar. We could buy $100 million in just ad time for our side and really reach out.

Just imagine if all 100 million+ gun owners called Today's phone lines and sent emails in opposition to Bloomberg's appearance.

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longknife12
April 16, 2014, 02:35 PM
Beware of Bloomie $$$$$$$$$$$ and arrogance. We found this true in Colorado. Grass roots rid us of a few of his stooges...get active!
Dan
:cool:

kbbailey
April 16, 2014, 02:44 PM
I had a complete editorial about the media typed and ready to post.
I am going to go High Road instead and just suggest joining and/or donating to the NRA, and changing channels to a real news station.

berettaprofessor
April 16, 2014, 02:44 PM
all of the dems run on there lies.....it's all they got....

Please keep political party references out of this thread; I wanted to see that members are aware of this news and I don't want to see the thread discussion locked because it goes off on a political rant. Thanks.

gym
April 16, 2014, 05:29 PM
Bloomberg is a real danger to all freedom loving Americans. He would have you eat and drink, smoke what he approves of and do as you are told. Reminds me of another short guy who used force and police to enforce his will.
Problem with that guy is he has too much money to ignore.

SilentStalker
April 16, 2014, 05:56 PM
What's staggering to me is how much time and money has to be wasted to fight for an inalienable right. Period. Think about how much time and money is wasted on this crap, then think about how much that could help some other cause instead of it being wasted. It really pisses me off that I have to spend my valuable free time writing these yahoos and spending my hard earned money for a right that should not even be on the banishing table. It says pretty clearly in the Constitution what the 2nd amendment is and if they went by what it says it to be then there wouldn't be any of this nonsense. The sad part is the second amendment is already cast aside in a matter of speaking. The simple fact that you have to pay for a pistol license to carry, among other things, already proves this. We have already given up enough of our 2nd amendment rights as todays interpretation is a far cry of what I believe the forefathers had in mind when it was written.

I am not even sure it has anything to do with gun ownership or freedom. I believe a lot of this nonsense is cooked up because it is profitable for both sides. As long as we keep spending money on it. Think about it.

Bert Retta
April 16, 2014, 06:01 PM
I would suspect He will be in for a big surprise when He approaches those Pearly Gates ,He states in His comment "If there is a God? Doubt of God will not stand the test for this Foolish man on that Day.

Tommygunn
April 16, 2014, 07:19 PM
It is supposed to be easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven.
That, and Bloomberg's arrogance, will assure the Wicked One will have another amongst his minions.:evil:

Theohazard
April 16, 2014, 07:42 PM
all of the dems run on there lies.....it's all they got....
Please keep political party references out of this thread; I wanted to see that members are aware of this news and I don't want to see the thread discussion locked because it goes off on a political rant. Thanks.
Amen. I know plenty of democrats who support gun rights. Alienating potential allies by using partisan political terms to refer to anti-gun folks not only shows a complete lack of political nuance, but it's also a bad strategy that hurts our cause.

cammogunner
April 16, 2014, 07:49 PM
if i evan hear the name bloomberg i think my blood pressure rises dramaticly i dont think to many people are honestly evil in this world bloomberg is one of them the fact he is trying to take away a god given right is evil

kwguy
April 16, 2014, 08:03 PM
He's a fascist. Contribute to the NRA. It's the most powerful, cohesive organization that can hope to compete with his personal, money backed agenda. Of course other organizations (GOA) will fight him as well, but I think the NRA is the most cohesive organization. He has to be stopped. He's dangerous. Don't be complacent where this guy is concerned. He has all the money he could ever want, now he wants power. And the money is simply a tool to get that.

CoalTrain49
April 16, 2014, 08:06 PM
all of the dems run on there lies.....it's all they got....

Lets try real hard to stay focused on gun control. Blasting the other party like they are a sub race of humans just makes all of us here look like a bunch of rabid dogs. If you want to blast Bloomberg that's fine with me, I don't think real highly of him either, but we are talking about one guy, not half of the voters in the country. They don't all vote anti-gun.

Wake up.

Shanghai McCoy
April 16, 2014, 08:45 PM
Funny how one VERY RICH guy is willing to spend so much money in order to surpress the Constitutional Rights of so many of us individuals..?

Downeast
April 16, 2014, 08:58 PM
It's amazing how self-serving this guy is. If he really wanted to help people, he could donate the $50 mil to veterans groups, feeding the poor, curing cancer or any other number of worthy causes, but no, for him it is all about him and feeding his out of control ego.

HOOfan_1
April 16, 2014, 09:05 PM
Including suicide is ridiculous...if a person wants to kill themself...they will find a way.

How about the two recent knife attacks. The one in Canada killed 5.

Impureclient
April 16, 2014, 09:10 PM
He wants to make his mark in history. Imagine having $30+ billion and nothing to do with it worthwhile. You probably get so bored
with the power it gives you that it drives you insane. Insane to have control over everybody around you.

Midwest
April 16, 2014, 09:17 PM
All the gun owners in the country combined can out spend him several times over if we all got on the same page.

If anything perhaps his appearance will piss off and finally motivate enough gun owners in this country to get more politically involved and make a huge difference at the polls for our side.

Tell the "Today" show what YOU think about his appearance.

Find out when the next "mom" rally is, and make it a goal to let our side out number their side 10 to 1.

The next time you are at the range ask for a dollar donation each from everyone attending and send it to the NRA, GOA and other Pro-Gun Groups and Organizations.

Do the same if you run a CCW class.

Talk to your neighbors, co-workers, friends and family.

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jmr40
April 16, 2014, 09:28 PM
Just remember, we are winning. That does not mean to get complacent, but don't panic either. The momentum is in our favor. More and more states are passing laws that are easing gun restrictions rather than making them more restrictive. If the gun grabbers couldn't even get any serious movement after some of the recent high profile shootings I don't see $50 million winning the battle for them.

Just keep on doing the right thing, help educate non-shooters, and many who do shoot, so they know the truth.

Elkins45
April 16, 2014, 09:43 PM
all of the dems run on there lies.....it's all they got....
Bloomberg is a Republican. Just saying...

Party labels often fail.

chicharrones
April 16, 2014, 09:54 PM
The Today show today had a live interview of Savanah Guthrie with Michael Bloomberg and Shannon Watts (Moms Against Guns). He announced a 50 million campaign to enlist women in the fight against guns.

Yep, I saw it this morning. He is planning on spending that across all of 2014.

Time for me to donate some more to the NRA and the NRA-ILA.

HexHead
April 16, 2014, 09:57 PM
Bloomberg is a Republican. Just saying...

Party labels often fail.
Bloomberg ran as a Republican his first term because there were a lot of Dems running and he knew he'd have an easier time in the a Republican primary for Mayor. He also knew the Republican candidate would get Guiliani's endorsement, and Rudy was at the top of his popularity after 9/11. He ran as an independent his 2nd or 3rd term.

Ignition Override
April 16, 2014, 11:51 PM
Sniper66:
Maybe if more people did not feel harassed when the NRA sends a stream of paper to their mailboxes, or only see the NRA's inefficiencies, they might decide to spend some beer/whiskey money to actually fight "Doomberg" (chipping away the small 2nd Amend. iceberg). His movement seems to be growing.

The Green Berets and Navy SEALs should first send all applicants a stream of mail, to learn how they prioritize their 'big picture'.

Of course many gun owners have found a more effective organization than the NRA, to support the 2nd Amendment on a national level, but they always seem unable tell us the other group's name...

gulogulo1970
April 16, 2014, 11:54 PM
This is the signature of THR member, vamo. I saw it and it applies perfectly.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

-C.S. Lewis

Midwest
April 17, 2014, 07:45 AM
If all of the 100 million gun owners in this country would just donate $5 a YEAR. We could out spend the former mayor 10 to 1........think about it. Can each of us afford $5 a YEAR?
And for every box of ammo you shoot, donate $2 extra to the NRA. For every gun related item you buy, donate an extra $1 to the NRA.

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JSH1
April 17, 2014, 08:29 AM
He states in His comment "If there is a God? Doubt of God will not stand the test for this Foolish man on that Day.

Considering there is no video from the interview I can't tell if he was joking or not. Regardless, that statement won't help his efforts and will be quoted until the day he dies. Speaking of death, anyone who believes that they know with certainly what happens when we die is just as arrogant as someone who believes they have a ticket straight to heaven. I'm not in a hurry to find out.

Maybe if more people did not feel harassed when the NRA sends a stream of paper to their mailboxes, or only see the NRA's inefficiencies, they might decide to spend some beer/whiskey money to actually fight "Doomberg" (chipping away the small 2nd Amend. iceberg). His movement seems to be growing.

If the NRA didn't fill my inbox with tinfoil hat garbage I would pay more attention to them.

barnbwt
April 17, 2014, 08:43 AM
Sounds like Bloomberg made too much money off QE∞ this year, and needs to show some losses :rolleyes:. We're all shakin' in our boots, Bloomberg, but please keep it up; the nation needs to see just how much you think we can be bought for.

That's a great billboard campaign; "Bloomberg believes your gun rights are worth 2.37$" (or whatever the local population/ad money ratio is). Personally, I'm curious how an individual can openly admit to this kind of widespread electioneering and steer clear of the assorted laws (granted, the recent SCOTUS decision makes the practice more open and acceptable), especially since I'll bet dollars to donuts a goodly chunk of it is coming from his tax-exempt charities that supposedly have to be non-partisan (though I doubt they'll be audited this year). I hope he dumps it all in Colorado, since even a 7:1 spending ratio failed miserably there; maybe a 15:1 might break about even. I really hope he doesn't pick Texas, since I live here and it would get annoying fast :D

Still, we should never forget how powerful propaganda can be; anyone remember just how ubiquitous iPod commercials were when they first came out? I was in college, and distinctly remember about 1/3 TV commercials being by the company. The constant barrage, for years, is what built a very large part of their reputation (that, and no major screw ups). I later found out they were spending something like 40X more ad money than their nearest competitor. Knowing that, it's hard to believe it was ever a fair fight based on merit.

TCB

ghitch75
April 17, 2014, 08:54 AM
Please keep political party references out of this thread; I wanted to see that members are aware of this news and I don't want to see the thread discussion locked because it goes off on a political rant. Thanks.

but it is ALL political......isn't it?

Carl N. Brown
April 17, 2014, 09:14 AM
"....Michael Bloomberg and Shannon Watts (Moms Against Guns)."

Why don't the media point out that Moms Against Guns MAG are like Mayors Against Illegal Guns MAIG: MAG and MAIG are Michael Bloomberg outfits? The media always point out that Second Amendment Sisters have NRA connections. I have paid attention to the gun control issue since the late 1950s and I am well aware that the national news media have taken an advocacy journalism 101 stance in favor of gun control for over half a century.

I would like to point out that when NYC Mayor Lindsay got rifle registration passed in the 1960s, it was minimally intrusive and the fee was only $3. Today the NYC rifle fees run about $200 and the registration lists are culled and people were notified when NYC passed an assault weapons ban that their duly registered rifles were contraband, and they could (a) surrender the gun to NYPD, (b) dispose of it outside the city or (c) have it rendered inert. Bloomberg considers that sort of thing inadequate control.

On the UBC: 90% of survey samples might support the idea of uniform background checks for gun purchase; but those who have read the details of the UBC bills know they go far beyond just requiring a background check for a gun transfer.

And the 40% non-FFL no BG check gun acquisition stat from the NSPOF survey is not what it is represented to be. Under the NSPOF survey, 19% of gun acquisitions were gifts from family or friend (the other 21%: 5% inheritances, 13% used guns sold by private owners, 3% swap or trade of used guns between private owners). When my son bought me a rifle for Father's Day he had to pass a NICS BG check and I have passed TICS and NICS BG checks before and since on my own purchases. It not true that 40% of gun transactions are between people ineligible to pass a BG check or are conducted by "unlicensed dealers" to criminals.

The NSPOF survey of 1994 was a survey of ordinary citizens selected at random and showed 60% of guns were acquired from dealers expected to have an FFL and conduct BG checks. The armed felon surveys of prison inmates of 1986, 1991, 1997 and 2004 showed that regulated sources were used by less than 15% of felons (and often by having a family member, friend or lover w/o a record do a straw purchase). The vast majority of crime guns are acquired illegally. The target of federal gun control is not the armed felon: it is the ordinary gun owner. Otherwise, they would be using the armed felon/prison inmate survey data to determine gun policy goals, and not using the NSPOF.

TenDriver
April 17, 2014, 10:31 AM
What I find interesting is Bloomberg has dropped public support of an AWB and possibly magazine restrictions, choosing to focus on UBC's at the present time.

This is quite telling to me, as he understands public support doesn't back him on his entire agenda. He is putting his money where it will do the most damage to gun rights.

Obviously he will add items to his laundry list as time goes on.

ohbythebay
April 17, 2014, 10:42 AM
try and find contact info

try to use their feedback page

They don't want to know...nothing there and nothing works...

Bet he paid for that spot too...

And agree, lets not demonize parties. I tend to vote democrat but I respect views of both. I am a liberal conservative and a conservative liberal. The one thing I am NOT is a victim so don't think you are taking my guns away Mr. Bloomberg

Theohazard
April 17, 2014, 10:53 AM
And agree, lets not demonize parties. I tend to vote democrat but I respect views of both. I am a liberal conservative and a conservative liberal. The one thing I am NOT is a victim so don't think you are taking my guns away Mr. Bloomberg
Exactly! Pro-gun people come from all political persuasions. Yet by using partisan political terms to describe those who are anti-gun, people like ghitch75 only manage to drive away potential allies. I honestly don't understand why someone would want to intentionally alienate people who might otherwise support our cause. It's an ignorant and counter-productive strategy; they might as well just donate money to Bloomberg and be done with it.

Midwest
April 17, 2014, 11:09 AM
Our Governor is a Democrat and has voted for a number of pro-gun bills.
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ohbythebay
April 17, 2014, 11:11 AM
Is the lack of understanding from those who want to fix the problem...without understanding the problem. The problem is not guns but there IS a problem.

I am 54 years old. When my generation, the generations prior and the generation after went to school, you never heard of "school shootings", knife attacks, gang related gun victims. Were they less available ? Hell no. The worst things that occurred were fist fights and "gasp" maybe someone had a bat or a chain.

So what has changed ? Sad to say its pretty obvious to any thinking person, it was a culture change both in the media, the home and even in the way kids play.

Since the 70's and 80's the media has so relaxed its moral code to the point that if you even showed the commercials of today to a person of that era, their eyes would bug out. The shows contain very large amounts of violence with no consequence.

Tell me my heroic police officers who serve, if you shot as many people as the cops on TV, what would your life be like ? How many of you have had a bullet to the vest and treat it like its all in a days work ? And every crook tries to shoot their way out. Finally, no one seems that injured or if they are dead, no horrific wound scenes (not sure if that would help or to feed the frenzy) .

So our kids are blasted by tv shows with violence. If they watch the news, all they see if violence. Now lets add insult to injury. Instead of sports, reading, playing outside, riding bikes, they sit in front of a game/tablet/phone shooting would be enemies. Again, conditioning. Day in day out. If you added the eye gear and drugs, you would have a Clockwork Orange. It is literally long term brainwashing.

No one can predict the true loonie tunes people, mentally unstable who grab a gun or a knife and go "postal" (sorry if the term offends - just giving a context), but we are literally allowing our youth to be trained that violence is okay. Its a way of life, a way to get attention, a way to solve issues. The parents are oblivious because the babysitter (tv and videogames) are keeping the kids out of their hair.

If Bloomberg and the other "stop the madness" advocates want to focus on something, focus on the root cause, not the symptom. Make every video game start with an infomercial about safety, how this is not real life. EVERY TIME THEY START THE GAME - NO JUST ONE TIME.

Make every tv show with violence do something similar. Add it into the scripts how much trouble an officer is in when he pulls his weapon, justified or not. The impact to his or her family, career, etc.

I know, I am living in a dream world, but THAT is where money should be focused. Take away guns and keep the violence, they will use bows. Bats. Tasers. The tools don't make the violence. The violence is being socialized in.

Rob steps quietly off the soapbox and thanks everyone...LOL

blarby
April 17, 2014, 11:49 AM
Grass roots rid us of a few of his stooges...get active!

Hear hear !

Not much to add- the truth is already right there.

Sam Cade
April 17, 2014, 12:36 PM
Our Governor is a Democrat and has voted for a number of pro-gun bills.
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Governors don't vote.

What they do is sign bills into law that have bees passed by the legislature, especially when opposing those laws would anger their constituency and endanger their re-election.

Beshear was RTKBA unfriendly as AG.

http://www.wkyt.com/news/kynewsmakers/headlines/9217651.html

Carl N. Brown
April 17, 2014, 12:37 PM
The NYT article seems to see Bloomberg as pro-Democrat. I believe he ran as a Republican not out of being a Republican but that was the only way he could run, in that election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/us/bloomberg-plans-a-50-million-challenge-to-the-nra.html?ref=politics
Jeremy W. Peters, "Bloomberg Plans a $50 Million Challenge to the N.R.A.", New York Times, 15 Apr 2014, on page A12 under title "For Next Step, Bloomberg Sets His Sights on the N.R.A."

The plans call for a restructuring of the gun control groups he funds, Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. They will be brought under one new umbrella group called Everytown for Gun Safety.

I believe "Everytown" was used in H.G. Wells' apocalyptic novel "The Shape of Things to Come" and his script for the movie version "Things to Come". I am sure that Bloomberg imagines himself as Oswald Cabal leading the post-apocalypse renaissance. Hubris and pride of might though make leaders like Rudolf, the "Boss" of the apocalyptic wasteland.

The Times quotes "In recent years, the N.R.A. has spent only $20 million annually on political activities" but Open Secrets lists that the NRA spendt 1.4 million on political contributions in all races combined in the 2012 election. That makes me wonder what Bloomberg and the NYT regard as political activities. I have seen earlier claims by gun control groups that list the entire NRA budget as being spendt on "gun lobbying" when lobbying is only part of the NRA's activities.

Comments on the NYT article were closed after 250 were received. The NYT Top 5 picks of the 250 Comments included:
* One I would call pro-NRA: "NRA is a true grassroots organization. It's powerful, not because of the money, but because its members are committed, and they vote. Many are single-issue voters."
* Two pro-more-control including one "We just want to put reasonable restrictions in place similar to those applied to the Freedom of Speech and the Right to assemble" but another calling for a response like UK & Australia (where whole classes of guns were banned).
* Two enough-is-enough-already, one that that pointed out in response to "no restrictions of any kind on gun rights of any sort...really?" that there are "plenty of restrictions as it is, more so than most rights" and another listing restrictions in his jurisdiction asking "Really yourself?"

Sam Cade
April 17, 2014, 12:45 PM
So what has changed ? Sad to say its pretty obvious to any thinking person, it was a culture change both in the media, the home and even in the way kids play.

Have you actually looked at the crime rates?
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=197411&stc=1&d=1397752856


The homicide rate in the US of A is about where it was 105 years ago.

http://kondratiefflongwave.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/ushomicide20101.jpg

Carl N. Brown
April 17, 2014, 01:13 PM
That homicide per 100,000 pop. per year USA is pretty interesting.
1900 showed a homicide rate way below 2 per 100,000.
1900 is often cited as the end of the Wild West days. Yeehaw!
Maybe we need to return to those bygone ways of yesteryear.

Sam Cade
April 17, 2014, 01:43 PM
What is really brain melting is that when you look specifically at the Juvenile offender arrest rates they have dropped by more than half since the mid 90's.

In other words, kids today are less than half as likely to be arrested for a violent crime than MY generation.

So bring on the violent video games. They are obviously the causative factor for this precipitous drop. :evil:

ghitch75
April 17, 2014, 01:51 PM
That homicide per 100,000 pop. per year USA is pretty interesting.
1900 showed a homicide rate way below 2 per 100,000.
1900 is often cited as the end of the Wild West days. Yeehaw!
Maybe we need to return to those bygone ways of yesteryear.

this is back when everyone carried something(gun wise no gun laws to speak of) and everyone was very polite with each other....tipping hats and the like.....because if you tried something silly odds are you would be shot!!!

Pizzapinochle
April 17, 2014, 01:57 PM
this is back when everyone carried something(gun wise no gun laws to speak of)

Uh... I'd like to see some evidence of that?

Kind of doubt that you have any, outside of anecdotal.

JSH1
April 17, 2014, 02:06 PM
Why don't the media point out that Moms Against Guns MAG are like Mayors Against Illegal Guns MAIG: MAG and MAIG are Michael Bloomberg outfits?

They do. I don't watch much TV but just about every print article talking about Moms Demand Action or Mayors Against Illegal Guns mention that they are funded by Bloomberg.

Like him or hate him you have to give Bloomberg credit for one thing; he doesn't try to hide his involvement. He could have set up a couple of political action committees to try to hide his involvement with Everytown for Gun Safety but he didn't'. He went on national TV and threw down the gauntlet.

Red Wind
April 17, 2014, 02:15 PM
If all of the 100 million gun owners in this country would just donate $5 a YEAR. We could out spend the former mayor 10 to 1........think about it. Can each of us afford $5 a YEAR?
And for every box of ammo you shoot, donate $2 extra to the NRA. For every gun related item you buy, donate an extra $1 to the NRA.


The "former Mayor" has 27 billion dollars and just turned 72. There is no way to keep up with him financially.

No way,Jose. :evil: Sorry. But it is what it is. :scrutiny:

But, I am a Life Member of the NRA and still contribute more every year. I'm fairly well off and thank God, still healthy. Cross my fingers.

But Bloomy is in a different category. Out of 6 billion people on the planet, he is one of the top dozen dinero wise. A very dangerous hombre.

We have to watch our 6 with him every momento.

And thank you for that cool graph,Sam Cade! :cool: We will not see that on the MSM! ;)

jbrown50
April 17, 2014, 02:22 PM
Every time an anti-gun narcissist like Bloomberg comes forward with their latest plan to disarm law abiding peaceful citizens it makes me glad that I'm an NRA life member and that I continue to contribute to the NRA and other non gun organizations that truly make a difference in this society.

If him and others like him truly cared about crime and the victims of it they'd be attacking the root causes of crime. They'd be working to improve the education system so that young people can develop the proper skills to get and maintain legal and viable employment to support themselves. They'd be working to provide job training and jobs to the underpriviledged and downtroden. They'd be helping parents and family members to get viable treatment for a mentally ill loved one without stigmatizing them. They'd be working to teach young people family values and discipline, and cracking down on drug trafficking and corruption which is a financial disincentive to gaining good hard working employment.

In other words, they'd be doing useful meaningful things that would better this society instead of trying to gain fame for themselves by attacking the mythical NRA monster.

Midwest
April 17, 2014, 02:29 PM
Just remember if Hillary gets in, she could elect him to Supreme Court, head of The ATF or Attorney General. This is why the next election is so important (I don't want to get political).

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improperlyaged
April 17, 2014, 02:33 PM
what really irks me is that Bloomberg is spending several million here in arkansas trying to convince us we need dum gun laws like New York. Arkansas is not his business, stay out of my freaking state!

Midwest
April 17, 2014, 02:46 PM
what really irks me is that Bloomberg is spending several million here in arkansas trying to convince us we need dum gun laws like New York. Arkansas is not his business, stay out of my freaking state!
He did the same in New Hampshire and even Gabby stopped there with her "UBC tour". Bloomberg's group was also in Arizona recently and only one person showed up in opposition.

We need to band together and raise more money than his $50 million that he has dedicated to this. We can out spend his $50 million if every gun owner just puts up a dollar each.... but only if we all get on the same page.

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HOOfan_1
April 17, 2014, 02:54 PM
Just remember if Hillary gets in, she could elect him to Supreme Court, head of The ATF or Attorney General. This is why the next election is so important (I don't want to get political).

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As far as I know he has no law degree...so no way he could be Attorney General or on the Supreme Court. Supreme Court nominees have to be approved by congress as well.

Sniper66
April 17, 2014, 03:39 PM
So many of you are right and on the right track....be vocal, let people know what you think. Register and vote for pro gun people with a track record for pro gun support. Attend Friends of the NRA events and other NRA events. Invite friends to join you. Support the NRA. Keep in mind that we are one vote away from losing our gun rights in the Supreme Court. Support local candidates with time and donations; candidates with a demonstrated support for gun issues. Stay vocal and visible. Speak up! Get loud when you need to. Do not be silenced.

Erik M
April 17, 2014, 03:51 PM
If you were ever in doubt of what the face of gun confiscation looked like, look no further.

razorback2003
April 17, 2014, 04:03 PM
Maybe he should first refuse to have an armed security detail everywhere he goes to practice what he preaches.

piece of meat
April 17, 2014, 05:04 PM
Lord Bloomberg has made it a personal crusade to impose gun bans on the nation, and he clearly is willing to use his unlimited resources to push for gun control any way he can.

This man is going to be our Number One enemy...and an enormous threat to liberty..until the day he finally dies.

alsaqr
April 17, 2014, 08:16 PM
The "former Mayor" has 27 billion dollars and just turned 72. There is no way to keep up with him financially.

No way,Jose. Sorry. But it is what it is.

Exactly. We minimize Bloomberg at our peril. He can drop more money in the 2014 and 2016 elections than all the gun rights organizations have spent-ever.

Get out there, support the NRA and contribute until it hurts.

Larry Ashcraft
April 17, 2014, 08:32 PM
what really irks me is that Bloomberg is spending several million here in arkansas trying to convince us we need dum gun laws like New York. Arkansas is not his business, stay out of my freaking state!
He did that here in Colorado. We sent his bought-and-paid-for senators back where they came from. It felt good. He can be beat, it just takes a lot of grass roots effort.

Ky Larry
April 17, 2014, 09:33 PM
I have a hard time grasping the sheer arrogance of the man. He is just the latest in a long line of political demigods. The founding fathers were sharp enough to realize these people would always be around, so they gave us a weapon that will always overcome tyrany if we will only use it. Our precious right to vote will overcome this evil man and all his money and lies.

Never underestimate the power of propaganda. Just tell a lie, the bigger the better.Keep telling it long enough and it will eventually become the truth. Sound familiar?

AKElroy
April 17, 2014, 09:41 PM
The level of dishonesty from these antigun loons is staggering. And no surprise that the equally antigun media are eager to carry these lies forward.

Lies work.

I think it was Winston Churchill that said "Lies are hallway around the world before the truth gets its pants on".

MagnunJoe
April 17, 2014, 10:07 PM
I see another constant gun and ammo buying frenzy in the next 18 months until HRC takes over.

JSH1
April 17, 2014, 10:40 PM
This man is going to be our Number One enemy...and an enormous threat to liberty..until the day he finally dies.

I think Bloomberg is looking to set up an organization that will outlive him. If he is able found a strong organization that rallies people to the cause he has the money to set up an endowment that will fund it for decades or centuries after he is gone. Alfred Nobel died 1896 and his foundation is still going strong today and their endowment is double the original amount.

HexHead
April 18, 2014, 07:46 AM
Bloomberg's group was also in Arizona recently and only one person showed up in opposition.


Probably because nobody takes those "Moms" seriously.

MagnunJoe
April 18, 2014, 09:28 AM
Bloomberg order of gun business.
1-UBC
2-Ban mags over 10 rounds
3-declare any semi auto that has a box fed capacity of over 10 rounds an "assault weapon"
4-microstamping bullets. Tax ammo so fewer can purchase.
5-registration
6-confiscation.

Carl N. Brown
April 18, 2014, 12:54 PM
^ I think his dream is federal imposition of a national version of the Sullivan Act as enforced in NYC.

He is just the latest in a long line of political demigods.
ďI am telling you if there is a God, when I get to heaven Iím not stopping to be interviewed. I am heading straight in. I have earned my place in heaven. Itís not even close.Ē*
`He that is born to be a man,' says Wieland in his Peregrinus Proteus, `should nor can be anything nobler, greater, or better than a man.'
The fact is, that in efforts to soar above our nature, we invariably fall below it. Your reformist demigods are merely devils turned inside out."
--Edgar Allan Poe in Marginalia
Think of the unintended consequences of the prohibitionist crusades and moral panicks of recent history. I have a tendancy to pronounce demigod ("a mortal who is the offspring of a god and a human") as demogogue ("a political leader who appeals to emotions, fears, prejudices, and ignorance to gain power"). Successful demogogues do tend to act like demigods after the power goes to their heads.

_________________________
* http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/us/bloomberg-plans-a-50-million-challenge-to-the-nra.html?ref=politics
Jeremy W. Peters, "Bloomberg Plans a $50 Million Challenge to the N.R.A.", New York Times, 15 Apr 2014, on page A12 under title"For Next Step, Bloomberg Sets His Sights on the N.R.A."

Carl N. Brown
April 18, 2014, 01:02 PM
...nobody takes those "Moms" seriously...

Bloomberg's MAIG does. The donation page for Moms Demand Action has this:
"Please note that contributions to Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, a campaign of Mayors Against Illegal Guns Action Fund, are NOT tax deductible.
"If you prefer, checks made out to Mayors Against Illegal Guns Action Fund may be mailed to:"
"Mayors Against Illegal Guns
"909 Third Ave, 15th Floor
"New York, NY 10022"

Now, did the news point out that mom against guns in the interview was a Mike Bloomberg sockpuppet?

Elkins45
April 19, 2014, 11:54 AM
Bloomberg order of gun business.
1-UBC
2-Ban mags over 10 rounds
3-declare any semi auto that has a box fed capacity of over 10 rounds an "assault weapon"
4-microstamping bullets. Tax ammo so fewer can purchase.
5-registration
6-confiscation.
And that's just for soft drink dispensers! Imagine what he has planned for guns! :(

Seriously, the man is a demagogue of the worst order. He won't be happy until everyone conforms to his way of thought on everything. Guns are just the most visible and most important.

conw
April 19, 2014, 12:00 PM
And that's just for soft drink dispensers! Imagine what he has planned for guns! :(


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