Are existing e-forms still being processed?


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Arizona_Mike
April 16, 2014, 03:45 PM
It looks like 7 people have reported e-form approvals since 4/1 to NFATracker.com


I'm not seeing signs of a sharp cuttoff (yet):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21431738/E-form%20approval%20dates.png

Mike

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pjeski
April 16, 2014, 06:10 PM
Supposedly yes. If you got the confirmation, they were in the system. If not, probably stuck as drafts and won't be processed.

packpike
April 17, 2014, 09:57 AM
I certainly hope so. Mine were submitted on 12/26 and I'm still waiting. They were taking ~3 months back then, but my dealer says that they appear to be running closer to 4 now. My biggest fear is that they'll have an error and they'll make me resubmit via paper form which means I would have completely wasted 4 months. Oh well, all I can do is wait.

Invisible Swordsman
April 22, 2014, 05:45 PM
I submitted for an SBR electronically last November. This past Friday, 4/18, I got a call from my dealer to come in and sign a form that should have gone in when I filed. that tells me they're still processing them.

Akita1
April 23, 2014, 06:31 PM
FYI - they've pulled all the forms from eFile except 6 & 6a. Testing to see how that goes and will make Forms 1,4, etc. available again after the test period. It was a cluster so they're retooling. BATFE told me everything already in process will remain but no new filings for Forms 1, 4, etc. right now. I have one in process so will advise.

Arizona_Mike
April 23, 2014, 07:37 PM
There are still no new e-form approvals submitted to NFATracker.org.

I suspect they have been halted.

Mike

Akita1
April 23, 2014, 07:50 PM
Confirm that Arizona_Mike, they have been halted except Forms 6 and 6A. Can't imagine many of us use these forms except bulk importers...

Arizona_Mike
April 23, 2014, 08:13 PM
Confirm that Arizona_Mike, they have been halted except Forms 6 and 6A. Can't imagine many of us use these forms except bulk importers...
The mailing says you can only create a new 6/6A (which is the case), however they also said that existing forms will continue to be processed. There appears to be a glitch with that due to the lack of new approval reports at NFATracker.org.

It appears existing forms have been (temporarily) halted as well.

Mike

Akita1
April 23, 2014, 09:11 PM
Thanks Arizona_Mike. Hadn't heard of the halt of existing eFiles, in my case a Form 1 that is still showing as pending on the web site (when you can actually get on). I spent some time on the phone and email with BATFE last week and they assured me that my eFile Form 1 filed before the change was "grandfathered" under the halt. Uh-huh. Given the 10-11 month period on paper approvals, guess it is what it is. I filed a Form 1 on paper for my Kriss SDP (conversion to SBR) on Monday due to the eFile change, so I am destined to endure the duration anyway.

Total cluster.

Clearly they rolled out an experiment/Beta system, and we are the willing Guinea pigs!

pjeski
April 24, 2014, 06:44 AM
Just a note about the wait times. Just this week I got a paper form 4 back in eight months and one week. My last one was ten months.

packpike
April 24, 2014, 08:19 AM
'Temporarily' halted! I'm now at 4 months and counting for 5 Form 4 stamps.

Arizona_Mike
April 24, 2014, 02:02 PM
Just a note about the wait times. Just this week I got a paper form 4 back in eight months and one week. My last one was ten months.
They are clearing the backlog on paper forms at a surprising rate. I'm encouraged about getting my first MG by June.

Mike

Arizona_Mike
April 26, 2014, 05:42 PM
We are seeing fresh late April approvals in NFATracker.com for eforms. Looks like they are in business again.

Mike.

wally
April 27, 2014, 01:34 PM
We are seeing fresh late April approvals in NFATracker.com for eforms. Looks like they are in business again.


I sure hope so, I've got four in the pipeline done during January.

Anmut
May 1, 2014, 11:12 PM
I have no doubt that my first suppressor, filed through eforms at the beginning of February, will now be delayed another 8 months while they work out the bugs. My luck.

txblackout
May 2, 2014, 09:47 AM
I have a eform 1 for an SBR submitted nov 18, 2013 that just got approved 4/30/14

I suspect my suppressor from nov 18 is probably also approved as the silencer shop has been having approvals from the same time since april 20th or so.

Dave Markowitz
May 3, 2014, 01:30 PM
I submitted an eForm 1 to make a silencer on 12/4/13 and got the approved form with stamp via email this morning, 5/3/14.

:D

Anmut
May 5, 2014, 12:51 AM
Wow, so you guys are reporting that 4 months on eforms has now turned into 5 months? Keeps getting worse.

basicblur
May 5, 2014, 11:38 AM
I think some folks are under the illusion that eForms are going to be approved in 3 months?

From what I understand, the folks that got 'em done in 3 months were a "one time only" deal - they grabbed a bunch of applications and ran 'em thru the system to test it, and these are the folks that lucked up with only a 3 month wait.

I remember seeing in one of the ATF newsletters that they're expecting eForms to knock off 3 months of whatever the processing time for paper forms is (they had a chart comparing forms / times in the newsletter).

As reported, the last newsletter stated they had added extra help, and were burning thru the backlog at a pretty good rate (I think it was reported around 8% reduction in a month?). How long this will continue is anybody's guess.

I originally planned to use eForms, but whether my dealer decided he didn't want to mess with it or ?, who knows.

In about a week I'll be at the 6 month mark for mailing in my paper forms.

wally
May 5, 2014, 11:52 AM
My paper form from last July has beat my E-forms from January :(

I'd suggest getting paper forms in the pipeline instead of waiting for the E-forms to come back up as no telling what will happen if the new requirements for LEO sign-off, fingerprints and photos for Trusts get implemented, but presumably they can't be implemented retroactively.

packpike
May 5, 2014, 03:46 PM
I think some folks are under the illusion that eForms are going to be approved in 3 months?

Yes, 3 months is what I was expecting when I filed right after Christmas. That's the time that e-forms were taking then. I'm hoping that mine will be approved by the end of this month which will be 5 months.

Arizona_Mike
May 5, 2014, 07:11 PM
I think some folks are under the illusion that eForms are going to be approved in 3 months?

From what I understand, the folks that got 'em done in 3 months were a "one time only" deal - they grabbed a bunch of applications and ran 'em thru the system to test it, and these are the folks that lucked up with only a 3 month wait.

I remember seeing in one of the ATF newsletters that they're expecting eForms to knock off 3 months of whatever the processing time for paper forms is (they had a chart comparing forms / times in the newsletter).

As reported, the last newsletter stated they had added extra help, and were burning thru the backlog at a pretty good rate (I think it was reported around 8% reduction in a month?). How long this will continue is anybody's guess.

I originally planned to use eForms, but whether my dealer decided he didn't want to mess with it or ?, who knows.

In about a week I'll be at the 6 month mark for mailing in my paper forms.
It was not quite a "one time event". I got one through in exactly 90 days and another submitted about 5 weeks later in exactly 95 days. The e-form and paper times are converging however.

It looks like things were "golden" for the first 6-7 weeks.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21431738/NFATracker_5-5-2014.png
It looks like eforms have leveled off around 150 days.

Mike

Anmut
May 6, 2014, 12:40 AM
Sigh... patience is a virtue, however that doesn't mean I won't bitch about having to wait.

waterhouse
May 7, 2014, 02:12 PM
I got approved last night. The eform site is down today so I can't log in to see when I actually submitted the darn thing.

ETA: I found the email for my submission, 12/14/13, so about 5 months.

wally
May 7, 2014, 02:46 PM
On the E-form approvals do they Email you the approved pdf to print or do you need to go to the E-forms site to download the approved form?

Hopefully I'll start getting them in about a month.

Elkins45
May 7, 2014, 03:16 PM
I got approved last night. The eform site is down today so I can't log in to see when I actually submitted the darn thing.

ETA: I found the email for my submission, 12/14/13, so about 5 months.
I submitted my first eForm 1 on 12/12/13 and it was approved today 05/08/14. Just shy of five months.

plodder
May 8, 2014, 10:57 PM
Got word of my suppressor stamp approval today! 6 months & 1 week on an efile for my Trust.

waterhouse
May 9, 2014, 01:55 PM
On the E-form approvals do they Email you the approved pdf to print or do you need to go to the E-forms site to download the approved form?

They email it to you as a pdf.

wally
May 9, 2014, 04:20 PM
They email it to you as a pdf.
Thanks, glad to hear that, should take some load off their web site :)

Arizona_Mike
May 9, 2014, 05:02 PM
I was a very early adopter and I got emailed a VOID copy, logged in and downloaded the real one, and a day or two later was emailed the same valid copy (approved on 12/11). My second e-stamp (approved on 12/26) came as a valid copy in the first email.

Mike

jl1288
May 14, 2014, 12:22 PM
Good morning all,
I just received an e-mail from the ATF with an attached PDF containing my approved form 1.
That took 5mos. I filed 12/17/2013 it went pending that same day and today is just shy of 5mos. I called the NFA branch just +\- two weeks ago to check the status of my form 1 and a couple of paper form 4 's and was told not to expect my stamps for 10mos. Needless to say I am pleasantly surprised.

Anmut
May 14, 2014, 10:03 PM
3 months to 5 months. Still better than 10-12 months. I guess.

packpike
May 21, 2014, 02:25 PM
I called this morning to check the status of my pending Form 4's (5 e-filed). This is the first time I've called because I've tried to be patient, but I wanted to make sure that my forms hadn't got lost in the e-form site shuffle. The lady confirmed that the forms were submitted on 12/26 and that they should be done sometime in June. That would be 5-6 months.

griff383
May 22, 2014, 11:52 PM
I submitted an eform on 12/12 and got it back 5/10 so almost 5 months exactly, but I didnt get an email saying it had been approved. I randomly checked and found an approved form in my acct

wally
May 29, 2014, 04:20 PM
Got one Eform 4 yesterday (5/28/2014) and three Eform 1 today, yeah!

Form 4: 1/10/2014

Form 1: 1/13/2014, two on 1/16/2014


Maybe they are finally starting to progress on the backlog.

Arizona_Mike
May 29, 2014, 04:56 PM
Got one Eform 4 yesterday (5/28/2014) and three Eform 1 today, yeah!

Form 4: 1/10/2014

Form 1: 1/13/2014, two on 1/16/2014


Maybe they are finally starting to progress on the backlog.
I'm right behind you at 1/22 for my 10mm Roni with custom 9" barrel.

Mike

wally
May 30, 2014, 03:52 PM
I'm right behind you at 1/22 for my 10mm Roni with custom 9" barrel.

Lets hope you are happy next week!

These are my first Eforms, I've a couple of questions, I notice in the PDF and printout the "stamp" has the text underneath showing through, I hope/assume this is "normal"?

On the form 1 it has: my name, trustee digitally signed. But on the form 4 (done by GemTech for warranty replacement) the entire page 2 is blank. Should I fill in and sign page two after I print it out?

Anmut
May 31, 2014, 12:54 AM
Mine was efiled on form 4 on February 5th.. no word yet.

Arizona_Mike
June 3, 2014, 01:00 PM
Lets hope you are happy next week!

These are my first Eforms, I've a couple of questions, I notice in the PDF and printout the "stamp" has the text underneath showing through, I hope/assume this is "normal"?

On the form 1 it has: my name, trustee digitally signed. But on the form 4 (done by GemTech for warranty replacement) the entire page 2 is blank. Should I fill in and sign page two after I print it out?
I'm happy this morning. :D Thank you Mr. Pickles. 132 days (at the high end of the current trend--but the trend always runs low for recent data at NFATracker.com, for obvious reasons).

Time to update .sig.

Mike

packpike
June 4, 2014, 11:07 AM
I just got the call! My 5 suppressor stamps came through today! Submitted on 12/26/13 (efile) = 160 days.

txblackout
June 4, 2014, 02:52 PM
ffl submitted my form 4 1/26, called ATF today and they said it would probably be in july.

Arizona_Mike
June 4, 2014, 04:45 PM
My experiance in the last 12 months are so has been that they are sandbagging on their estimates.

Mike

MikeS.
June 5, 2014, 01:42 PM
I Efiled F4 on 11/19/13 for a silencer on my trust. I received the PDF stamp on 5/15/14.

trux59
June 6, 2014, 05:28 PM
From 1 filed 1/27/14 for an SBR with a Trust
Approved 6/6/14

basicblur
June 25, 2014, 10:14 PM
Got a friend who used eForm (Form 4 Trust) and got his stamp today - took 4 months & 1 day.

I went the paper route - been 7 1/2 months and still no stamps.

I had planned on using eForms right up to the point where I went to do the paperwork for the silencers - the shop owner then told me he wasn't going to do eForms (had told me up to that point that he was).

This was 2 months before my friend did his at our local shop (which wasn't a silencer dealer when I did mine).

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