Daewoo pistols- 'fast action'


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N3rday
April 4, 2004, 05:58 PM
I see the daewoo pistols described as having three actions- single and double, and also 'fast action'.
Sounds like a marketing ploy to me. What is fast action?

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Powderman
April 4, 2004, 06:26 PM
The fast action is operated as follows:

First, lock and load. Now, push the hammer forward with your thumb to its forward position. The energy of the mainspring is now stored. Pulling the trigger now will result in an almost effortless pull to the point of sear release, then about a 4 pound pull afterward.

To see it in its most modern iteration, check out any Para-Ordnance LDA.

Walt Sherrill
April 4, 2004, 09:04 PM
I thought the Para LDA was a true DAO gun? (Haven't got one, and haven't handled one, so that's a genuine question and not an attempt to disagree...)

The DaeWoo has what has been described as a HINGED hammer. It works as previously described, but when you pull the trigger (when in fast-action mode), the hammer flies back to the cocked mode, and from there you go through a normal SA trigger motion. (Its very "stageable.")

Not a market ploy at all. 1) Normal double action, 2) normal single action, or the 3) fast aftion as described above. I've had two -- and still have the .40 version. Nice guns. (Looks and feels a lot like a SIG might, were it made by S&W.)

Powderman
April 4, 2004, 09:25 PM
It's close to a DAO--the hammer follows the slide down--but the mainspring pressure is stored like the Daewoo.

Walt Sherrill
April 4, 2004, 09:36 PM
I thought the Para LDA was a true DAO gun? (Haven't got one, and haven't handled one, so that's a genuine question and not an attempt to disagree...)

The DaeWoo has what has been described as a HINGED hammer. It works as previously described, but when you pull the trigger (when in fast-action mode), the hammer flies back to the cocked mode, and from there you go through a normal SA trigger motion. (Its very "stageable.")

Not a market ploy at all. 1) Normal double action, 2) normal single action, or the 3) fast aftion as described above. I've had two -- and still have the .40 version. Nice guns. (Looks and feels a lot like a SIG might, were it made by S&W.)

cratz2
April 5, 2004, 01:46 AM
The Para LDA does not have a second strike capability...

However you want to word it, with the LDA, if the bullet doesn't go bang, you can't just pull the trigger again, the slide must be pulled back about a half inch or so.

I checked out one of those Daewoos a while back... It felt pretty good, but I passed. I don't know... I just wouldn't feel comfortable getting one. Is there any customer service at all if something goes wrong? Are they currently imported?

Walt Sherrill
April 5, 2004, 07:46 AM
Service seems to be very seldom needed with these guns.

In years of reading about them, I've seen only one problem mentioned -- and that was a need for a pin of some sort -- and the owner couldn't find one when he needed it. That was fixed by having a machine shop fabricate a part. (I would think that obscure springs, like trigger springs, might be a bigger issue.)

Numrich has parts for most needs, and one of the major gun makers (I can't remember if its Kimber or Para Ordnance) is now the importer. Parts and service should not be an issue, going forward.

I've had two for several years, but haven't shot them as much as I should to really test their durability. I traded the 9mm away, recently, as it was simply not being shot -- I liked the .40 version better. (I'm mostly a 9mm shooter, and have bunches of CZs and a Glock 34, so the 9mm DaeWoo had too much competition.)

cratz2
April 5, 2004, 02:26 PM
What are the Daewoos going for these days? The one I saw was on consignment and the price was $400 which included 10% for the shop so the guy would actually be getting $350-ish. If the gun was closer to $300 or maybe even $275, I would have given it more consideration but $400 is more than a CZ... edging up to a SIG Pro, used Glock or a new Springfield MilSpec and those are, well... I guess I'd just have more faith at grabing one of those.

I wonder why other companies haven't embraced a similar idea. I think something like a PCR or P01 with such an initial DA trigger would be SWEETTTT!!!

MikeB
April 5, 2004, 04:00 PM
I don't remember what I paid for mine, it was around $300 if I recall correctly. It's a neat system, and it does seem to work well. I like to shoot the Daewoo, but would not carry it, too bulky for me. I have also heard that there is a BHP that has a similiar system.

Walt Sherrill
April 5, 2004, 05:56 PM
Century Arms sells several models for around $260 -- that's dealer price. They warrantye the guns they sell, but don't carry parts or supplies (except some extra mags.)

$350 is probably a good price, if you don't have to pay shipping or transfer fees. In terms of value, I'd put it right there with a Ruger P-95 and CZ-75. The DP-51 I had was at least as accurate as my CZ-75B Mil, but I found the CZ pointed a little better for me, and had a smoother trigger.

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