Got my first suppressor, what next?


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Olympus
April 18, 2014, 05:05 PM
I just received my tax stamp for my first suppressor. I got a Tactical Solutions Axiom that can be used with 17, 22lr, 22 mag, and FN 5.7.

My question is what do I go for next? I already have a trust set up. I'm thinking about two options. Option one would be to purchase a FN PS90 and have it converted to an SBR. It would be added to the trust and then I could use the suppressor I already have for a PS90 sbr. Option 2 is to build an AR as a SBR and buy another suppressor for 5.56. Then I'd have a sbr AND another suppressor to apply for and put in the trust. I think both options will be similar in price.

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horsemen61
April 18, 2014, 05:15 PM
For me I would go the ar route why because I have no use for the 5.7 seven round I just don't care for it but since you already have a suppressor for it that might be the way to go

pjeski
April 18, 2014, 05:55 PM
More suppressors.

BigBoyToyz
April 18, 2014, 06:15 PM
"Got my first suppressor, what next?"

Shoot it.

-Someone had to say it lol

Olympus
April 18, 2014, 06:22 PM
"Got my first suppressor, what next?"

Shoot it.

-Someone had to say it lol

To be completely honest, they told me to expect it by June, so I done even have a gun to try it on. I thought I would have enough time to save up for a threaded 22/45 or something before it got here.

Telekinesis
April 18, 2014, 06:25 PM
I would personally go with a 9mm full sized suppressor as your next NFA item. I find I use my pistol cans much more than my rifle cans, and a good 9mm can will be very quiet.

Of your two options I would go with making an AR SBR and can. I'd recommend .300 Blk for short barrel and subsonic suppressed fun because .223 supers still aren't that quiet even with a can. Also there are several 9mm cans that are rated to take .300 Blk supers, so you could suppress 9mm pistols and your SBR with just one can (and one tax stamp/one wait).

Olympus
April 18, 2014, 06:44 PM
I would personally go with a 9mm full sized suppressor as your next NFA item. I find I use my pistol cans much more than my rifle cans, and a good 9mm can will be very quiet.

Of your two options I would go with making an AR SBR and can. I'd recommend .300 Blk for short barrel and subsonic suppressed fun because .223 supers still aren't that quiet even with a can. Also there are several 9mm cans that are rated to take .300 Blk supers, so you could suppress 9mm pistols and your SBR with just one can (and one tax stamp/one wait).

Yes, I was thinking 300 BLK. So you're saying certain suppressors for 300 will work for 9mm also? That's even better if I can multiple use from one supp. That's what drew me to the Axiom.

wally
April 18, 2014, 06:52 PM
So you're saying certain suppressors for 300 will work for 9mm also?

Just be aware of the important distinction between .300 Blk sub-sonic loads (basically .30 caliber .40S&W class pistol loads -- 180-220gr bullets at 800-1000 fps) vs. the supersonic 122gr 7.62x39 class rifle loads. Big difference in the suppressor requirements.

Telekinesis
April 18, 2014, 07:27 PM
So you're saying certain suppressors for 300 will work for 9mm also?

Sort of. 9mm is larger than .30 cal, so a .30 cal rifle suppressor won't work for 9mm pistols. However certain 9mm suppressors will work for .300 Blk.

As Wally mentioned, there is a big difference in pressure between .300 Blk subs and supers. Make sure you know what your can is rated for before you use it.

Hyrulejedi86
April 18, 2014, 11:39 PM
My Vote is going to be for a SilencerCo/SWR Octane 9. I just got mine and I love it so far. It is rated for 300 blackout SUBSONIC only. It will not be as quiet as say a 308 caliber rifle silencer shooting 300 blackout through it but it will work and is rated for it. Plus you can disassemble it for cleaning meaning you can shoot 22lr and lead through it without worrying. Incase it's your thing you can even shoot 357 mag through it in say a handirifle or maybe a lever action. Ohio is in the process of legalizing hunting with suppressors and just legalize pistol caliber rifle hunting. I plan on getting a Marlin 1894C in 357 mag, thread it and use it to hunt with my Octane 9.

Gtscotty
April 19, 2014, 04:38 PM
I got a sparrow for my first suppressor, and now I'm about to put in the paperwork for a .30 cal suppressor next. That would be my vote because then you are covered for most common rifle rounds and 300 blk. If you're going for pure versatility, the Liberty Mystic has an awesomely long list of compatible calibers.

Theohazard
April 19, 2014, 07:01 PM
It will not be as quiet as say a 308 caliber rifle silencer shooting 300 blackout through it but it will work and is rated for it.
9mm pistol cans tend to be quieter with subsonic 300 Blackout than .308 cans. This is because subsonic 300 Blackout has basically the same velocity and pressure as a pistol caliber, and that's what a pistol can is designed for. But .308 cans are designed for high-pressure rifle rounds, so often they're not optimized for subsonic ammo. That's not to say a .308 can isn't quiet with subsonic 300 Blackout, but often a 9mm can will be quieter.

I have both an SDN-6 and an Octane 9. The Octane 9 is quieter with subsonic 300 Blackout than the SDN-6, even though the SDN-6 is a .308 can that's optimized for 300 Blackout.

And I definitely agree that he should get an Octane 9. It's the best pistol silencer on the market right now.

A526051
April 19, 2014, 07:39 PM
If you are looking for a multi caliber suppressor, I'll vote for the SWR Octane 45. I have one, and can use it on .45, 9mm. 22lr, and 300 AAC (subsonic). Just buy the required boosters, (not NFA regulated) and you are good to go. It's way too big for a 22lr can, looks funny, but it will work.

Theohazard
April 21, 2014, 03:44 AM
If you are looking for a multi caliber suppressor, I'll vote for the SWR Octane 45.
Good point. I recommended the Octane 9 because the OP mentioned 9mm cans and also because I have one. But if you're looking to be able to suppress almost every handgun caliber out there, I'd definitely go with the Octane 45.

Akita1
April 23, 2014, 07:42 PM
AAC Ti-Rant. I shoot it on my .45s & 9mms. Lone Wolf makes great barrels for many handguns and the suppressor has adapters for different thread pitches. I have Gemtech Alpine for .22 and it sounds like a pellet gun with .22 LR. Haven't tried it on my .22 mag yet but thinking it's a bit counterproductive given the crack.

Echo Theohazard bove. I've only shot cans with subs or pistol calibers. I've tried them on my .223 and 6.8 and while they mitigate the rifle boom, the sound barrier crack is what it is (re: the .22 mag comment above). I use AAC SDN for rifles; it's made for 7.62 so good for 30 caliber, 6.8, .223. Plus AAC make a flash hider and/or compensator upon which you can simply screw the SDN. I put one each of these on all my ARs so can use one can for multipurpose. You get the idea.

giggitygiggity
April 27, 2014, 12:19 AM
Keep buying suppressors! That's my plan. The tax stamp sucks, but the wait is by far the worst part. You have to play about a year in advance. They're definitely worth the wait!

Arizona_Mike
April 28, 2014, 03:10 PM
More suppressors.
Agreed.

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Mike

Olympus
May 4, 2014, 12:55 PM
Here's my next question. Do I need an ultrasonic cleaner now? I took my Axiom apart and it is CAKED with lead and crap. It's not coming off with Gun Scrubber. What should I do?

wally
May 4, 2014, 01:41 PM
It's not coming off with Gun Scrubber. What should I do?

Soak it overnight in penetrating oil, I've used Kroil, and more recently Marvel Mystry Oil which is much cheaper.

You don't want to use an ultrasonic cleaner on any aluminum parts.

Don't obsess about the carbon, just scrape or pry off any chunks of lead that might break off later and act to make a baffle strike.

Olympus
May 4, 2014, 09:10 PM
I wouldn't be using it for aluminum. My Axiom is stainless and titanium.

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